American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by BlackSpinner » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:46 am

Yeah, that would be the administrative assistant to the President who sends it straight to where it belongs
Don't count on it. People who do send to the CEO tend to be people who know what they are doing - I lived with someone who always did that and we got great results. They know that the kind of person who bothers to hunt up the info will be the one who shovels shit into the fan.

I am really surprised at the attendants attitude. I work for an airline (in a back office) I know my company is bending over backwards to be nice to customers in order to survive this down turn and the attendants know their jobs are on the line. Everyday someone gets laid off around you.
I also know we state that customers should never ever put their electronics or medications in the checked baggage because 1) it might go to the other side of the world 2) a truck might drive over it after it flies by itself 3) it ends up in a black hole in another dimension or 4) in someone else pocket (they always work for someone else then us)

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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by sleepyprm » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:11 am

Geez, these stories are horrible. I have never had a problem, even if my CPAP was my third (medical) bag. The gate agents have even offered to let me pre-board sometimes, with people with special needs. I declined so the ones who really need pre-boarding could do it. I'll have to rethink how I handle this. These experiences you describe are just WRONG.

There is no consistency or even just plaing courtesy. They seem to all make up the rules as they go along, and if we don't "comply," they make a fool of you, or worse. This makes me really mad. I guess I'll print the TSA regulations and take them along with my prescription from now on, and be ready to go up the chain of command. What is wrong with these prople?

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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by Paul56 » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:11 pm

Uhmm, I am not counting on anything here.

But I am saying don't have expectations that the President is going to drop everything to deal with this issue personally.

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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by jdm2857 » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:20 pm

I have had several experiences with bad customer service at large companies. When I contacted the CEO's office, I did not expect him/her to personally handle my problem. But each time I did, my situation was handled by people who were much more helpful, and had more authority to make accommodations than the regular customer service staff.
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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by TenmaNeko » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:48 pm

I go to the consumerist.com website often. They have said many times that there is a higher "level" of Customer Service Rep that has the power and authority to deal with situations like this. So e-mailing a CEO/President is one of the best ways to get what you want, since it is typically handed right to this group of people.

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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by Tcamillemars » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:09 pm

I put my daughter on a flight back to Switzerland ( she was an exchange student in the US for a year) She was flying United from Denver to Washington Dulles. By the time group 4 boarded- they were not allowed any carry ons other than their purse, laptop, or briefcase because there was no room. With the airlines charging so much to check baggage, I'm afraid this problem is only going to get worse, as people try to bring everything on the plane with them. I don't intend to try to fly with anything larger than what will fit under the seat.

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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by Ganesha » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:41 pm

Yoda,

I travelled last week on business for the first time with the CPAP (Continental Airlines).
Everyone I encountered from the airline or TSA I told them I had CPAP medical equipment.
There was no problem with the third carry-on in either Newark NJ or Rochester NY.
The only TSA involvement was a quick check of the CPAP bag in Rochester.
I would also printout a copy of the TSA ruling on medical equipment to help make your case.

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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by roster » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:06 pm

Yoda,

I would say you came out well considering what these two families went through last weekend.
Parents fuming over airline's kid-on-plane mix-ups Associated Press Writer Juan A. Lozano, Associated Press Writer – Wed Jun 17, 5:22 pm ET
HOUSTON – The mother of an 8-year-old girl who was put on the wrong plane while traveling unaccompanied blames the mix-up on "total incompetence and a lack of caring" by Continental Airlines.

Wendy Babineaux said Wednesday she's "getting the run-around" from the airline while trying to find out how her daughter, Taylor Williams, flew out of Houston on Saturday and ended up in Fayetteville, Ark. She was supposed to go to Charlotte, N.C., to visit her father.

The next day, 10-year-old Miriam Kamens wound up in Newark, N.J., while flying alone on the same Continental contractor, ExpressJet. She was supposed to travel from Boston to Cleveland to see her grandparents.

The families had paid a $75 unaccompanied minor fee for the service.


"That they did this with my child and turned around the next day and did it with another child shows they do have major problems," said Babineaux, who lives in the Bryan-College Station area 90 miles northwest of Houston.

Continental, based in Houston, said that in both cases two flights were departing simultaneously from a single doorway and miscommunication among staff resulted in the children being placed on the wrong planes.

"We're reviewing the entire situation and are focused on reinforcing our procedures with our employees," said Continental spokeswoman Kelly Cripe. "We fly thousands of unaccompanied minors every year and the procedures work when followed."

Babineaux called it "total incompetence and a lack of caring" by the airline.

Miriam's father, Jonathan Kamens, agreed, writing Tuesday on his blog: "When this number of employees messes up, you don't just have a training problem; your corporate policies have made it too difficult for people to do the right thing or too easy to mess up."

Babineaux said she learned of the mistake from the airport in Arkansas — not Continental. She said her daughter — who finally got to Charlotte at about 10:30 p.m. — is unaware of what happened and she doesn't plan on telling her until after she returns to Texas next month.

