Glue for mask - Marine Sports Mask Seal

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Glue for mask - Marine Sports Mask Seal

Post by Tn-Ken » Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:46 pm

Today I received a tube of Marine Sports Mask Seal that I had ordered. Interestingly the product itself has nothing on it about ingredients but the following is what the web site says:
Marine Sports Mask Seal is specifically designed to improve mask fit without damaging the mask. Solves a variety of fit issues including problems caused by facial hair. A thin layer around the mask skirt can stop the seepage commonly caused by a mustache or beard.

Clear formula, safe for use on silicone, neoprene and PVC masks. Unlike, most greases or waxes it will not deteriorate the mask skirt materials or other equipment it may come in contact with during normal use. Convenient tube for easy application
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I'm going to give it a try tonight just for kicks. At the worst I'm out the money for the nasal pillows on my mask - or perhaps I'll have to wear them tomorrow.

I'll post back tomorrow after the 1st night's experiment.

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Good luck!

Post by sleepyred » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:22 pm

Good luck - can't wait to hear how it works - if it does, I might not sell my cc2 which I'm about to do!

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Post by rustynail » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:34 pm

Please do let us know the results. I'm sure that there are many who could benefit.... thanks

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Post by krousseau » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:57 am

Do let us know how it works could be just the solution for men with facial hair that they want to keep. Was that at Dive Booty?

Don't know if I'm entering this correctly to be an active link but here goes.


shop.divebooty.com/products/ms_miscellaneous-dive_mask_accessories.html[url]


They have quite an assortment of potentially useful straps and other items for inventive Cpappers.
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Post by Tn-Ken » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:19 am

OK - here's the scoop.

As I said in my initial post the "glue" comes in a very small tube. I got mine from 123Scuba.com. It's more like a "glue stick" that you'd get in the office store.

Here's the URL: http://www.island-scuba.com/p-M11339.html

Last evening I put a very thin layer on both the bottom of my nose and the "bellows" of the pillows on the CL2 that I have. Then I put the mask on as normal and proceeded to go to sleep.

Most times in the night I wake up with a little leak where the pillows have pulled off just a bit due to my rolling from side to side but last night nothing moved at all. It worked terrifically. Now, looking at the software I still see leaks but to me, even if it still leaked (somewhere) I was comfortable and never had to push and shove the thing back into place.

Now, I did look a little funny this morning at Lowe's with the pillow still attached but..... seriously, when I went to take off the mask there was an ever so slight tug as the "glue" loosened and just a tiny bit of residue that washed off quite nicely.

I'm delighted with it and am looking forward to seeing how it does over the long haul.

Stay tuned!

Ken

PS - the software indicated leaks during the night but I've no idea what might have caused those and wasn't aware of anything except an occasional "mouth burst".

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:56 pm

Tn-Ken wrote:PS - the software indicated leaks during the night but I've no idea what might have caused those and wasn't aware of anything except an occasional "mouth burst".
Could be actual mouth breathing that you're not aware of. The mouth bursts could wake you up where the mouth breathing might not.

Thanks for the great investigative work on the mask glue. Please report back on night 2 and let us know how it's going. No skin irritation so far?
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Post by Guest » Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:19 pm

does this glue damage your mask?

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Post by ozij » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:41 pm

shop.divebooty.com/products/ms_miscellaneous-dive_mask_accessories.html Here's how you do it: 1, highlight t ... lue source

And you can bold, or resize or paint the name too.
glue source <----- And it will still work as a link....

Use the quote button to see how the commands look.


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Glue - night 2

Post by Tn-Ken » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:11 am

Night 2 was terrific as well. Again - NO leaks at the nose at all and great ability to move around without upsetting the mask.

I sleep with a darling little Bichon Frise who occasionally decides to snuggle in the night and last evening he came up and pushed against the mask which stayed in place even so.

My only leaks seem to be mouth breathing. The leaks are associated with an increase in pressure as my machine responds to airway obstruction. I may have to try the tape thing for the mouth and see what happens.

Taking off the mask in the morning I feel a very slight tug as the nasal pillows separate from the nose but nothing uncomfortable at all.

As to damage to the mask - I can't imagine that. This stuff is designed to be fine with silicone. It's clear and has no smell whatsoever.

