PurSleep Product Safety

MrSandman · Post by **MrSandman** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:37 am

Ok I have a reef tank (fish tank with reef rock and corals and fish) and I sometimes lubricate certain things with silicon oil. Should I be concerned that my fish with come down with this pneumonia if they happen to inhale some silicon oil?

I also have some essential oil of Vanilla plug-ins and am curious if this is why my corals aren't doing so well.

StillAnotherGuest · Post by **StillAnotherGuest** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:35 am

Just to hit the F5 button, we're talking about the chronic inhalation of artificial (chemically-created) fragrances (cosmetic oils) for aromatherapy (and there is absolutely no basis for that anywhere.)

Thanks for the hanging curve with those links, there, -sws...

SleepGuy wrote:Note that I am NOT talking about artificial perfumes and fragrances--they make me sick. I am talking about natural aromatics (essential oils). There's a huge difference between natural aromatics and artificial smells, like night and day. Very few people have actually experienced authentic, natural aromatics because of their relatively high cost.

[quote="PurSleep "White Paper""]Pur-Sleep, Inc. has also developed a line of various all-natural aromatics made with 100% pure essential oils (such as lime, orange, lavender, sweet marjoram, peppermint, ylang ylang, and others) that have outstanding hedonic value and high acceptance rates.[/quote]
The glowing (pun intended) absence of chemically-generated fragrances again noted.

And that's the syllogism:

Aromatherapy may improve CPAP compliance and (in the case of lavender) improve actual sleep quality.
Essential oils are used to administer aromatherapy.
Now I can squirt Febreeze in the back of the CPAP machine and get the same results.

Although I have to admit, if the endocrine-disrupting phthalates were harmful, you would think that California would have banned their use in toys already.

Ooops.

California Banned Their Use In Toys Already

SAG

StillAnotherGuest · Post by **StillAnotherGuest** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:54 am

-SWS wrote:Does anyone care to render an opinion of phthalates...

Kayla will!

No Phthalates!

The Word is Spreading, Avoid Phthalates! by Kayla Fioravanti (February 04, 2008)

I’ve been preaching about the negative side effects of fragrance oils and phthalates for some time now. But for many people the message is just hitting home today with the release a study in the February edition of Pediatrics.

The study's lead author, Dr. Sheela Sathyanarayana, a University of Washington pediatrician, has finally brought the issue of the dangers of phthalates to the main stream media. The study as been reported all day on the news networks like the Fox News, ABC, and the Washington Post. Even the critics are talking about the study at the PR Newswire.

Phthalates are used in the cosmetic industry as fixatives to hold fragrances. Most fragrance oils on the market contain phthalates in order to insure that the scent will linger on the skin and clothes longer. We are exposed to phthalates everyday. Phthalates are found in most commercial fragrances that are not 100% pure unadulterated essential oils. Your family is exposed to phthalates in: commercial air fresheners, plug-in air fresheners, laundry and household products, baby products, perfumes, cosmetics, shampoos, conditioners, deodorants, shower gels and much more. In order to avoid phthalates you must avoid adding fragrance oils to your products or purchase phthalate-free fragrances.

Some believe we should wait for more studies to come out to determine the exact extent of the dangers of phthalates. I believe consumers have learned their lesson with waiting for more studies to prove the dangers in the case of cigarettes. Why risk waiting for more studies when the only purpose to use phthalates in cosmetics is as a fixative or adhesive for fragrance? Babies don’t need to smell like their lotion, shampoo, diaper ointment or laundry soap all day long, and neither do we. All companies should demand the removal of phthalates from fragrance chemicals or switch to unadulterated essential oils. Despite significant evidence from many studies, Stephanie Kwisnek, a spokeswoman for the Food and Drug Administration, said that the FDA "has no compelling evidence that phthalates pose a safety risk when used in cosmetics. Should new data emerge, we will inform the public as well as the industry." (Associated Press)

Consumers have the power to change the cosmetic industry as proven by the public outcry for paraben-free products, which did transform the industry from the outside in. In the coming months I expect that consumers will become more educated on this subject and demand “phthalate free” products. This will not only change the way consumers read baby product labels, but how they look at all cosmetic, personal care and household product labels. With a peek into the mysterious ingredients hidden behind the term “fragrance oils”, consumers will wonder what other ingredients are going undisclosed. Now is the time to transition your product line to be either “fragrance free” or scented with only 100% pure unadulterated essential oils.

StillAnotherGuest · Post by **StillAnotherGuest** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:03 am

-SWS wrote:Does anyone care to render an opinion of phthalates...

Dr. Sheela Sathyanarayana will!

The Article In Pediatrics

SAG

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:12 am

-SWS wrote:Does anyone care to render an opinion of phthalates (DEHP) used in CPAP equipment? If so, thanks in advance for that as well

O.

StillAnotherGuest · Post by **StillAnotherGuest** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:29 am

-SWS wrote:Does anyone care to render an opinion of phthalates...

Dr. Jane A. Hoppin will!

Maybe It's A Guy Thing

SAG

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:38 am

-SWS wrote:Does anyone care to render an opinion of phthalates (DEHP) used in CPAP equipment? If so, thanks in advance for that as well

Kayla won't
Dr. Sheela Sathyanarayana won't.
Dr. Jane A. Hoppin won't.

