Wasting away again in ketogenic-ville

leptic wrote:Sigh - my wife keeps (gleefully) sending me links like this one...

quite sorry you have the total opposite of a supportive wife.

leptic wrote:Sigh - my wife keeps (gleefully) sending me links like this one...

I recently read about this study on Stephan Guyenet's site ..... http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.ca/

If you want to lose weight your total caloric intake will need to be less than what you burn. 3500 calories = 1 pound. A deficit of 500/day x 7 days will give you 1 pound of weight loss per week. Carbs will increase your blood sugar. So will protein if you eat more than your body needs through glucogenesis. Fats do not affect blood sugar but add 9 calories per gram as opposed to 4 per gram for carbs and protein.

Let's say you are a 200 lb, 6 ft, 55 y/o male who exercises twice a week for about 30 minutes. To maintain your current weight you need 2244 calories per day. To lose 1 pound a week you should eat 1744 calories a day. If you eat 7% carb, 15% protein, and 83% fat you will have a good ketogenic diet. In grams, that amounts to 31g carb, 65g protein, and 161g fat. Keeping your carbs low will mean cutting out all grains, starches, fruits, rice, sugar, oatmeal, cereal, corn, beans, milk, pasta, and potatoes. You can still eat salad greens, zucchini, cauliflower, and some other vegetables. Eat meat, poultry and fish to meet your protein needs and include fats such as olive oil, butter, etc to fill up. Usually you will not feel hungry with this diet after a week or two.

mummmz wrote:If you want to lose weight your total caloric intake will need to be less than what you burn. 3500 calories = 1 pound. A deficit of 500/day x 7 days will give you 1 pound of weight loss per week. Carbs will increase your blood sugar. So will protein if you eat more than your body needs through glucogenesis. Fats do not affect blood sugar but add 9 calories per gram as opposed to 4 per gram for carbs and protein.

so, now, you're a weight loss expert too... and have cut through all the controversy and conflicting information out there...

awesome. perhaps you can solve global warming on your break!

I guess you got hung up on the math in the first paragraph and couldn't even get to the second palerider. lol

Man, this thread got me hungry! I'm going to make some bacon and eggs! It's time for breakfast (almost 3:30pm).

The ketogenic diet is a tough regime to follow.

I'm trying to get my mom to start the diet. She has severe sleep apnea and follows Tim Ferriss's slow-carb protocol which is a start.

I actually wrote an article about the ketogenic diet: http://www.lifehackersguide.com/ketogenic-diet

What do you guys think?

Should I add a section about anecdotal reports of it helping with sleep apnea?

mummmz wrote:If you want to lose weight your total caloric intake will need to be less than what you burn. . . .

Fung debunks that tired, disproven, insulting, and mischaracterizing oversimplification: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F5o0a4p_3U

(Warning: His language is sometimes PG-13)

harrisonalley wrote: The ketogenic diet is a tough regime to follow.

Nah. Actually it is a piece of ca . . . oh, wait, I mean broccoli.

harrisonalley wrote:. . . I actually wrote an article about the ketogenic diet

Was it better than this thread?

harrisonalley wrote: . . . Should I add a section about anecdotal reports of it helping with sleep apnea?

Well, I would think that might depend on whether you actually have read or heard any anecdotal reports of it helping with sleep apnea. Personally, I have not.

palerider wrote:. . . perhaps you can solve global warming on your break . . .

I was gonna get to that later this afternoon, but I haven't quite wrapped up this Middle East peace thing I'm working on right now. Sorry.

jnk... wrote:

mummmz wrote:If you want to lose weight your total caloric intake will need to be less than what you burn. . . .

Fung debunks that tired, disproven, insulting, and mischaracterizing oversimplification: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F5o0a4p_3U

(Warning: His language is sometimes PG-13)

+1

palerider wrote:

leptic wrote:Sigh - my wife keeps (gleefully) sending me links like this one...

quite sorry you have the total opposite of a supportive wife.

I think we vacillate between "Woman + Wimpy" and "Cobra + Mongoose"...



Those toasters hurt by the way...

jnk... wrote:

palerider wrote:. . . perhaps you can solve global warming on your break . . .

I was gonna get to that later this afternoon, but I haven't quite wrapped up this Middle East peace thing I'm working on right now. Sorry.

take your time, I think you're working on something tougher than global warming!

leptic wrote:

palerider wrote:

leptic wrote:Sigh - my wife keeps (gleefully) sending me links like this one...

quite sorry you have the total opposite of a supportive wife.

I think we vacillate between "Woman + Wimpy" and "Cobra + Mongoose"...



Those toasters hurt by the way...

perhaps just put all email from her on autodelete

jnk... wrote:

mummmz wrote:If you want to lose weight your total caloric intake will need to be less than what you burn. . . .

Fung debunks that tired, disproven, insulting, and mischaracterizing oversimplification: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F5o0a4p_3U

(Warning: His language is sometimes PG-13)

I just watched the video and I do agree with it. If you look at my whole post and not just an isolated sentence you can see that I said to eat low carb, moderate protein, and fats. This is exactly what Dr. Fung said. Now once you have proper blood sugar control (which will normalize insulin levels), you still need to think about your total calorie consumption. You cannot expect to eat unlimited bacon, or any other fats, and lose weight.

As a type 2 diabetic I have been able to normalize my blood sugars - I never go above 100 now.