COVID 19, CPAP, Ventilator MEGA THREAD...everything go here please

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Post by Midwest_non_sleeper » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:09 am

DreamDiver wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:49 am
zonker wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:37 am
palerider wrote:
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And then there's other things to watch out for, if you love someone elderly:

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/senior ... ctors-say/
from the article-

"Instead, seniors may seem “off” — not acting like themselves ― early on after being infected by the coronavirus. They may sleep more than usual or stop eating. They may seem unusually apathetic or confused, losing orientation to their surroundings. They may become dizzy and fall. Sometimes, seniors stop speaking or simply collapse."

in all seriousness, this can also be signs of dementia on up to alzheimer's.
In this case, it can also be due to an embolism. Apparently Covid-19's hidden gem of a symptom is clots that float around until they form an embolism in the lungs, the brain, the intestines... Strokes, etc. It's affecting different age groups in different ways, and in many instances, it seems to come back to the blood clotting.
There may be some new science behind this soon. According to some literature, some prelim testing may be showing that somehow, covid seems to be binding with red blood cells (or otherwise causing), which kicks out the iron molecule to go free radical. This could be doing two things: 1) That free radical iron can cause sepsis, as iron oxidizes, and 2) Without that iron molecule, that red blood cell can no longer bind O2 and transport it. Obviously that could cause a veritable mountain of problems, as oxygen saturation falls through the floor.

I'm not a doctor, so it's possible that I misinterpreted the results.

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Post by Setj » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:30 am

zonker wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:51 pm

as i've said before, me and the "missus" are both introverts, despite my behavior here. it wouldn't bother us to stay in place as long as it would take. but it would drive other people nuts.
Your wife and you are lucky. Social isolation may kill me before COVID-19 does. We are doing weekly quick grocery trips. We haven't been out with friends since March 11. Emotionally, I'm not suited for this.

This is not how I had been enjoying retirement. Before isolation, we had a nice group of neighbors (retired or houseparents) that met at the neighborhood coffee shop every week. We had 25 that participated. We would spend a couple of hours just chatting in tight quarters. Sometimes a few of us would cap the morning off with lunch at a local restaurant.

I was part of another group of mostly men, who met twice weekly in the coffee shop in the center of town. We were a very chummy group. I often would show up at 7 a.m. and stay until 11:30 a.m. What great times we had. Occasionally, some of the local politicians would join us just to rub elbows.

Then, there were our church groups. We often had small, and sometimes big, groups that went out after Sunday morning services for lunch.

All of that ended March 11. I'm a hugger and miss human contact so much.

Today, I will spend a few hours working on the lawn. It's sunny. Maybe I will feel better.

Sorry to take up space whining here.
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Post by jnk... » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:50 am

Setj wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:30 am
take up space whining here.
On the contrary, great post, in my opinion, since no vert is pure intro or pure extro.

Finding other ways to be you and to connect is a challenge, but it is one worth taking up. Technological tools aren't the same as true face-to-face, but quick calls, brief emails, Zoom telegoofing (I hate the word "conference"), or physically mailed brief notes may be worth the trouble (and at first it IS trouble) in the interests of holding things together (externally as a group and internally as sane people) until the gatherings, the hugs, and the hanging out are again prudent. You will find a fun, creative way to do it and from your style are likely doing that with skill already, I'm sure. We all have to. The sanity we save may be more than just our own. Please let us know what works for you so we can all benefit from the tips!

Just don't waste time in Internet forums. I mean, that can't be healthy for anybody, right? :shock: :P :)
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Post by zonker » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:39 am

Setj wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:30 am
zonker wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:51 pm

as i've said before, me and the "missus" are both introverts, despite my behavior here. it wouldn't bother us to stay in place as long as it would take. but it would drive other people nuts.
Your wife and you are lucky. Social isolation may kill me before COVID-19 does. We are doing weekly quick grocery trips. We haven't been out with friends since March 11. Emotionally, I'm not suited for this.

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oh, aye. the first born sprog is an extrovert. she gets that from her bio father.

it's driving her up the wall.

as i've been telling folk, i've been practicing for this moment for 65 years!
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Post by Lifeisabeach » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:15 am

Pugsy wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:44 pm
zonker wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:08 pm
i absolutely concur that we must flatten the curve. but i'm afraid that there are too many folks who want to return to work for this to have the impact that it could. i can only hope that staying at home is enough.
There are ways to safely return to a new normal in terms of going out, going to work, going to play....if...big if...people would just do it with some common sense but I am afraid they won't. Case in point all those "free my state" protesters gathered without masks and sure as hell not 6 ft apart from each other. If they won't do it then...they won't do it when restrictions are lifted.

My sister was in the grocery store the other day and in the dairy products aisle. She saw some woman cough repeatedly...no mask...not even an effort to cover her mouth with her hands or elbow or whatever. There are a lot of really selfish people out there who simply don't care about anyone but themselves.

Here's the really sad part...those who go out and are maybe asymptomatic carriers or maybe just pre symptoms showing up....and they spread the virus and not know it (or god forbid simply don't care)...and an innocent person gets it and carries it to someone who is maybe very fragile health wise...and they die. Not unlike the drunk driver who walks away from the car wreck where everyone else died. The problem people aren't the ones taken out....just the innocents. Gripes my ass to no end.

