Most of you are a bunch of jerks

Madalot wrote:

PST wrote:

Madalot wrote: The key for me to learning shorthand was phonetics. Shorthand works that way and once you grasp that concept (each squiggly line makes a sound, not a letter) and you put sounds together to make the word, it is much easier to understand. While I don't use it much anymore, if I'm taking a phone message for my husband that gets involved, I automatically resort to writing the basics in shorthand. It is much faster.

Maddy! I actually could make out some of it! I took Gregg shorthand in HS (oh, soooo long ago) and I loved it. I remember trying to find a word that could not be written in shorthand to challenge my teacher with and I did. The word was....onion. There is your challenge...how would you write onion in shorthand???? I cant wait to see.

Jeanette

Sent from whom to whom using which devices?

1. no1 b4 me. srsly.

2. dnt wrshp pix/idols

3. no omg's

4. no wrk on w/end (sat 4 now; sun l8r)

5. pos ok - ur m&d r cool

6. dnt kill ppl

7. :-X only w/ m8

8. dnt steal

9. dnt lie re: bf

10. dnt ogle ur bf's m8. or ox. or dnkey. myob.


M, pls rite on tabs & giv 2 ppl.

ttyl, JHWH.

ps. wwjd?

It looks like what God might say if he used text messaging instead of stone tablets.

Correction, it is what God would text to Moses if he wanted Moses to do the carving.

roster wrote:Sent from whom to whom using which devices?

1. no1 b4 me. srsly.

2. dnt wrshp pix/idols

3. no omg's

4. no wrk on w/end (sat 4 now; sun l8r)

5. pos ok - ur m&d r cool

6. dnt kill ppl

7. :-X only w/ m8

8. dnt steal

9. dnt lie re: bf

10. dnt ogle ur bf's m8. or ox. or dnkey. myob.


M, pls rite on tabs & giv 2 ppl.

ttyl, JHWH.

ps. wwjd?

OMG speed writing is nothing more then texting! I was cool in the 60's!!!!!

roster wrote:Sent from whom to whom using which devices?

1. no1 b4 me. srsly.

2. dnt wrshp pix/idols

3. no omg's

4. no wrk on w/end (sat 4 now; sun l8r)

5. pos ok - ur m&d r cool

6. dnt kill ppl

7. :-X only w/ m8

8. dnt steal

9. dnt lie re: bf

10. dnt ogle ur bf's m8. or ox. or dnkey. myob.


M, pls rite on tabs & giv 2 ppl.

ttyl, JHWH.

ps. wwjd?

Hey, that's pretty cool, Rooster! What comes around goes around. Kids think they're so smart today with their shortcuts for texting. They should see what ppl used back in the early days of the internet when we were communicating by way of bulletin boards using 128 baud modems (as in 128 kilobits, not bytes, per sec)!

Had a Greek genetics professor in college. The guy spoke so fast, it ruined my handwriting. It forced me to devise a sort of shorthand. I figure that, since doctors generally have such illegible handwriting, maybe they all had the same professor I had.

I think doctors have bad handwriting because if no one can prove that you actually wrote THAT, you can't be sued for having prescribed THAT.

Alternatively, there may be a lot of ADHD in the physician population.

SleepingUgly wrote:I think doctors have bad handwriting because if no one can prove that you actually wrote THAT, you can't be sued for having prescribed THAT.

Alternatively, there may be a lot of ADHD in the physician population.

No, this is the reason why doctors tend to have bad handwriting. Being an academic crowd and thus usually (not always, but usually) being very smart, they tend to be a lower dopamine crowd. They tend to be a conservative crowd...low dopamine levels are associated with being conservative, rigid, etc. The typical doctor psychology.

Lower levels of dopamine is also associated with poor fine motor skills (hand writing).

I should know as I have low testosterone as well and have always had bad handwriting and used to be told I was very smart a lot, before my health went bad. Not anymore. Low T is generally associated with being in a hypodopaminergic nervous system state. I have almost no libido for example.

When I take dopaminergic medications such as stimulants (Ritalin taken off label for fatigue, depression), low level dopamine agonists, MAOI antidepressants (all dopamine drugs), my handwriting improves dramatically. I also feel more stable on my feet.

Ive been accused of being very rigid, conservative, obsessive...all traits associated with lower dopamine levels.

