CPAP Basics - 3

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:23 am

Comfort is just Nature's way of telling you that things are probably all right.
It's not a bad thing, certainly not an indulgence. Comfort and good therapy go together.
You should not have to suffer to be treated.
Discomfort is probably the greatest reason for anybody to drop out.
Insurance companies like to deny "comfort" items because it saves them money.
We often have to pay for what we need ourselves. That's life.
I look at it in perspective: A good mattress may run a thousand dollars or more;
Is that "decadent"? Not if you need it to get a good night's sleep!

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by ArmandXP » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:31 am

NotLazyJustTired wrote:Humidity setting: Is it really just for comfort? I don't think so. As Jim has pointed out, an incorrect setting for humitidy/temp can result in dryness or stuffiness with the net affect of flow limitation. Some of us are particularly prone to flow limitation and RERAs which can disrupt our sleep. So while many may see it just as a comfort setting, for many of us it can (and in my experience does) effect sleep quality.
We keep our house super cool, living here in FL. Temp. in room is usally 68 degree's. So far, my setting for humidity and temp. setting seems fine. I don't have a dry mouth or throat and feel pretty good waking up.
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I never did mind the little things.

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by SleepWellCPAP » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:07 pm

Good deal ArmandXP!

Sounds like you're doing quite well with the settings you have.

Chunkyfrog, that is a great line! "Comfort is Nature's way of telling you that things are probably all right."

With your permission, I would like to use that line in the second edition of my book. Let me know if that's alright with you.

Have a great day!

Jim
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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by Not Fade » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:36 pm

SleepWellCPAP wrote:Good deal ArmandXP!

Sounds like you're doing quite well with the settings you have.

Chunkyfrog, that is a great line! "Comfort is Nature's way of telling you that things are probably all right."

With your permission, I would like to use that line in the second edition of my book. Let me know if that's alright with you.

Have a great day!

Jim

You seem to have come here with the sole purpose and a regimented plan to sell copies of your book. Do the moderators allow that?

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by kteague » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:49 am

Not Fade wrote:
SleepWellCPAP wrote:Good deal ArmandXP!

Sounds like you're doing quite well with the settings you have.

Chunkyfrog, that is a great line! "Comfort is Nature's way of telling you that things are probably all right."

With your permission, I would like to use that line in the second edition of my book. Let me know if that's alright with you.

Have a great day!

Jim
It is allowed as long as the person with something to sell is also contributing to the forum. There are other forum members who sell things in addition to providing their insights on topics. If someone came here with only promotions of their item, I'm guessing they'd get tagged as spam.

You seem to have come here with the sole purpose and a regimented plan to sell copies of your book. Do the moderators allow that?

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by mollete » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:26 am

Not Fade wrote:
SleepWellCPAP wrote: [Buy my crap!!]
You seem to have come here with the sole purpose and a regimented plan to sell copies of your book. Do the moderators allow that?
Well, my opinion is that it takes cojones grandes to come into a forum that offers free advice and sell advice:

Buy My Crap!!

That said, perhaps a resource for CPAP Adherence Guides would not be a bad idea. Some of this stuff is really cheap (and there is "borrow" from Kindle (Prime)):

How to Tolerate CPAP Therapy for Your Sleep Apnea by Robert Dawkins PhD MPH (Jan 31, 2011) - Kindle eBook
$4.99 Kindle Edition

Sleep Well & Feel Great with CPAP, A Definitive Guide by Jim Swearingen and Charles Barnes PhD (Feb 23, 2013) - Kindle eBook
$9.99 Kindle Edition

Without CPAP - How To Treat Sleep Apnea Without Using CPAP by James Berkley (Jun 3, 2012) - Kindle eBook
$2.99 Kindle Edition

The FREE Cure for Sleep Apnea, You Can Stop Using CPAP by Paul Szilvasi (Oct 5, 2012) - Kindle eBook
$2.99 Kindle Purchase

CPAP Confidential! A Personal Guide to Sleep Apnea Therapy by A CPAP User (Mar 5, 2012) - Kindle eBook
$2.99 Kindle Edition

Sleep Apnea Relief: How I Overcame A Sleep Disorder (How To Overcome) by Lee Beattie (Mar 7, 2013) - Kindle eBook
$2.99 Kindle Purchase

CPAP Mask Ebook: Useful Info for CPAP Mask Users by Tony Zadnick and Chris Vasta (Aug 14, 2012) - Kindle eBook
$5.00 Kindle Edition

The Everyperson's CPAP Handbook by Elizabeth S Lowe and Elizabeth Miranda (Mar 30, 2013) - Kindle eBook
$6.99 Kindle Purchase

CPAP Machine Ebook: Useful Info for CPAP Machine Users by Tony Zadnick and Chris Vasta (Aug 14, 2012) - Kindle eBook
$5.00 Kindle Edition

CPAP and Ventilator Secrets by Marion Maz Mason, Steve B Mason and Dr John M Sheerson MA DM FRCP (Aug 13, 2012) - Kindle eBook
$9.99 Kindle Edition

What you should know about sleep apnea. An easy to understand guide. by Dr. Nicholas DiFilippo (Jan 19, 2013) - Kindle eBook
$0.99 Kindle Purchase

This Book Blows: A CPAP Bedside Companion by Mike Moran (Mar 27, 2006) - Kindle eBook
$3.03 Kindle Edition

All you need to know.... about Sleep Apnea by Garth Howell (Mar 10, 2012) - Kindle eBook
$2.99 Kindle Purchase

Sleep Apnea With CPAP Machine and Sleep Study by Linda Meckler (Dec 17, 2010) - Kindle eBook
$5.00 Kindle Edition

