Trying Hard Not to Commit Suicide

Odd's are after years in the Wayback machine, it's been sorted out. Jim

Anyone who talks about suicide needs serious mental help. Call the crisis line in your area--or even the one posted here. When you get that help then come back for sleep help. We really cannot help you here. Call the crisis line-do it now!

Or they are like many others here can't read and sadly want attention. Jim

severe apnea is only talking about events per hour, not the length of events or pressure required. some people have other diagnosed or undiagnosed medical problems that make them tired and exhausted. so even if the cpap works properly the other problem makes them tired. for instance, restless legs have the same effect as sleep apnea. maybe you have copd and need supplemental 02. I suggest a full physical exam by a totally different doctor.

The OP is long gone--last post was on page 3 of this thread--the only thread in which he posted.
Last post showed determination, but little optimism.
I hope he got through it ok, but we are unlikely to ever know.
Anyone in the same place, please get professional help, or at least call the suicide prevention hotline.

If you are suicidal, you need to call a suicide hotline. You also need to work with the doctor who prescribed the anti-depressant medication. There are always choices, and suicide is always the worst choice you can make.

Broke, jobless, so xxxxxx tired in the morning I can't even get up though my bladder is screaming. Sometimes suicide is the only choice to make, though it takes some courage. Calling a hotline is worthless; I called a few months ago and spilled; he told me he couldn't help me. I was actually grateful for his honesty and candor. Suicide gets a bad rap; for some its the only way to relieve pain and/or fatigue. You know how when you learn a new word or idea, and you start seeing it everywhere? It's like that for me with suffering due to physiological maladies. Suddenly I come across so many people who are miserable because of ailments that don't respond or don't respond well to treatment (like my case). And it's different for us, those who pine for death because of ailments. We're not like people who want to end it because they're lonely, or their family life is bad, or school is too much. We can't be helped by talking to a "therapist" or calling a hotline. I know for me that if I didn't wake up exhausted everyday I'd be so happy. Without this miserable xxxxx ailment I would be remarkably undepressed.

No one faults the person who takes meds or goes to a doctor in hopes of relieving suffering and pain; why is it so disturbing when someone has no hope wants to do the only thing they can to relieve their suffering?

Are you looking for someone to talk to re suicide, or help with apnea, Cpap, etc? We are not the people to ponder suicide with - do you have a therapist or some kind of help for that? If you need help with apnea, Cpap, etc. because it's not working, but you haven't had help with it, we can try to do that... we'd need to know what equipment you have (as specifically as possible), what pressure settings you use, and whatever else you can think of that would help us advise. Too many people were put on Cpap with no help at all re what to expect and how to fix what doesn't work - and there are many fixes that can be tried, from pressure re-settings to mask choices, adjustments, etc. No one should feel that terrible about this, though you obviously have other serious problems as well. Please let us know what your issues with Cpap/apnea, and other sleep problems are and see if we can make a difference, but we can't get into philosophizing about whether suicide is an option... and certainly not long distance even if we can sympathize about how lousy you can feel if therapy isn't working.

Wiped wrote:Broke, jobless, so xxxxx tired in the morning I can't even get up though my bladder is screaming. Sometimes suicide is the only choice to make, though it takes some courage. Calling a hotline is worthless; I called a few months ago and spilled; he told me he couldn't help me. I was actually grateful for his honesty and candor. Suicide gets a bad rap; for some its the only way to relieve pain and/or fatigue. You know how when you learn a new word or idea, and you start seeing it everywhere? It's like that for me with suffering due to physiological maladies. Suddenly I come across so many people who are miserable because of ailments that don't respond or don't respond well to treatment (like my case). And it's different for us, those who pine for death because of ailments. We're not like people who want to end it because they're lonely, or their family life is bad, or school is too much. We can't be helped by talking to a "therapist" or calling a hotline. I know for me that if I didn't wake up exhausted everyday I'd be so happy. Without this miserable xxxxx ailment I would be remarkably undepressed.

No one faults the person who takes meds or goes to a doctor in hopes of relieving suffering and pain; why is it so disturbing when someone has no hope wants to do the only thing they can to relieve their suffering?

It might be a good idea if you start a thread of your own. More people would see it and might offer suggestions.

What ailment are you referring to, if that isn't too personal? You also mentioned, "I know for me that if I didn't wake up exhausted everyday I'd be so happy." Are you plain exhausted or in pain? Is this sleep apnea related? I apologize if I'm not reading this the way you wanted it to be read. My best to you going forward.

I'd been pretty flat even after the cpap usage.. I felt way better physically and even mentally, but was just not motivated during the day, kind of like my body and mind still thought it needed to conserve energy. I think this happens to long time severe sufferers because there mind and body go into conservation mode. Exercise helped, and I got modafinil ( an awakness promoter), which really turned things around. I'm smiling all the time now, so happy that someone at work even mentioned it.

Nicholas - he has some serious cardiac problems, etc... but the last time (prior to yesterday) that he wrote in his language was disgusting to all - as if we'd done something - and even overlooking that while we asked for more info, etc. it was not provided... as if he just drops in once in a while to rant rather than work on Cpap or anything. So I tried to get specific yesterday about 'help' but who knows what will follow.

Julie wrote:Nicholas - he has some serious cardiac problems, etc... but the last time (prior to yesterday) that he wrote in his language was disgusting to all - as if we'd done something - and even overlooking that while we asked for more info, etc. it was not provided... as if he just drops in once in a while to rant rather than work on Cpap or anything. So I tried to get specific yesterday about 'help' but who knows what will follow.

Personally I don't care what he says to me, just trying to offer a different perspective. Seems like he needed it. It doesn't do my any good to hold grudges against people suffering from a disease on the internet that I'll never meet.

It wasn't about a grudge but about trying to help in the face of someone clearly not interested in help but just lashing out. I have nothing personal here either... good luck getting somewhere though.

I felt suicidal once.
Instead, I refinished a piece of wood furniture.
Creating beauty always cheers me up.
Whining to grouchy strangers can be dangerous . . .