Eric

EricinNC wrote:
No, this is the reason why doctors tend to have bad handwriting. Being an academic crowd and thus usually (not always, but usually) being very smart, they tend to be a lower dopamine crowd. They tend to be a conservative crowd...low dopamine levels are associated with being conservative, rigid, etc. The typical doctor psychology.

Lower levels of dopamine is also associated with poor fine motor skills (hand writing).

Eric

And you want to have surgery?

newhosehead wrote:

Madalot wrote:

PST wrote:

Madalot wrote: The key for me to learning shorthand was phonetics. Shorthand works that way and once you grasp that concept (each squiggly line makes a sound, not a letter) and you put sounds together to make the word, it is much easier to understand. While I don't use it much anymore, if I'm taking a phone message for my husband that gets involved, I automatically resort to writing the basics in shorthand. It is much faster.

Maddy! I actually could make out some of it! I took Gregg shorthand in HS (oh, soooo long ago) and I loved it. I remember trying to find a word that could not be written in shorthand to challenge my teacher with and I did. The word was....onion. There is your challenge...how would you write onion in shorthand???? I cant wait to see.

Jeanette

Jeanette!!! I have been pondering "onion" and have to agree with you that is one tough word to write in shorthand!!! I think if I was ever taking dictation and ran across that, I would have written real fast in long hand rather than waste any time working it out!!!

ok I am a yerk!

..someone else, too?

... then, we would be a bunch ...

Madalot wrote: . . . I have been pondering "onion" and have to agree with you that is one tough word to write in shorthand!!!

Like many things, maybe it was easier 100 years ago?:

To connect words of awkward or impossible joinings like Lehigh, ayah, yahoo, etc., the breve (a small and shallow marking resembling the r curve) was placed between the outlines. This marking was made to distinguish if a vowel needed to be notated as short (since there is no vowel marking for short vowels). The breve was placed underneath the vowel. This was a useful mark for notating words like onion, immigrate, minion, etc.

http://gregg.angelfishy.net/abpreann.shtml

Fun thread.

To kempo and jnk re the Harleys: I'd rather be skiing. Alas, spring is almost here even in WNY.

To all the folks commenting on learning or not learning typing in HS: I didn't. So my folks bought me two things for my HS graduation: A small portable manual typewriter and a book titled Typing Made Simple. And my mother nagged me every morning during that summer between HS and the beginning of college to go downstairs to the basement/office and teach myself to type. Didn't get very good at it, but did learn to type ten fingered. Typed just well enough in college to struggle through typing most of my own papers. Hit grad school in math and no papers to type---until, of course the dissertation related stuff. But by that time, the modern PC, Mac, and Sun Workstation had been invented with the keyboard with the magic "delete" key. Those rusty ten fingered typing skills along with muscle knowledge of where that delete key is paid off big time by the time I started using TeX to typeset the mathematics I was writing. And now I'm actually surprised by the number of colleagues and students who think I type fast.

To all the folks commenting on shorthand, speed writing, and texting: The number one complaint of my students through the years is that I can write on the board at about the same speed as I talk. And I write a whole lot more than most math profs do. I find that I have to consciously STOP writing to let my students catch up. I think I learned this skill of writing fast by taking lots of history classes in college.

Re "bunch" vs. "whole bunch"---Yep, they are different to this Southerner's ears. As are "a whole lot" vs. "a lot."

Re "you" and "y'all": My hubby is from NJ. Over the years he and his almost 90 year old mother have picked up "y'all" from me. It's really, really funny to here "y'all" in a NJ accent when the person saying it is not even fully aware that they're saying it AND using it correctly.

jnk wrote:

Madalot wrote: . . . I have been pondering "onion" and have to agree with you that is one tough word to write in shorthand!!!

Like many things, maybe it was easier 100 years ago?:

To connect words of awkward or impossible joinings like Lehigh, ayah, yahoo, etc., the breve (a small and shallow marking resembling the r curve) was placed between the outlines. This marking was made to distinguish if a vowel needed to be notated as short (since there is no vowel marking for short vowels). The breve was placed underneath the vowel. This was a useful mark for notating words like onion, immigrate, minion, etc.

http://gregg.angelfishy.net/abpreann.shtml

Yep! I was thinking about this very concept when I was trying to figure out how to write it. I COULD get it written down, but not sure anybody else would understand what I did.

Since the purpose of shorthand is speed, wouldn't it be better to just write "onion" and go on? Not meaning to spoil ya'lls fun with it, I'm just curious how it would be handled for real.