Which ASV is best? Overall

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by Pugsy » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:13 pm

Secondwind (and any online sellers) will require a prescription for the ASV machine. Actually any xpap machine...because they come with this "RX required" sticker on them.
You can get the RX from any doctor who will write it for you...doesn't have to be a sleep specialist.
So just get your regular doctor to write the order for that model.

The other option is private party like craigslist or forum member and not many forum members have that machine to sell..if they need it they won't part with it.

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by sleepinow » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:24 pm

If I need a prescription then why did I get this message from secondwindcpap?


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The order was just completed. Are they going to call me and ask me for a prescription? IT did not ask for any prescriptions, only when I phoned them

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by Pugsy » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:33 pm

sleepinow wrote:If I need a prescription then why did I get this message from secondwindcpap?
Beats me but hold your breath and cross fingers that you don't get an email requesting one.
They told me I couldn't get a bilevel machine with my cpap/apap script.
I have heard of a few slipping past the defenses...but I didn't. Just my luck.
Let's just say that normally RX is required and if you don't get busted for one...count yourself lucky.

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by sleepinow » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:38 pm

Ah this is not good, I am pretty sure they will email me

Did you purchase your online or by using your phone? And if you did do yours online, did you receive an email requesting a script for your bipap machine

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Min Pressure Support: 3.5
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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by Pugsy » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:53 pm

All my machine purchases have been private party. Craigslist or from a forum member who had what I wanted.

That 950 model is hard to come by for the forum members...Check with STLMark if you end up getting an email from second wind. Sometimes he can find those high end machines.
I don't think mcdover has any. Those are the two forum members I have purchased from.
Grand-PAP might know of one..too.

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by sleepinow » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:59 pm

Will do, thank you very much for your guidance and help

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Min Pressure Support: 3.5
Max EPAP: 25.0
Max Pressure Support: 5.0
Max Pressure: 20.0
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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by n0hardmask » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:12 pm

sleepinow wrote:Thanks

The Bipap that did not treat your centrals, is that the S9 Adapt or was that a previous machine that you no longer use?

Yes, the secondwindcpap was the place where I found these four machines all of which are over 1000$ I have no insurance so this choice is very important to me
Sorry to not get back very promptly, Sleepinow
The machine that didn't fix the centrals is the VPAP -S, or BiPAP only. I bought an ADAPT from Grand-PAP and it's doing the job. FYI, I would say that the ADAPT I have is an AUTO; if it had been non-auto and required all the many numbers that one gets when titrated for ASV during a sleep study, I may have had a very hard time fine tuning the ADAPT.

On the RX, I'm fairly certain Secondwind will require one.. at least for xPAP with a range of pressures. When I bought the BiPAP from Secondwind, they were happy with my RX for xPAP with a range of pressures. Don't quote me on that

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by sleepinow » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:07 pm

Cant I change the pressure settings myself? That is what I have been doing with my apap

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Min Pressure Support: 3.5
Max EPAP: 25.0
Max Pressure Support: 5.0
Max Pressure: 20.0
Flex Setting: Bi-Flex - 3
Backup Rate:Auto
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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by Pugsy » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:31 pm

sleepinow wrote:Cant I change the pressure settings myself? That is what I have been doing with my apap
Well of course you "can" because you already know how but "should" you without your doctors input?
ASV is a whole different animal than a plain apap and a diagnosis of complex sleep apnea or central sleep apnea is not nearly as simple as plain jane vanilla OSA that is easily treated with with cpap/apap machine with no complicating factors.

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by sleepinow » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:44 pm

Yeah you are right. I do think that I will be careful with the settings. I will also look at posts made by people who adjust there pressures just to get an idea of my optimal pressure

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Min EPAP: 13.0 CmH20
Min Pressure Support: 3.5
Max EPAP: 25.0
Max Pressure Support: 5.0
Max Pressure: 20.0
Flex Setting: Bi-Flex - 3
Backup Rate:Auto
Humidification Mode:off
Humidifier Setting:c5

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by Kiralynx » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:58 pm

sleepinow wrote:Respironics BIPAP Auto/SV Advanced with BIFLEX with heated humidifier
As it happens, I have the predecessor of this machine -- I'm coming up on five years on CPAP. (Hard to believe it's been that long!)

The original Encore Viewer (version 1.1?) works just FINE with this machine, although it does have the disadvantage of having a proprietary card, which requires a proprietary card reader.

The card also only holds about a week of detailed data, and so I use a program called MyCPAP to save the data from the card each Sunday, and then reformat the card for use. Takes me about 15 minutes to read the data, print out the week's PDF file, save data, and reformat.

The advantage to the System One machines is that they use the mini-SD cards which can be read on many computers. The disadvantage is that the home-grown software, Sleepyhead, doesn't appear to like ASV machines. (Discuss with Pugsy where to find the software for it.)

But... I can honestly tell you, if all you can manage is the machine above, tracking down cards and readers is possible, and they give really fine therapy.

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by racprops » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:30 am

I got the Respironics DS950HS from secondwind. A new open box with full factory warn.

So far it meets my plans, as unlike ResMed it will show CA as well as OA.

I want to see which was which so I can help with working out my treatment, much to the dislike of my Doctor.

Check out my thread over all of this at:

viewtopic/t87728/Newbe-with-Complex-Apnea.html

I have not seen any problems with Sleepyhead so if someone can fill us in what kind of problems they have had..

Rich

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by patrick_a » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:54 am

Yes, they have to have a Rx on file as will any legit business. Just email a copy over to them... assuming you have one.

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by Pugsy » Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:59 am

racprops wrote:I have not seen any problems with Sleepyhead so if someone can fill us in what kind of problems they have had..
It's hit or miss with SleepyHead and the PR S1 model 950. Some people have great luck and some don't and one of the ones that didn't was a computer/software engineer...we have never been able to figure out why. We did go through all the usual "how to make it work" with the software engineer. Pretty much covered every known possible cause.

So we tell people it may or may not work. Try it but if it doesn't or even if it does and they still want the Respironics software that for sure will work with it...it's around if you know where to look or who to ask where to look.

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Re: Which ASV is best? Overall

Post by sleepinow » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:07 pm

thanks for posting that link to your thread. i found it a nice read

my prescription should be arriving soon just in case secondwindcpap will ask for it

i am hoping that the sleepyhead program will be all that i will need and that it is functioning well. but i will try getting the other program if it is absolutely neccessary

do all asv users take a long time to adjust or is it a select few? i was wondering if there are peopl that have adjusted confortably within a few weeks or days

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Min EPAP: 13.0 CmH20
Min Pressure Support: 3.5
Max EPAP: 25.0
Max Pressure Support: 5.0
Max Pressure: 20.0
Flex Setting: Bi-Flex - 3
Backup Rate:Auto
Humidification Mode:off
Humidifier Setting:c5