Sleeping (1) by les plesko (Dec 5, 2012) - Kindle eBook
$2.99 Kindle Purchase

Sleeping in a Hurricane by Will Stead (Jan 24, 2011) - Kindle eBook
$2.99 Kindle Purchase

A Practical Guide to Sleep Apnea and Using a CPAP Machine by Fred Meyer (Aug 21, 2011) - Kindle eBook
$2.99 Kindle Edition

Snoring Can Kill!!: Discover How Sleep Apnea Can Be Ruining Your Life by Joseph Goldstein, Barbara Coster, Karl Nayeri and Louis LaRose (Mar 30, 2011) - Kindle eBook
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Alternative Sleep Apnea Treatments by Johng (Jan 26, 2012) - Kindle eBook
$8.50 Kindle Edition

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by Todzo » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:14 am

SleepWellCPAP wrote:Hello All and happy Sunday afternoon!

In order to highlight the fundamentals of equipment usage, I started this post a few weeks ago to cover just the basics of what new users need to know.

So far we've discussed initial mask fit, cleanliness, data collection, being educated on your condition and tube control. This weeks question,

What do you believe to be the third most important element of success for a new PAP user?

In my opinion, the third most important factor in optimizing the use of this equipment is humidification. Your upper airway provides moisture for your lungs. If your humidity isn't set right, or you have leakage letting the humidity out, you will not feel much if any benefit from your device.

Please post any and all opinions you have on this subject, it will be very interesting to see what you all think.

Jim
Hi Jim!

I think that humidification tends to cover up unstable breathing that should be treated.

Job three - starting the continuing process of establishing and maintaining proper titration. I think the current half or single night in the lab SOP ignores basic science (must be in the home) and physiology (we do not sleep the same any two nights - weeks - months - seasons - years). I think the work of Pugsy here shows a hint of what I am thinking about.

Have a great week!

Todzo
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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by Wulfman... » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:52 am

mollete wrote:Well, my opinion is that it takes cojones grandes to come into a forum that offers free advice and sell advice:
Or, hang out on a forum (incognito or otherwise) to borrow or steal information or ideas to write one's own book to sell for profit.

I remember at least one other person some years back who seemed to be doing the same thing. I won't mention his name as he seems to be held in high regard by some, but I think you know who I mean, Dave.

I also wonder how many of those people in that list of Kindle ebooks got their information from this and other forums.


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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by Denial Dave » Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:23 pm

its an enterprising world out there.... personally, I have not seen sleepwellCPAP doing any sales pitches other than the tag line for his book or a couple of reference to it in a message.

as long as folks are getting help and information of succeeding in treating OSA, I'm all for it..

it sure as heck isn't coming from sleep doc's or DME's...

Dave not the Dave that was referred to in Wulfman's posting...

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by tooter » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:07 pm

Hmmmm...Jim indicates that he is manager of a DME. He indicates that he helps lots of people and freely exchanges masks. I am in his area and last week I sent him a PM wanting to know where he was so I could stop in.......no response from him.
Fixed pressure at 11

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by SleepWellCPAP » Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:40 pm

Hello All,

Thanks for the posts on the humidication issue and quite the spirited debate regarding my book.

As I have already said, my intention here is not to "come to a free site and sell advice". Over the years I have discovered some things that I think every user of pressure therapy should know. They are very basic things, in order of importance, that have shown a good measure of success. Appealing to everyone's logic, if I told a patient something that didn't work, I'm sure all of you can attest, I would be getting a return call from that patient. I spend all day on the phone already, trust me, extra phone calls is something I do not need. I am however, here to help, as these devices can be very difficult to use, and I enjoy seeing people succeed.

I do work FOR a DME, but I am here on my own accord. I will, and have answered any and all PMs sent. I do try to get to them as quickly as possible.

Having said that, I do hope that I can make some suggestions that make using this equipment easier for some.

Have a great day!

Jim
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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by mollete » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:20 pm

SleepWellCPAP wrote:I do hope that I can make some suggestions that make using this equipment easier for some.
OK, great. Why don't you toss out your 3 best tips
SleepWellCPAP wrote:that have shown a good measure of success
and we'll see what you've got.

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by Todzo » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:33 am

SleepWellCPAP wrote:Hello All,

Thanks for the posts on the humidication issue and quite the spirited debate regarding my book.

As I have already said, my intention here is not to "come to a free site and sell advice". Over the years I have discovered some things that I think every user of pressure therapy should know. They are very basic things, in order of importance, that have shown a good measure of success. Appealing to everyone's logic, if I told a patient something that didn't work, I'm sure all of you can attest, I would be getting a return call from that patient. I spend all day on the phone already, trust me, extra phone calls is something I do not need. I am however, here to help, as these devices can be very difficult to use, and I enjoy seeing people succeed.

I do work FOR a DME, but I am here on my own accord. I will, and have answered any and all PMs sent. I do try to get to them as quickly as possible.

Having said that, I do hope that I can make some suggestions that make using this equipment easier for some.

Have a great day!

Jim
Hi Jim,

I respect someone who pursues the opinions of others.

We do need all the help we can get!

Please carry on in spite of the harassment!

Todzo
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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by 49er » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:23 am

Todzo,

I have to respectfully disagree this is harassment. I think when someone has written a book and is the process of writing another one, it is legitimate to question their motives for appearing on the forum.

This was done previously by the way a few years ago when someone using the screen name of Eric Falcon, MD posted and had written a book, UARS relief. But in my opinion, he dealt with it well and contributed some excellent detailed posts that I bookmarked. He wasn't scant with details that inferred that people needed to buy his book.

Obviously, people will have to make up their own minds regarding the current situation but it isn't as cut and dried as you make it out to be in my opinion.

49er

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