Wasting away again in ketogenic-ville

chunkyfrog wrote:So pretend to eat the g__d__n carbs, spit into your napkin, and wash the napkin in the bathroom sink.
Kids with eating disorders learn to be very sneaky to get around their parents' watchful eyes.
Consider it a game; and your opponent is cheating, so you are obligated to do the same.

or, employ misdirection....

"hey 'honey', is that Brad Pitt outside the window?" *dumps pasta in small trash can in lap*

palerider wrote:

chunkyfrog wrote:So pretend to eat the g__d__n carbs, spit into your napkin, and wash the napkin in the bathroom sink.
Kids with eating disorders learn to be very sneaky to get around their parents' watchful eyes.
Consider it a game; and your opponent is cheating, so you are obligated to do the same.

or, employ misdirection....

"hey 'honey', is that Brad Pitt outside the window?" *dumps pasta in small trash can in lap*

I supposed I'm a bit old to develop bulemia

leptic wrote:

palerider wrote:

chunkyfrog wrote:So pretend to eat the g__d__n carbs, spit into your napkin, and wash the napkin in the bathroom sink.
Kids with eating disorders learn to be very sneaky to get around their parents' watchful eyes.
Consider it a game; and your opponent is cheating, so you are obligated to do the same.

or, employ misdirection....

"hey 'honey', is that Brad Pitt outside the window?" *dumps pasta in small trash can in lap*

I supposed I'm a bit old to develop bulemia

yup, better to not eat it in the first place

It is all different windows on eating disorder.
Too much or too little of a particular item or too much or too little of everything.
The outcomes are different; but are also the same in other ways.
The devastating result of a struggle for control of one's body--with tragic results.
Science has failed us. Business refuses to offer any better solutions.

Sir NoddinOff wrote:

DreamStalker wrote: The only other thing I can say from personal experience is that without your health, nothing else really matters (not love, family, career, knowledge, or wealth of any kind).

Your experience or not, that's way too simplistic... try telling Stephen Hawking that crap

Well maybe I should have simplified it further .... if your dead, what differences does it make? Better?

And Dr. Hawking has been divorced twice ... despite both of his former wives being extremely supportive of him. I'm sure if you asked him how much more fulfilling his life would have been with better health he would say say infinitely more fulfilling.

DreamStalker wrote:

Sir NoddinOff wrote:

DreamStalker wrote: The only other thing I can say from personal experience is that without your health, nothing else really matters (not love, family, career, knowledge, or wealth of any kind).

Your experience or not, that's way too simplistic... try telling Stephen Hawking that crap

Well maybe I should have simplified it further .... if your dead, what differences does it make? Better?

And Dr. Hawking has been divorced twice ... despite both of his former wives being extremely supportive of him. I'm sure if you asked him how much more fulfilling his life would have been with better health he would say say infinitely more fulfilling.

I would tend to agree that Prof. Hawking must devote a great deal of energy to the maintenance of his apparently fragile health, and that any spouse of his has to know what they are signing up for (which is unlikely to be a walk in the park).

Not sure how much Hawking's situation relates to mine though...

I think there are really two separate questions:

• is it worth jeopardizing your health for something?
• is it necessary to maintain your health to deal with challenges?

I think the answer to the first question depends on personal decisions regarding the pursuit in question, while I would be more inclined to say that the answer to the second question is almost always YES.

Update:

So I was travelling Monday and didn't get the chance to check my blood ketones at the usual time. On Tuesday (two days after my whole-wheat pasta meal) I checked late afternoon and they were at 0.7 mmol/L. This is lower than they've been, but not back to my initial values (0.2 mmol/L).

I felt kind of crappy after eating the pasta (lethargic) but that could have been other things... I realize this might sound a bit obsessive but I was curious as to what the pasta might do to my ketones.

looking for my lost shaker of magnesium citrate ...