PurSleep Product Safety

-SWS wrote:I don't think my wanting to know whether phthalates are employed in the various Air Candy fragrances is an unfair question. In my own way of analyzing it's an extremely relevant question.

Absolutely. And knowing all the other components of "cosmetic oils" as well. But with no need to disclose many/most of them, and unless Kayla can make headway in FDA Globilization Act 09, the recipes for these chemical cocktails will remain a mystery. And keep in mind that the makers of "cosmetic oils" never had any intention of having people use them for direct inhalation or aromatherapy.

BTW, I did call up one of the major players in the industry and ask, "Can cosmetic oils be used for aromatherapy?" While the tone of the lady on the other end of the line was "AYOOYFM?", the answer itself was pretty much no. And that still remains the major point of contention here, namely, "What is the proper way to administer aromatherapy?" If it turns out that any and all fragrances are safe (chemical or natural, long-term or short) and they actually do something, then that should open up all options, including walking down the baking aisle at Winn-Dixie and grabbing one of the food extracts off the shelf for 79 cents. Or a fruit-flavored chapstick (a common practice of anesthetists, as previously noted).

-sws wrote:

SAG wrote:Thanks for the hanging curve with those links, there, -sws...

Well, there's curve fitting and there's curve forcing. But when it comes to opinions... that same relationship holds true.

jnk wrote:-SWS's well-placed toss gets called a hanging curve, gets bunted by SAG, and still no runners advance.

I think you guys should leave the sports metaphors and clever retorts to me.

SAG

-SWS wrote:I think you guys should leave the sports metaphors and clever retorts to me.

Yeah, I intentionally curved that sports metaphor right into a math metaphor. I did that because sports metaphors leave some people out in right field.

jnk wrote:

ozij wrote:How about the smell of freshly coffee, Jeff? A spoonful or so of freshly ground in a opne container?

(My coffee machine broke.... and I miss the good coffee so much I try telling myself its OK to buy a new one, since maybe it now or never cosidering where world economy is going....<sigh>.)

Careful with the peanuts there!

O.

Any studies that show how far from the intake I should place the oily grounds?

Jeff, welcome back in town. Still chuckling at those comments between you and Ozij. And Ozij, we're the same way about coffee: love the smell and taste of freshly ground coffee. You probably show far greater restraint and rationality than we might under the circumstances. By now we would probably be in the car convincing ourselves that freshly ground and brewed coffee is one of life's indispensable liquid food items---and not a frilly luxury by any stretch---as we drove to the kitchen appliance superstore.

tattooyu wrote:Here is website that talks about PVC and DHEP alternatives. There is a link on the page below to a PDF that lists alternative, phthalate-free medical devices, including one for sleep apnea tubing (made by Bivona/Smiths-Medical).

Health Care Without Harm - PVC | Phthalates/DEHP:

PDF File: List of PVC-free Alternative Medical Devices

UPDATE: it turns out that Boniva makes sleep apnea tubing for tracheostomy patients. However, I have an e-mail out to a sales rep. from that company to see if they manufacture any environmentally friendly tubing for regular apnea patients.

Hey, thanks, Kenny. I think that information stands to be extremely helpful to many people who would genuinely like to factor details like that into their health decisions. And welcome to the board!

Browser wrote:Ok I have a reef tank (fish tank with reef rock and corals and fish) and I sometimes lubricate certain things with silicon oil. Should I be concerned that my fish with come down with this pneumonia if they happen to inhale some silicon oil?

I also have some essential oil of Vanilla plug-ins and am curious if this is why my corals aren't doing so well.

I enjoyed that, Browser. Comic relief is just that at times.

But as a general rule pets kept submerged in water are at risk of aspiration pneumonia, or some other problem I can't think of right now. Oh yeah... drowning. So be careful!!

-SWS wrote:

SAG wrote:I think you guys should leave the sports metaphors and clever retorts to me.

Yeah, I intentionally curved that sports metaphor right into a math metaphor. I did that because sports metaphors leave some people out in right field.

OK, then, let me give you a few "tips" to help you out when delivering those one-liners, cause right now, you seem to be "overthrowing" a bit, which tends to land the pitch "in the dirt".

First, cut way back on delivery time. I like to use a 6/4 slashing to a 5/4 or 4/4 cadence in my one-liners. Just set it up, and then BANG! Hit the punch line. Continuing the baseball analogy, if there's "men on base", you have to "pitch from the stretch". Going into a fancy "windup" will only allow the "runners to advance".

And you really have to lose that mathematics theme. I mean, if you start out your joke with "Pythagoras and Archimedes walked into a bar", it's pretty much a given that no matter what the parrot says, it's not going to be funny.

Maintaining laser-sharp focus, there's True Aromatherapy, for which there is plenty of available Safety Guidance around, as well as a history of 3000 years utilization, and "inhalation of arbitrary chemicals", for which there is no information about period.

Even the other poster continually quotes Tisserand for Safety of Essential Oils. BTW, here's his (Tisserand"s) shoppe, show me where he sells Essence of Bubble Gum or promotes cosmetic oils:

Tisserand Aromatherapy

Also his phone number, but somebody else call this time, I already know what the answer is.

