I have been banned from the ASAA Board

nanwilson · Post by **nanwilson** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:30 am

SleepingUgly wrote:
avi123 wrote:From posting at the ASAA it seems to me that posters there have higher education levels. RobySue, for example, during the past years (before 2013), has more posts there.
So are you saying RobySue's "education level" went down when she started posting more on cpaptalk than on ASAA?

Actually I think he's saying that HE posts over there ,...... therefore he has to be smarter than the average bear

msla · Post by **msla** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:50 am

Just do not combine this thread with the one about drooling. I do not want to see what you all come up with.

jnk · Post by **jnk** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:58 am

I think Ed basically works for the manufacturers and is paid to say what they want said. They are for whatever sells the most machines and whatever makes their customers (the DMEs) happy. They work for their customers, the DMEs. My views align with theirs only in the sense that I would like as many machines as possible made and put in the hands of all people who need better sleep.

That said, the manufacturer-DME cartel members are not the best people for deciding what is best for patients beyond making machine available. Medical people and patients themselves, in partnership, are best at truly medical decisions, even as messed up as the entire industry-cluster is at this point, medically speaking. (Although I am not personally a medical person. Or impersonally a medical person, for that matter.)

So my position is that CPAP should be available to anyone who might get better sleep using one, as decided subjectively by the patient based on response to pressurized air. However, anyone continuing to have sleep problems surely needs full involvement of a doc and his/her staff. Not full involvement of a crutch-salesman business and their staff.

Put the DMEs and HST people out of business. Stock the shelves of Wal-Mart with inexpensive, quality CPAP machines. Let response to treatment be the measure of medical necessity. Educate the doctors about sleep disorders, and let sleep labs get involved with the people who can't sleep better with some simple pressure from an OTC machine.

If the public were ever to become the customers of the manufacturers, instead of the DMEs being the true customers of the manufacturers, market forces and medical services (as opposed to DMEs) ought to be able to take it from there.

Until that happens, Ed is stuck working for the ASAA, the ASAA is stuck working for the manufacturers, and the manufacturers are stuck working for their customers the DMEs, who presently head the industry in partnership with the insurance people in the big ugly cartel.

In the meantime, until that mess gets sorted out, I'm glad we have cpaptalk.com, which so far for the present the CPAP cartel has been unable to shut down.

That said, let's all watch one another's backs, shall we?

Cover me. I'm going in for another post at the other board . . .

Sometimes it is just a matter of carrying on as best we can with a thong and a prayer. And that can make it particularly painful for anyone trying to watch MY back, let me tell you.

That's it. I ban me!

Bannings? We don't need no stinking bannings. But if we are, we wear it like a badge anyway, 49er. So good for you, I say. Wear it proudly!!

Stormynights · Post by **Stormynights** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:25 pm

I am embarrassed today to see all the men that have read last nights posts. My apologies for our girls night out. Last night it was fun today it is an embarrassment.

jnk · Post by **jnk** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:40 pm

I guess now we know why some boards ban us.

msla · Post by **msla** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:06 pm

We all need a good laugh from time to time.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:27 pm

I wonder how much a good, hard laugh affects oxygen levels.
It sure feels good!
(got to dig out my pulse-ox)

SleepingUgly · Post by **SleepingUgly** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:42 pm

Stormynights wrote:I am embarrassed today to see all the men that have read last nights posts. My apologies for our girls night out. Last night it was fun today it is an embarrassment.

Sorry to hear that. It has stayed fun for me.

jnk · Post by **jnk** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:46 pm

Laughing is a clear violation of the forum quidelines over there.

And using PM's to link to instructions on how to laugh at the mod squad behind their backs is a capital offense, I understand.

BlackSpinner · Post by **BlackSpinner** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:46 pm

Stormynights wrote:I am embarrassed today to see all the men that have read last nights posts. My apologies for our girls night out. Last night it was fun today it is an embarrassment.

I could make lots of comments about the "morning after the night before" but I will offer you a hug instead.

(and think of how we embarrassed the guys!)

Stormynights · Post by **Stormynights** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:59 pm

Now I think everyone can see why I don't drink. I can get goofy enough sober. I must admit I had lots of fun and hope to have another girls night out again with this crazy bunch. We just need to figure out how to keep the men away.

jnk · Post by **jnk** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:14 pm

Stormynights wrote:. . . how to keep the men away.

Ban us, maybe?

avi123 · Post by **avi123** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:18 pm

SleepingUgly wrote:
avi123 wrote:From posting at the ASAA it seems to me that posters there have higher education levels. RobySue, for example, during the past years (before 2013), has more posts there.
So are you saying RobySue's "education level" went down when she started posting more on cpaptalk than on ASAA?

Reply,

No. I am saying that unlike you, Shmollete, and Pugsy, who often use 4 letter words , RobySue, does not, indicating a higher education level. And most likely you would not "fit" the other website.

SleepingUgly · Post by **SleepingUgly** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:27 pm

avi123 wrote:No I am saying that unlike you, Shmollete, and Pugsy, who often use 4 letter words , RobySue does not, indicating a higher education level. And most likely you would not "fit" the other website.

Oh, Avi, what are we going to do with you?! Your batting average for getting things right is worse than chance! I am happy not to "fit" any profile, including what you imagine highly educated people are like.

Stormynights · Post by **Stormynights** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:31 pm

avi123 wrote:
SleepingUgly wrote:
avi123 wrote:From posting at the ASAA it seems to me that posters there have higher education levels. RobySue, for example, during the past years (before 2013), has more posts there.
So are you saying RobySue's "education level" went down when she started posting more on cpaptalk than on ASAA?

Reply,

No I am saying that unlike you, Shmollete, and Pugsy, who often use 4 letter words , RobySue does not, indicating a higher education level. And most likely you would not "fit" the other website.

Avi my friend, (I really do like your crusty personality) in your response you used 3 four letter words. Sometimes 4 letter words are just called for to complete our thoughts.

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