O.

StillAnotherGuest · Post by **StillAnotherGuest** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:24 am

ozij wrote:

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-SWS · Post by **-SWS** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:50 am

There may be other readers following this thread besides myself who genuinely want opinions about phthalates. Here are four broad and relevant searches that may help readers formulate their own opinions about phthalates:

1) Google Search Using the Terms "Phthalates" and "CPAP"

2) Google Search Using the Terms "Phthalates" and "Medical Equipment"

3) Google Search Using the Terms "DEHP" and "CPAP"

4) Google Search Using the Terms "DEHP" and "Medical Equipment"

I apologize if it upsets anyone that I asked such a potentially controversial question. So why did I ask the question? Because I think the context of phthalate use may be relevant if not important. If we approve or disapprove of phthalate exposure in our nightly therapy equipment (CPAP masks & tubing), then that context of nightly use may help us formulate our own opinions about whether we approve or disapprove of phthalate use in our nightly fragrances.

I don't think my wanting to know whether phthalates are employed in the various Air Candy fragrances is an unfair question. In my own way of analyzing it's an extremely relevant question.

SAG wrote:Thanks for the hanging curve with those links, there, -sws...

Well, there's curve fitting and there's curve forcing. But when it comes to opinions... that same relationship holds true.

jnk · Post by **jnk** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:49 am

-SWS wrote:There may be other readers following this thread . . .

My attention, for one, is riveted. This stuff is even better than watching sports!

Ozij keeps doing her best to keep the game/thread focused. -SWS's well-placed toss gets called a hanging curve, gets bunted by SAG, and still no runners advance. It's always most fun, I think, when everyone is playing a slightly different game.

I'm glad PurSleep guy is smart enough to understand fully that all press is good press. This thread will do more good than a nationwide giveaway publicized during the World Series, since, in my opinion, the fine sportsmanlike conduct he has demonstrated in these threads buys him a lot of goodwill from us folks up here in the cheap seats. Well played, PurSleep guy! In fact, I may buy some PurSleep on principle now, even if it may have something "cosmetic grade" in it and I'm not buying it for my wife.

Does anyone know what flavor of smelly stuff to put in my car to calm my nerves while I drive the BQE? I'll have to use enough to overcome the smell of spilled stale Starbucks. I don't mind the smell of old coffee, mind you, but now I'm afraid it may only be safe to drink coffee, not smell it!

Sorry if my post is a little off. I got up to get a beer during the seventh-page stretch. (Beer is a little more expensive here at the park, but, like Starbucks, I guess that's how capitalism always works.)

jeff

ps- It's good to see you back out on the mound, -SWS. Keep shaking off signs and pitching 'em right, man, because the way you play the game is truly an art form.

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:59 am

How about the smell of freshly coffee, Jeff? A spoonful or so of freshly ground in a opne container?

(My coffee machine broke.... and I miss the good coffee so much I try telling myself its OK to buy a new one, since maybe it now or never cosidering where world economy is going....<sigh>.)

Careful with the peanuts there!

O.

jnk · Post by **jnk** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:14 am

ozij wrote:How about the smell of freshly coffee, Jeff? A spoonful or so of freshly ground in a opne container?

(My coffee machine broke.... and I miss the good coffee so much I try telling myself its OK to buy a new one, since maybe it now or never cosidering where world economy is going....<sigh>.)

Careful with the peanuts there!

O.

Any studies that show how far from the intake I should place the oily grounds?

Last week was the first time I wished I had something smelly to place near my machine, since I found myself in a hotel room with new carpet, apparently only recently made a no-smoking room. For me anyway, the smell of stale smoke mixed with carpet glue does not make for a good night's sleep. My numbers went haywire. The smell still seemed to linger in my machine after washing my hose and mask and changing the filter. A drop or two of lavender bubble-gum something-or-other sure would have come in handy.

jeff

tattooyu · Post by **tattooyu** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:40 pm

I'm not sure if there is a way, but I couldn't find how to search within a thread. I know phpBB can do that.

Anyway, I have a call into a ResMed customer service agent who was VERY nice and is willing to help me find out if their tubing contains phthalates or DHEP. She will call me back soon hopefully.

tattooyu · Post by **tattooyu** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:58 pm

Here is website that talks about PVC and DHEP alternatives. There is a link on the page below to a PDF that lists alternative, phthalate-free medical devices, including one for sleep apnea tubing (made by Bivona/Smiths-Medical).

Health Care Without Harm - PVC | Phthalates/DEHP:

PDF File: List of PVC-free Alternative Medical Devices

UPDATE: it turns out that Boniva makes sleep apnea tubing for tracheostomy patients. However, I have an e-mail out to a sales rep. from that company to see if they manufacture any environmentally friendly tubing for regular apnea patients.

tattooyu · Post by **tattooyu** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:09 pm

MORE UPDATES: the rep from ResMed called back and informed me that their plastics are DHEP (phthalate) free! Their customer service was amazing! She actually apologized for not getting back to me sooner (the same day!).

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