I'm just delighted with it and intend to continue. It makes my sleep much better just because I don't wake up dealing with the pillows being pushed off by the pillow. There is no sensation of being "glued" but rather only the sensation of the mask being very stable.

Ok - who's next?

Ken


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Re: Glue - night 2

Post by Sleepless on LI » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:34 am

Tn-Ken wrote:Ok - who's next?

Ken
I am...going to place an order. I did use a pantyhose leg last night and it worked great, but this is much better if it works like you say. I'll let you know. Thanks for the review and being the "guinea pap pig," so to speak.

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Okay. I ordered it, but was amazed at the expensive rate for s/h for such a light item that costs so little, over $7.00. I did it this time but I am going to search around to see if local stores might carry this item or something similar. Did you also pay that s/h rate? If the item costs $5.00, to charge over $7.00 is a bit excessive, especially since it probably doesn't weigh more than an ounce.
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Post by Tn-Ken » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:51 am

Yeah - like you I decided to just DO it and you're right the shipping is ridiculous for such a small item.

I think I'll email them and tell them what's up. Perhaps they'll review their policy if they think a bunch of folks are interested.

Good luck!! - and remember, use just a very small amount. I coated both the nose and the mask with a very thin layer and it works great.

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:00 am

Tn-Ken wrote:Yeah - like you I decided to just DO it and you're right the shipping is ridiculous for such a small item.

I think I'll email them and tell them what's up. Perhaps they'll review their policy if they think a bunch of folks are interested.

Good luck!! - and remember, use just a very small amount. I coated both the nose and the mask with a very thin layer and it works great.

Ken
I am sitting here laughing because, knowing me, I'd probably glop it on and end up using warm water compresses for an hour to pry the nasal pillows off my nares in the morning. Thanks for the tip to make the coat thin.

How long did it take for yours to arrive? Now I'm really anxious to see how it works and would like it to arrive soon (yes, I'm impatient-a true NYer). My son is using the Ultra Mirage full face mask, so I will offer it to him, too, to eliminate the obscene noises it can make, although he's only 19 and he's laughing about those noises. Guess if you don't have a spouse or significant other to be embarassed in front of, it's not that bad. Plus, at 19, you're proud of those noises and do them on purpose .

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Post by Tn-Ken » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:16 am

Sleepless on LI wrote:I am sitting here laughing because, knowing me, I'd probably glop it on and end up using warm water compresses for an hour to pry the nasal pillows off my nares in the morning.
Either that or you'd just wear the mask all day!

I have just talked with the manufacturer and I'm going to put them in touch with cpap.com. I think that this is a huge market for them and it's a terrific product.

We may be on the beginning of a whole new market for them. (Says he from New Market, TN)

I received the product pretty quickly - just a couple of days.

Good luck,
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Post by Sleepless on LI » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:23 am

Ken,

How nice of you to go out of your way for this manufacturer and alert him to the possible business opportunity he may have here. If it works out, they should send you a year's supply of the glue as a "finder's fee.'

I do have one question I should have asked you. What pressure do you have your machine set at because I am wondering if it will work differently with different pressures, although I would imagine that the resistence going under water with a scuba mask on would probably be greater than any pressures we use with our machines. I am on 10 cms., but my son is at 16. I wonder if it will make a difference.

One good thing about my trying it is, you may get two reviews for the money here. I use nasal pillows and he uses a ff mask, one at 10 cms. and one at 16 cms. Hopefully he'll try it, too, and I can report on both since he hasn't joined the forum yet and probably won't (no time to at his age).

Thanks again for your input and bringing this to our attention.

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Post by Tn-Ken » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:30 am

Hey Lori - thanks for the kind comments.

I suspect that there must be some point at which the "glue" unsticks but it's more than what a CPAP would generate (I think).

My Apap is set to run from 10-15 and last evening it got up to 14 and there wasn't any problem at all.

Hmmm... wonder if this stuff would work to keep my lips closed!!

I just called the folks at CPAP.COM and they took a message. If I don't hear from them fairly soon I'll bug them again - or if anyone here knows of a contact there perhaps they could share it with me. The guy that I spoke with didn't seem to be too tuned into what I was saying but then it was very much out of the ordinary.

Let me know how you guys make out.

Ken