Trying Hard Not to Commit Suicide

chunkyfrog wrote:Sometimes bankruptcy works in your FAVOR.

Good point chunkyfrog!

chunkyfrog wrote:Why do you think so many millionaires have done it--more than once?

Zig Ziglar related that millionaires are often very nice people who refused to be put down by adversity (life seems to always have some of that) and helped many others “get what they want”.

chunkyfrog wrote:The thing they don't tell you is that you cannot file bankruptcy again for seven years, and that makes you a much better risk than you were prior to the bankruptcy.
Bankruptcy is another thing the little guy is being LIED to about!

Remember that it is the linebackers of the football team that most often get OSA as they retire. It is likely that our guy is not “little” even though I am.

Have a great week chunkyfrog!

Todzo

khauser wrote:Assume the best in people ... I always try to do this. Have I been taken advantage of? DEFINITELY! It doesn't change my outlook because I don't want the bad behavior of person A to change how I look at person B. That's my choice. I wish it was everyone's.

kteague expressed it beautifully in another thread yesterday:

If I must err, may I err on the side of kindness. It helps me sleep at night. I'd rather extend more kindness than one deserves than misjudge and withhold kindness from a suffering soul.

FYI: Depending on the state, an eviction can take between 90 and 120 days to happen from when paperwork gets filed by the property owner.

There may be protections available if the person is receiving state aid; your local Access Agency might be able to help with information. It might be worth applying for food stamps or some other kind of aid to be officially "in the system" and eligible for some form of protection from eviction.

The words in the title of the post are a little difficult to get past. Hopefully they are chosen for emphasis only.

Regarding not feeling benefit from the CPAP, even after perfect compliance, is unfortunately quite common. Pressure therapy devices will keep your airway open however, they don't by themselves guarantee a good or recuperative night's rest. The stress you say you're under, is quite likely the cause of feeling unrested. Defined very simply, my guess is that your cortisol levels are disrupting or shortening your stage 3 or REM periods of sleep. There's an old saying, "check your troubles at the door", and it's a great one for a bar, but an even better one for the bedroom. Though it sounds difficult, I would stick with your CPAP and try to reduce stress as much as possible.

Good luck!

SleepWellCPAP wrote:The words in the title of the post are a little difficult to get past. Hopefully they are chosen for emphasis only.

I know the feeling that BoxedIn has expressed that he is experiencing. It is quite real. Yup, that is the feeling.

SleepWellCPAP wrote:Regarding not feeling benefit from the CPAP, even after perfect compliance, is unfortunately quite common. Pressure therapy devices will keep your airway open however, they don't by themselves guarantee a good or recuperative night's rest.

I do believe it would very much help if the medical community would wake up to the need to constantly monitor therapy and deal with unstable breathing as well as AHI!!

SleepWellCPAP wrote:The stress you say you're under, is quite likely the cause of feeling unrested. Defined very simply, my guess is that your cortisol levels are disrupting or shortening your stage 3 or REM periods of sleep. There's an old saying, "check your troubles at the door", and it's a great one for a bar, but an even better one for the bedroom. Though it sounds difficult, I would stick with your CPAP and try to reduce stress as much as possible.

Good luck!

My experience is that stress in my own life can reduce the point at which my CPAP pressure causes unstable breathing to less than would keep my airway open. Unstable breathing fractures sleep and so you are unrested. The answer for me is to use EERS[1] during those times. The answer for people in the future may well be a much better CPAP machine[2].

I think that anyone who has low AHI but is still unrested should talk with their doctor about both.


[1]: Gilmartin G, McGeehan B, Vigneault K, Daly RW, Manento M, Weiss JW, Thomas RJ.
Treatment of positive airway pressure treatment-associated respiratory instability with enhanced expiratory rebreathing space (EERS).
Source: J Clin Sleep Med. 2010 Dec 15;6(6):529-38. Division of Pulmonary, Critical Care and Sleep Medicine, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Boston, MA, USA.
Link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21206741

[2]: Dynamic CO2 therapy in periodic breathing: a modeling study to determine optimal timing and dosage regimes
Yoseph Mebrate, Keith Willson, Charlotte H. Manisty, Resham Baruah, Jamil Mayet, Alun D. Hughes, Kim H. Parker and Darrel P. Francis
J Appl Physiol 107:696-706, 2009. First published 23 July 2009; doi: 10.1152/japplphysiol.90308.2008
Link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19628721

I didn't read this entire thread but I feel for BoxedIn. I've been there due strictly to sleep deprivation. All other aspects of my life are healthy, happy, and normal. Have you ever crawled out of bed with tremors and hypothermic due to severe sleep deprivation? The only thing keeping one alive at that point is adrenaline and when adrenaline is the only thing controlling your thoughts you don't think normal.
Having said that, I can recommend a book I just read that will put most people's problems in perspective. "Man's Search for Meaning" is written by a survivor of the concentration camps and also suggests that no matter what your situation you have an obligation to making the most of life (called Logotherapy). I won't preach but if you think you have problems check it out and you may start to think different.

I am not sure what you are looking on this forum for unless it is just to vent and then vent away. Venting helps me.

I think you have psychological issues that need to be looked at and although they could very well be caused by sleep apnea treating sleep apnea alone is not going to solve them. I think most people would have seen their doctor well before being in the state you are in and so I can see why employers or people here are frustrated with you.

Or maybe I am speaking to a troll and then nevermind.

After learning to monitor my therapy and dealing with AHI and breathing stability I no longer need pharmicutical splints. Had this been attended to earlier I probably never would have.

I wonder what happened to this person.

In a nutshell you are dying. I am in a similar boat. I have multiple serious health problems; pacemaker, aortic dissection and sleep
apnea. I have a little money in the bank, but I haven't work at my job in over a year. I am most likely about to get fired. I cannot
get disability because all the doctors pass the buck; they can't isolate the symptoms to a specific cause so it is not their department.

And to top it off I am alone. The best news I heard all month was the pulmonary doctor telling me I will need the cpap machine for
life.

I don't know what to say. Life was good as long as I was healthy, now it sucks.

I know I will need my cpap machine for the rest of my life.
As long as I am a good little frog and ALWAYS use it, odds are I will be around to see more generations of tadpoles.
And that is what it's all about.

You're not alone... now... you've got us (lucky you ). And we understand!

I feel for you. I'm at my wit's end too. I can't get the darn CPAP machine to work. I can't sleep with a mask on and my apnea is getting worse. I too had to leave my job because I couldn't sleep. I moved back in with parents. If it's possible to move in with family, I highly recommend it. It will take away the stress.

Oh, really?
My stress was never manageable until I left the original pond.
Sometimes you need to get out of a stressful situation,
even if it is family.

chunkyfrog wrote:Oh, really?
My stress was never manageable until I left the original pond.
Sometimes you need to get out of a stressful situation,
even if it is family.

I've heard Can't is catching, I sure hope Zubedude, find the cure fot it, before he drags it home for mom and dad to catch. For older people Can't can be deadly!

Like Chunkyfrog, I found being on my own, reduced stress, I only had to live with my own choices. Jim