What the Hell?

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by nanwilson » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:57 am

49er... you quoted her again.[/quote]

A big fat sigh. Of course, you focused on my mistake and ignored the fact that I tried to make the situation right.

You just refuse to cut me any slack no matter what.

49er[/quote]

And... you did it again, do you not know you can use the delete button on your computer as I just did, to erase parts of something you don't want repeated.
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Re: What the Hell?

Post by queen of darkness » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:47 am

I am sorry if I presented in an usual manner and confused people who are on this forum to offer support.

My purpose was to offer a consumer alert to people who are scripted with a cpap device. The message I wanted to get across, loud and clear, is:

1. "Rent to Own" does NOT mean you can return the device and cancel your rental. You are stuck with it. Signed, sealed, delivered, contract established by U. R. Skrood, Inc.

2. My cpap machine has an SD card and monitoring device attached. If I don't use it, the insurance won't cover it. Does that mean I can return it? NO! It means I get to pay $2,600 out of my own pocket for it.

3. If you are a person who has trouble getting to sleep or sleeping through the night, the cpap will NOT help you.

I am trying to come up with my own creative solutions for my unique problems in regard to my cpap.

I took it to work to explain my difficulties and elicit some help from the computer specialists and technical engineers. I am particularly concerned with the monitoring device and SD card. The engineer suggested I use the cpap for a desk fan. My office is stuffy and much too warm most days. I always have a fan on.

He placed the machine under my desk and snaked the tubing around my lamp. It makes a very nice fan. What's more, I filled the little water tank with tap water and a few drops of eucalyptus oil. This makes a nice vaporizer. I have chronic bronchitis and morning headaches, so this might be very helpful for me.

Another suggestion made, perhaps the cpap is uncomfortable because of the Hannibal Lector headgear and the horrible plastic mask. Maybe, rather than giving up completely on the cpap, I should try it with a surgical mask. I could slice the mask and adhere the tube with a piece of duct tape on each side.

I might try that some night. But not tonight. I am tired of fussing with it. Anyway, I left it at work.

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by Bill44133 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:56 am

queen of darkness wrote:I am sorry if I presented in an usual manner and confused people who are on this forum to offer support.

My purpose was to offer a consumer alert to people who are scripted with a cpap device. The message I wanted to get across, loud and clear, is:

1. "Rent to Own" does NOT mean you can return the device and cancel your rental. You are stuck with it. Signed, sealed, delivered, contract established by U. R. Skrood, Inc.

2. My cpap machine has an SD card and monitoring device attached. If I don't use it, the insurance won't cover it. Does that mean I can return it? NO! It means I get to pay $2,600 out of my own pocket for it.

3. If you are a person who has trouble getting to sleep or sleeping through the night, the cpap will NOT help you.

I am trying to come up with my own creative solutions for my unique problems in regard to my cpap.

I took it to work to explain my difficulties and elicit some help from the computer specialists and technical engineers. I am particularly concerned with the monitoring device and SD card. The engineer suggested I use the cpap for a desk fan. My office is stuffy and much too warm most days. I always have a fan on.

He placed the machine under my desk and snaked the tubing around my lamp. It makes a very nice fan. What's more, I filled the little water tank with tap water and a few drops of eucalyptus oil. This makes a nice vaporizer. I have chronic bronchitis and morning headaches, so this might be very helpful for me.

Another suggestion made, perhaps the cpap is uncomfortable because of the Hannibal Lector headgear and the horrible plastic mask. Maybe, rather than giving up completely on the cpap, I should try it with a surgical mask. I could slice the mask and adhere the tube with a piece of duct tape on each side.

I might try that some night. But not tonight. I am tired of fussing with it. Anyway, I left it at work.
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Re: What the Hell?

Post by Bill44133 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:03 pm

one more thought.. in case you don't understand what is happening to you please take a few minutes and view this video:
http://www.resmed.com/us/multimedia/und ... 40x380.swf

This will put things in perspective for you...

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by Madalot » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:04 pm

queen of darkness wrote:I am sorry if I presented in an usual manner and confused people who are on this forum to offer support.

My purpose was to offer a consumer alert to people who are scripted with a cpap device. The message I wanted to get across, loud and clear, is:

1. "Rent to Own" does NOT mean you can return the device and cancel your rental. You are stuck with it. Signed, sealed, delivered, contract established by U. R. Skrood, Inc.

2. My cpap machine has an SD card and monitoring device attached. If I don't use it, the insurance won't cover it. Does that mean I can return it? NO! It means I get to pay $2,600 out of my own pocket for it.

3. If you are a person who has trouble getting to sleep or sleeping through the night, the cpap will NOT help you.

I am trying to come up with my own creative solutions for my unique problems in regard to my cpap.

I took it to work to explain my difficulties and elicit some help from the computer specialists and technical engineers. I am particularly concerned with the monitoring device and SD card. The engineer suggested I use the cpap for a desk fan. My office is stuffy and much too warm most days. I always have a fan on.

He placed the machine under my desk and snaked the tubing around my lamp. It makes a very nice fan. What's more, I filled the little water tank with tap water and a few drops of eucalyptus oil. This makes a nice vaporizer. I have chronic bronchitis and morning headaches, so this might be very helpful for me.

Another suggestion made, perhaps the cpap is uncomfortable because of the Hannibal Lector headgear and the horrible plastic mask. Maybe, rather than giving up completely on the cpap, I should try it with a surgical mask. I could slice the mask and adhere the tube with a piece of duct tape on each side.

I might try that some night. But not tonight. I am tired of fussing with it. Anyway, I left it at work.
I was "on the fence" over the original post, not sure if it was legitimate or just someone screwing with us. The above post has me off the fence, now thinking very legitimate.