"I don't want her to get (on the return flight) and be all nervous," Babineaux said.

At Continental, parents provide contact information when arranging for a child to fly alone. The paperwork is then given to employees at the ticket counter and parents are given a dummy boarding pass so they can go to the gate with their child.

A child is supposed to always be escorted and supervised. A child can be escorted by a gate agent to a plane and then handed off to a flight attendant. After the plane lands, the flight attendant is supposed to hand the child off to a gate agent or escort. Parents are given passes for their pickup people on arrival.

At Continental's hub airports — Houston, Cleveland and Newark — unaccompanied minors can wait at supervised facilities called Young Traveler Clubs, which provide entertainment and snacks.

Kamens doesn't think Continental has the right policies in place. He offered some suggestions. First on his list?

"Do not board two planes at the same time out of the same gate, period," he wrote.

Among his other ideas were letting parents or escorts accompany minors onto a plane and requiring the minors preboard.

While Babineaux has hired an attorney, both she and Kamens have said they are not looking for compensation from a lawsuit.

"This way, when (Continental) hears attorney, they think maybe, 'We need to get our stuff together,'" Babineaux said. "I'm hoping to get better treatment for unaccompanied minors so no one will have to go through what I did."

Cripe said the airline has apologized to both families and they have been refunded their $75 fees.
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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by Bearded_One » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:19 pm

I am able to carry my CPAP stuff, medications, extension cord, and a couple of books or magazines in a Respironics Series M bag. I can also fit my CPAP battery and charger in my CPAP bag if I decide to carry it. I carry my laptop, camera, cell phone charger, and lunch in a laptop bag. I have been on commuter planes where all carry-ons, including laptop bags, had to be checked plane-side. Depending upon the airplane, I may, or may not, be able to carry my CPAP bag on the plane.

I carry my spare mask, spare hose, spare CPAP cord, and possibly another extension cord in my checked luggage.

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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by plr66 » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:38 pm

I would again recommend that given all the inconsistencies and lack of guarantees about what will happen at any given gate......pack your onboard stuff with ultimate flexibility in mind, rather than feel victimized later!

If you want a bunch of certain stuff onboard for the flight (I certainly do!), pack that so you can send the most optional stuff into baggage quickly and easily when required. My cpap bag is my first priority onboard. If they ever tell me I can only have that bag plus one other bag--I've got it figured out well ahead of time, and quickly stash any of the unnecessaries into an extra duffle with the stuff that will not be damaged, to go into baggage, with my baggage tag attached. This just does not have to be an issue, IMHO.

As I have said previously, I have a wheeled daypack with all my onboard stuff, with a smaller daypack inside that. I have my cpap bag carried separately, with all the equipment in there that I will never allow to leave my side onboard (usually under the seat, but I'm fine with it overhead in my eyesight). So if 2 bags would ever not be acceptable (and my wheeled one is pretty small)--then I am prepared to stash some of the luxury stuff into my spare bag to stow underneath in baggage. Has never happened.
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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by CPAPfrequentflier » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:39 pm

I fly 4-5 times a week for work, my company uses American airlines exclusively. I have never had them ask for my CPAP bag to be checked, ofcourse I carry mine in the bag that was designed for it. I also carry a laptop bag which is where I place my meds, I only carry enough for my trip plus 72 hours. If I am delayed longer than 24 hours I am on the phone to my pharmacy back home and have them fax my scripts to a pharmacy where I am incase I am delayed longer than 72 hours.

You mentioned your backpack weighing 40 lbs.? Your CPAP and laptop together would probably barely tip the 12 lb. mark, this means you already had a backpack that weighted 28 lbs.? I couldn't imagine what you would be carrying on a domestic flight that would weigh that much, but to each their own I guess. The idea that it was a "Medical Equipment" bag has already been discused I guess......it somewhat like soldiers shooting from a church yelling "you can't shoot at us in a church the Geneva convention says so!!".

I too am going to have to side with the Airlines on this one.

Oh and I have an M Series machine as well.

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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by LinkC » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:27 pm

rooster wrote:they have been refunded their $75 fees.
Well, THAT makes everything hunky-dory!!!

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Post by roster » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:23 pm

LinkC wrote:
rooster wrote:they have been refunded their $75 fees.
Well, THAT makes everything hunky-dory!!!
I guess there are some PR geniuses making decisions for Continental.
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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by billbolton » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:41 pm

plr66 wrote:I would again recommend that given all the inconsistencies and lack of guarantees about what will happen at any given gate......pack your onboard stuff with ultimate flexibility in mind, rather than feel victimized later!
Good advice!

Aircrew are able to, and will, prevent any passenger taking anything much at all into the cabin if they aprehend there are flight safety issues involved, no matter what some other non-flight safety guideline/rule/regulation/law might suggest.

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Re: American Airlines took my medical equipment bag

Post by LinkC » Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:02 pm

I hope they don't start tossing off fat guys in the name of "flight safety"!!!

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