And I am not advocating long term stay at home stuff either in case anyone is wondering. I am advocating a healthy dose of common sense though...unfortunately common sense is, and always has been, in short supply.
I'd have a lot more sympathy for the protesters if they weren't so flagrantly ignoring all advice on social distancing; sanitizing; and mask wearing in the process. I totally get this is difficult and it can't go on indefinitely. There are real health consequences to stay-at-home orders also and the financial impact itself has its own health consequences as people find themselves unable to afford proper nutrition, health care, and other necessities. People are getting desperate and crime already is on the upswing. I just wish the protestors would do their thing "responsibly". Show that they "get it" and are willing to do their part to get back to business in a safe, responsible manner.

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Post by palerider » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:37 pm

Setj wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:30 am
zonker wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:51 pm

as i've said before, me and the "missus" are both introverts, despite my behavior here. it wouldn't bother us to stay in place as long as it would take. but it would drive other people nuts.
Your wife and you are lucky. Social isolation may kill me before COVID-19 does. We are doing weekly quick grocery trips. We haven't been out with friends since March 11. Emotionally, I'm not suited for this.

This is not how I had been enjoying retirement. Before isolation, we had a nice group of neighbors (retired or houseparents) that met at the neighborhood coffee shop every week. We had 25 that participated. We would spend a couple of hours just chatting in tight quarters. Sometimes a few of us would cap the morning off with lunch at a local restaurant.
zoom is free, as are many other video hours, you can still share time and chat, just bring your own coffee.

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Post by McSleepy » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:22 pm

Midwest_non_sleeper wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:09 am
[...]This could be doing two things: 1) That free radical iron can cause sepsis, as iron oxidizes, and 2) Without that iron molecule, that red blood cell can no longer bind O2 and transport it. Obviously that could cause a veritable mountain of problems, as oxygen saturation falls through the floor.
This is why it may be beneficial to check oxygen saturation levels with the pulse oximeter - you could catch this condition early enough and maybe get some treatment, if not for the disease (COVID-19), then for the effects (hypoxia): https://www.health.com/condition/infect ... nt-hypoxia

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Post by zonker » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:58 pm

palerider wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:37 pm

zoom is free, as are many other video hours, you can still share time and chat, just bring your own coffee.
+1

and it is pretty much the easiest conference app i've seen.

our family just did one friday for my wife's birthday.

the only problem was on the middle kid's end, where their damned internet was acting up. other than that, it was great!
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Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:42 pm

zoom is free
For 40 minutes.

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ChicagoGranny wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:42 pm
zoom is free
For 40 minutes.
Then for another 40. Then for another . . .

And 15 bucks a month is a fairly cheap price for any who host, who become addicted, and who hate interruption.

The trick is learning to use the tool safely and securely with password and waiting area.

I mean, so I hear. From a friend.
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Post by zonker » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:57 pm

jnk... wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:50 pm
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:42 pm
zoom is free
For 40 minutes.
Then for another 40. Then for another . . .

And 15 bucks a month is a fairly cheap price for any who host, who become addicted, and who hate interruption.

The trick is learning to use the tool safely and securely with password and waiting area.

I mean, so I hear. From a friend.

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Post by Midwest_non_sleeper » Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:58 am

jnk... wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:50 pm
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:42 pm
zoom is free
For 40 minutes.
Then for another 40. Then for another . . .

And 15 bucks a month is a fairly cheap price for any who host, who become addicted, and who hate interruption.

The trick is learning to use the tool safely and securely with password and waiting area.

I mean, so I hear. From a friend.
Ironically, I just picked up a case this morning in which someone went into a public Zoom meeting (they were using a waiting room) and shared...illegal material. So now they're going to have me clawing for them. I'm the last person people want to see knocking on the door, because if it's me (as opposed to some other investigator), then some very serious no-no's were happening and their World is very very close to crashing down around their ears.

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Post by jnk... » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:33 pm

Some worlds need crashing.

Would a password have helped prevent the perp from entering?
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Post by jnk... » Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:12 pm

Remind me never to travel again . . .
The motion graphic shows the aftermath of just a single cough on an airplane, with tiny invisible droplets dispersing widely throughout the cabin, potentially infecting a large number of fellow travelers.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/911619/v ... e-airplane
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Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:05 pm

Did anyone notice that the first dog in the U.S. to be diagnosed with coronavirus is a pug?
The dog, Winston, was part of a Duke University study in which a family in Chapel Hill, the McLeans, were tested for the virus.

The mother, the father, the son and the pug tested positive, while the daughter, another dog and a cat tested negative, according to NBC affiliate WRAL of Raleigh.

Dr. Chris Woods, the principal investigator for the Duke study, said Winston may be the first dog in the country to have a confirmed case of the virus.

The mother, Heather McLean, a professor of pediatrics at Duke University School of Medicine, told WRAL that Winston has had mild symptoms.

"Pugs are a little unusual in that they cough and sneeze in a very strange way," she said. "So it almost seems like he was gagging, and there was one day when he didn't want to eat his breakfast, and if you know pugs, you know they love to eat, so that seemed very unusual."

Ben McLean, her son, said it made sense that the dog got the virus because the pet "licks all of our dinner plates and sleeps in my mom's bed."

While Winston may be the first dog in the U.S. known to have tested positive for the virus, a 17-year-old dog in Hong Kong with the coronavirus died last month, although the cause of death was unclear, as the owner refused an autopsy.

Guidelines on pets from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say "there is no evidence that animals play a significant role in spreading the virus that causes COVID-19," but the CDC recommends that you treat them "as you would other human family members."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/animal-new ... g-n1194096