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OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by Todzo » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:59 pm

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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by oak » Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:51 pm

interesting post. thanks.

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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:05 am

Awesome what the curious mind can do. Sleep labs will NOT be happy.
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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:25 am

Yea. I'm all for getting rid of the sensors. IMO That's why most people hate the sleep tests. I'd be especially cool if they could set up the imaging device in your bedroom, then one could eliminate the whole sleep lab experience.

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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by 123.Shawn T.W. » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:30 am

But ... will it measure brain waves to know if your asleep or not? What stage?

Still seems like it would need to attached toy your head, so the patient could move around, turn over ...
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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:29 am

Just put on something like a Melon EEG headband. Why not?

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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by Todzo » Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:42 pm

123.Shawn T.W. wrote:But ... will it measure brain waves to know if your asleep or not? What stage?

Still seems like it would need to attached toy your head, so the patient could move around, turn over ...
http://www.neurovigil.com/ibrain/
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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:23 pm

Todzo wrote:
123.Shawn T.W. wrote:But ... will it measure brain waves to know if your asleep or not? What stage?

Still seems like it would need to attached toy your head, so the patient could move around, turn over ...
http://www.neurovigil.com/ibrain/
I hope they make a better 'go of it' than Zeo did

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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by RogerSC » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:21 pm

Cool idea, nice patient-oriented paradigm shift. I like it, there's a lot of money in sleep studies that can drive research like this.

Maybe they can figure out a less intrusive way to keep one's airway open than CPAP at some point, too.

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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by 49er » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:10 am

RogerSC wrote:Cool idea, nice patient-oriented paradigm shift. I like it, there's a lot of money in sleep studies that can drive research like this.

Maybe they can figure out a less intrusive way to keep one's airway open than CPAP at some point, too.
That would be nice. Trying a "million" masks to find the right one is really getting old.

The cynical sleep deprived part of me wonders if there will be incentive for this type of research since sleep centers are currently very profitable.

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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by 49er » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:41 am

mollete wrote:
Really keeping ahead of the curve there, Turdzo:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=46457&p=417232&hili ... 00#p417232
Come on Mollete, you're better than that. You don't need to be insulting other forum members.

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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by Todzo » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:49 am

Sir NoddinOff wrote:
Todzo wrote:
123.Shawn T.W. wrote:But ... will it measure brain waves to know if your asleep or not? What stage?

Still seems like it would need to attached toy your head, so the patient could move around, turn over ...
http://www.neurovigil.com/ibrain/
I hope they make a better 'go of it' than Zeo did
Since often only C4-A2 and C3-A1 are used (and some others in the area) I have often thought a head band could be designed looking something like my bluetooth head phones (Go Grove Airband) which would contain and place the pads and have wireless communication back to data gathering unit. The user could be taught to use the band himself during a "sleep testing" class.

There are many many ways to get the information we currently know about to find out what is happening in our sleep. There are many technologies that would add nicely to what we currently have.

However it seems that those who call themselves "medical professionals" have lost their professional demeanor, imagination, and ability to see beyond the dollar signs to get the job done.
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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by mollete » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:53 am

Muffy wrote:In response to your question in re: when sleep labs will move to this technique, since the thermal camera costs $60,000, I would say "Not today".
Well if it's necessary to get a 6000 Series FLIR, with the price now $120,000, won't be today either.

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Re: OT: a-better-way-to-test-for-sleep-apnea

Post by mollete » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:00 am

Turdzo wrote:... have lost their...ability to see beyond the dollar signs to get the job done...
You're right!

As a matter of fact, I just found a Sleep Center that's using this technology, employing Army surplus equipment (and personnel):

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However, they claim their Sleep Efficiency has dropped somewhat.