Non-Grounded Outlets

[chunkyfrog]

Grounded cases/cords on tools and grounded outlets were used in "man caves"
for DECADES before one company decided to put gfci's on hairdryers.
Finally, grounded outlets were made available for the home --in BATHROOMS and KITCHENS.
Where one commonly finds WATER.
I have long held the belief that electrical safety was being withheld for SEXIST reasons.
Infuriating!

[Robespierre]

The S-9 power supply is double insulated and thus does not require a grounded outlet.

[Uncle_Bob]

The S-9 power supply is double insulated and thus does not require a grounded outlet.

Aye, but does it have fuse?

Electrical arching bothers me somewhat with the two prong outlets. And it is dangerous, especially to aging appliances.
My parents house in the UK was built over 100 years ago, same three prong sockets, with true on/off switches, no codes required for updates since the day the house was built.
Sub standard cheap home construction and the continuous revision of building codes is a hand in your wallet.

[palerider]

The S-9 power supply is double insulated and thus does not require a grounded outlet.

Aye, but does it have fuse?

Electrical arching bothers me somewhat with the two prong outlets. And it is dangerous, especially to aging appliances.
My parents house in the UK was built over 100 years ago, same three prong sockets, with true on/off switches, no codes required for updates since the day the house was built.
Sub standard cheap home construction and the continuous revision of building codes is a hand in your wallet.

is everything you write so fanciful?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_7671

1882 1st Edition
2008 17th Edition Amended 2015 ("Amendment no. 3") - current standard as of April 2015

unchanged for over 100 years, eh?
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-UK-change ... gular-pins

no changes, eh? maybe the builders of that house had a time machine back at the start of the 1900s?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_ ... ated_types

don't accept electrical advice from your weird uncle, kids. he makes it up as he goes.

e: some more fun commentary on brit wiring changes over the years here:
http://gizmodo.com/5391271/giz-explains ... -fing-plug

[Uncle_Bob]

don't accept electrical advice from your weird uncle, kids. he makes it up as he goes.

Your post was a bit harsh, I wasn't trying to offer electrical advice.

[palerider]

don't accept electrical advice from your weird uncle, kids. he makes it up as he goes.

Your post was a bit harsh, I wasn't trying to offer electrical advice.

just incorrect information and fanciful editorial content.

My parents house in the UK was built over 100 years ago, same three prong sockets, with true on/off switches, no codes required for updates since the day the house was built.
Sub standard cheap home construction and the continuous revision of building codes is a hand in your wallet.

[BlackSpinner]

My parents house in the UK was built over 100 years ago, same three prong sockets, with true on/off switches, no codes required for updates since the day the house was built.
Sub standard cheap home construction and the continuous revision of building codes is a hand in your wallet.

The first thing I did when I bought a 100 year old house was to have it rewired. Old wiring is the cause of many house fires. Especially old knob & tube crap that flakes off in your hands. I have renovated a few houses and the first thing you want addressed is old wiring with a few DIY jobs that make you want to cry. There is a valid reason for those building codes and one of them is preventing the entire block from going up in flames.

[LinkC]

It doesn't really matter whether the house has 2 or 3 wire outlets.

The standard S9 power supply has 2. (I believe it's double-insulated, but don't quote me.)

[palerider]

It doesn't really matter whether the house has 2 or 3 wire outlets.

The standard S9 power supply has 2. (I believe it's double-insulated, but don't quote me.)

*bingo* that was my original point

[Wulfman...]

It doesn't really matter whether the house has 2 or 3 wire outlets.

The standard S9 power supply has 2. (I believe it's double-insulated, but don't quote me.)

It's OK. You're right.

Page 26 of the S9 provider manual:

EC 60601-1 - - - - classification Class II (double insulation), Type BF

http://www.mouser.com/pdfDocs/MeanWell_ ... ote_BF.pdf

http://www.601help.com/Basic_Concepts/b__bf_or_cf.html


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[Uncle_Bob]

It doesn't really matter whether the house has 2 or 3 wire outlets.

The standard S9 power supply has 2. (I believe it's double-insulated, but don't quote me.)

*bingo* that was my original point

It DOES matter If you want to protect your machine investment with an inexpensive surge protector which would be nothing more than an extension cord if you did not have a 3 way ground.

[palerider]

It doesn't really matter whether the house has 2 or 3 wire outlets.

The standard S9 power supply has 2. (I believe it's double-insulated, but don't quote me.)

*bingo* that was my original point

It DOES matter If you want to protect your machine investment with an inexpensive surge protector which would be nothing more than an extension cord if you did not have a 3 way ground.

says the ex-spurt on all things electrical

(see earlier in thread)

[Uncle_Bob]

says the ex-spurt on all things electrical

(see earlier in thread)

I don't think many people, other than yourself, are going to be that interested and/or opinionated enough to be going back in the thread as you suggested.

I never claimed to be an expert on all things electrical, I just had an opinion a single topic so take it or leave it. Me being an electrical expert is all in your childish head and you are having trouble letting it go apparently. Maybe you might need some other kind of therapy? It may help you to stop trolling

[rjezuit]

Electro shock therapy?

[Uncle_Bob]

Electro shock therapy?

From a non GFCI protected outlet?