Queen of Darkness, there are a lot of people here that have suffered similar problems. I know for a fact that they would be willing to try to help you - if you want to try again, maybe starting from scratch with a fresh perspective. If you go into it negative (which you certainly have the right to do) it probably won't work for you. But if you dig down deep and try to start over, WITH help from people here, you *might* succeed.

Wouldn't it be worth giving it another try? I promise you that you will have TONS of support and backup from those here that have struggled like you, but kept on.

I hope you will try again and ask for help.

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by BlackSpinner » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:22 pm

queen of darkness wrote:I am sorry if I presented in an usual manner and confused people who are on this forum to offer support.

My purpose was to offer a consumer alert to people who are scripted with a cpap device. The message I wanted to get across, loud and clear, is:

1. "Rent to Own" does NOT mean you can return the device and cancel your rental. You are stuck with it. Signed, sealed, delivered, contract established by U. R. Skrood, Inc.
No not true. You will be asked to sign a piece of paper to say you refuses

2. My cpap machine has an SD card and monitoring device attached. If I don't use it, the insurance won't cover it. Does that mean I can return it? NO! It means I get to pay $2,600 out of my own pocket for it.
Wrong again
3. If you are a person who has trouble getting to sleep or sleeping through the night, the cpap will NOT help you.
Wrong again. You got lots of helpfull suggestions and if you would stop running around and squealling like a drama queen who broke the heel of her shoe you would realize that.
I am trying to come up with my own creative solutions for my unique problems in regard to my cpap.
no not very unique. Just loud.
I took it to work to explain my difficulties and elicit some help from the computer specialists and technical engineers. I am particularly concerned with the monitoring device and SD card. The engineer suggested I use the cpap for a desk fan. My office is stuffy and much too warm most days. I always have a fan on.
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Do you always take medical advice from engineers?

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by StuUnderPressure » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:28 pm

If you are really an accountant, then your analytical mind should be able to comprehend this.

Use it so you DO meet the compliance requirements.

Then, YOU own it.

Then, YOU can sell it & maybe even make a little profit on it.

Even just used a little bit, you will NOT get anywhere near what you will pay for it if you do not meet the compliance requriements.

And just how many months do you have to rent it before you own it?

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:29 pm

I think I've got it figured out; the Queen of Dorkness would rather die than sleep with a mask.
Godspeed.

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by 49er » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:33 pm

nanwilson wrote:49er... you quoted her again.
A big fat sigh. Of course, you focused on my mistake and ignored the fact that I tried to make the situation right.

You just refuse to cut me any slack no matter what.

49er[/quote]

And... you did it again, do you not know you can use the delete button on your computer as I just did, to erase parts of something you don't want repeated.
My Dad had a good saying when we would blurt out something that didn't need to be said..... "mouth in motion, mind at stop" Take heed, read what you have written before you hit the submit button.[/quote]

Nan,

I am truly perplexed as I deleted everything and it showed up without the quote initially. Anyway, I think people know what my intention is.

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by Julie » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:36 pm

Do you really think you're the first person here to have insomnia? Or not like the idea of Cpap?

Let us help you - this is what the forum's all about. There are people here so knowledgable about sleep and related problems you wouldn't believe it, but if you don't give yourself and us the chance, you've just qualified for ostrich of the year. You have a great machine, take it home and we'll work with you step by step to help your brain start working properly again, and your body come back to normal (tho' you may have lost track of what that feels like by now).

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by VikingGnome » Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:09 pm

Queen of Darkness wrote:No more advice necessary! I checked ebay and craig's list. People buy and sell cpaps. I can unload this thing and get most of my money back. I guess my biggest complaint is that after realizing that the machine doesn't work for me, I could not return it. My insurance had already paid out and I have to make a copayment.
It may come as big shock that YOU DO NOT OWN your machine and that you will have to give it back to the DME provider. Virtually every insurance company requires completion of 30-day compliance before paying for the machine. If you sell it, you may end up having to Pay many hundreds of dollars back to DME. Check your contract.

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by queen of darkness » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:24 pm

10 months. I have to pay $35 a month for 10 months. The monitoring device comes off in 6 weeks. The supply store will send it back to the insurance company.

I read my contract very carefully (after I signed it). (Duh!) I understand the terms of it. I am not wrong about any of it.

My insurance and compliance requirements might be a little different because I'm a Fed. It would be nice to think most other people don't get screwed over this badly.

And, yes, when I have medical issues and concerns, I always go straight to the engineers for advice, particularly the biochemical specialists. They are just around the corner at the coffee machine. If I want to accomplish something, they always have ideas about how without ever asking why.

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by zorki1c » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:32 pm

If the poster's story is for real (which I doubt) the story proves conclusively that he or she should not be allowed to use a CPAP machine -- or drive a car or operate a lawn mower or own a firearm.

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by RogerSC » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:40 pm

Lost cause, Ms. Darkness's decision was made in the first posting, and has not budged since. I guess it's like rehab, you got to want to do it to make it work.

If this is real, I find it real sad, so it goes.

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Re: What the Hell?

Post by old one again » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:42 pm

Q of D.
Do you realize that your morning headaches are from lack of oxygen when sleeping? Your "smart" remarks may be a sign of fear...please PLEASE try the cpap therapy, it works, even though it takes adjusting to it. I've been dealing with obstructive sleep apnea THERAPY for thirteen years... not pretty, but I'm still alive! No more morning headaches, nor falling asleep at the wheel and everyplace else and sorry that I waiting so long before using cpap.