SAG

SAG wrote:And you really have to lose that mathematics theme. I mean, if you start out your joke with "Pythagoras and Archimedes walked into a bar", it's pretty much a given that no matter what the parrot says, it's not going to be funny.

But what if the parrot doesn't say anything at all? What if the rough-and-tumble bartender declares his smoke-filled tavern to be calculator free? So the parrot reaches in his pocket for a slide rule---only to whack his two friends on the head as a not-so-subtle warning to keep their calculators out of sight. I'm thinking we have the Three Stooges recast with that bossy little parrot as Moe...

Glad to see you are back -SWS. I just changed my name out of boredom and because it sounded cool for a sleep related forum. So you aren't confused. Hope you are feeling well.

tattooyu wrote:MORE UPDATES: the rep from ResMed called back and informed me that their plastics are DHEP (phthalate) free! Their customer service was amazing! She actually apologized for not getting back to me sooner (the same day!).

Does anyone know if the M-series is "free", especially the humidifier tank? I ask because this machine has the most odor out of four I have used the Sandman Auto,Intellipap Auto,S8 II Auto,M-series Auto.

Hello there, Browser, er, Mr.Sandman, er...
Nice to have you tell us you've done it - I'm serious.
Would you care to tell us how you do that?
O.
P.S. I'm glad you like your machines so much!

ozij wrote:Hello there, Browser, er, Mr.Sandman, er...
Nice to have you tell us you've done it - I'm serious.
Would you care to tell us how you do that?
O.
P.S. I'm glad you like your machines so much!

It is not a conspiracy - the name change that is...

Ancient Chinese Secret

Do you want to know how to change your name because you want to change your name or does it just bother you that I can change my name and you haven't figured out how to do it Hmmmm.

Just playing with ya O .

I didn't think anyone here could change username without administrative privileges or hacking. I thought on phpBB message boards where that user function is allowed, that the change is typically a matter of getting into User Control Panel, then Edit Account Settings, and then simply changing the username field there.

But I can see on this message board our username field is hardcoded to restrict username changes. So put me down as being puzzled, Mike/MTH712/blowfish/browser/Mr. Sandman/et al.

Just how did you change your username on this message board? I didn't think the ancient Chinese used phpBB.

Maybe my making my credit-card number my password here wasn't such a good idea. I'll be right back . . .

Mike = My name

MTH712 = My original user name

Signed up to sell on cpapauction as MTH712

Posted some stuff on cpaptalk I am not real proud of and didn't want it to hurt my ability to sell so I decided to change my cpapauction name

Changed cpapauction name to blowfish in hopes it would unlink my cpapauction account from my cpaptalk account - didn't work and when I changed my cpapauction name to blowfish it also changed my cpaptalk name to blowfish - duh

So then I deleted every post I ever made as MTH712(now blowfish)(a real PITA) so if someone clicked on my linked cpaptalk account in cpapauction they wouldn't read all the garbage - good and/or bad that was posted

I then waited a month or so and came back as a guest to discuss variable breathing and we had a good discussion going and after being asked to sign up I thought what the heck I will start out fresh

I signed up as Browser which was just a name that I came up with real quick. Little did I know that any post where I posted in the past as guest it would now show guest then blowfish then browser and that Jules would see this and begin to write other members to rat me out. I was looking for a fresh start.

I confessed all my sins in a post and asked for a fresh start - some gave it some didn't

So today I was bored and never cared for the Browser name so I decided to change it to something maybe more fitting

So this should tell you all you need to know...

JNK - I wish I knew enough to hack something but I do not... Not at all.

P.S. - I wonder if I should not just cease to post here...

C'mon, MrSandman, that last line of selfpity realy doesn't fit you! Guess you really do care about being here.

Welcome in your non-temporary chosen name - "Browser" always did sound slightly temporary and non-involved to me...

O.

MrSandman wrote:I wonder if I should not just cease to post here...

Well, that's up to you. Nobody's asking or even insinuating that. But when you surprise people with those ancient Chinese peek-a-boo guessing games, don't pretend surprised reactions were out of the realm of your own considerations. Not for a smart guy like you.

And let's try not to pretend that you're this message board's downtrodden social victim, either.

You're okay posting here in my opinion... even if you like to relieve boredom with entertaining little identity games.

MrSandman wrote:JNK - I wish I knew enough to hack something but I do not... Not at all.

P.S. - I wonder if I should not just cease to post here...

I like having you around, myself. (And if one of Johnny's boys did you a favor and asked you to keep it quiet, I'm cool with that too.)
I find it amusing you got bored, because you certainly never let things get boring around here!

jeff

-SWS wrote:

MrSandman wrote:I wonder if I should not just cease to post here...

Well, that's up to you. Nobody's asking or even insinuating that. But when you surprise people with those ancient Chinese peek-a-boo guessing games, don't pretend surprised reactions were out of the realm of your own considerations. Not for a smart guy like you. I am not so smart and not near as smart as you or SAG or several others. I am a social dumbarse anyway but yes I liked feeling like I knew something someone else didn't even if for a moment.

And let's try not to pretend that you're this message board's downtrodden social victim, either. I am a little slow sometimes and do not get this line? Are you suggesting I am looking for pity by playing the victim card?

You're okay posting here in my opinion... even if you like to relieve boredom with entertaining little identity games.

I went to great lengths to explain that it is not an identity game