CPAP Destruction and Disastrous Doc office visit.

Ditto what Wulfman said.

doubleg137, What do you expect a doctor to do for you? If you read this forum, you should know that each of us is responsible for our own therapy. We need the doctors for a prescription for a machine. Beyond that you need to take control of your therapy. Have you tried anything new or have you just been doing the same things for 10 years?

mindy wrote:I wonder if this guy is for real .... or just someone pulling our collective legs?

Mindy

No way this is a real story...........
Don't waste your time with it

mindy wrote:I wonder if this guy is for real .... or just someone pulling our collective legs?

Mindy

Hard tellin'.

Den

Wulfman wrote:

mindy wrote:I wonder if this guy is for real .... or just someone pulling our collective legs?

Mindy

Hard tellin'.

Den

unfortunately it could be very true

yeah this guy needs help - not much we can do - he has to own up to what he did and go from there -- but until he buys a new machine, his therapy isn't going to go anywhere and for that he needs the script and plastic money (or find a good buy on craigslist)

Whenever a post is just a bit toooo far out to ring true to me, I can picture the person sitting back and chuckling over the continual addition of more posts giving him/her advice. I hope I'm wrong ...... but have my doubts. I read through everything this person has posted and it just doesn't make the cut as far as I'm concerned ....

Mindy

There are a few people that lack self control and abuse those people trying to help them. I have been an EMT for over 20 years and on a few rare occasions, we get an out of control patient. There is a standard protocol used to handle these situations. Most first aid calls have police present, so the majority of patients behave.
So, is this a prank or is this one of those rare occasions that someone is trying to bite the hand that is helping them?

mindy wrote:Whenever a post is just a bit toooo far out to ring true to me, I can picture the person sitting back and chuckling over the continual addition of more posts giving him/her advice. I hope I'm wrong ...... but have my doubts. I read through everything this person has posted and it just doesn't make the cut as far as I'm concerned ....

Mindy

I've had similar thoughts about some of our "Guest" posters who put down or question our self-monitoring, self-pressure-adjusting, clinical manual-providing ways on this forum. I could see where they might get a chuckle out of seeing how many people jump out to bash them. Some people get their jollies off in different ways.

Den

The top 5 details likely left out of the original post:

5. He was actually aiming for the Bose radio because it only played easy-listening music.
4. He won that bat at an anger-management/baseball camp run by Lou Piniella.
3. The machine sometimes seemed to whisper to him that it was the anti-Christ.
2. After walking out of the "doctor's office," he realized he had accidentally cursed out the receptionist at his dog's veterinary clinic.
1. The last line of his post was supposed to be: "And then I woke up from that dream."

My personal favorite lines from the post:

". . . didn't really understand the gravity of the situation. . . ."
". . . not normally a hothead. . . ."
". . . might take a sick day . . ."
". . . maybe one night of sleep per week is all I need. . . ."

Let's hope the post isn't real, or those of us who thought is wasn't may now have to apply to enter the Federal witness protection program.

jeff, . . . oops, I mean bob, or john, or . . .

OH WOW!!!!!!! I think alot of us can literally FEEL your pain & frustration! You've been trying for over 10 years....that in itself says alot about how hard you've tried to make the cpap therapy work! I don't know if you read any of my posts under, "Air leaks, sore nose, et,c. etc..." from a couple of days ago...but it sounds like you've been just as frustrated with your mask fit & comfort issues as I was (maybe even worse!). In a nutshell, I found something, (an accessory product) to use with my mask- that has eliminated the air leaks, red marks/sores, waking up all the time to readjust my mask, etc. It has made all the difference form me & I am now sleeping all night long & feeling like a human again. I don't know if any equipmqnt stores carry it in your area, they do here in Michigan. But there is a website, RemZzzs.com that you can read about it & purchase too. Good luck... PS. I hope the repairs to your ceiling, lamp etc. aren't too costly!!!

This type of situation does not sound far fetched to me. Whether the OP stands to benefit from the discussion or not, the talking points are not unique to them.

Long term sleep deprivation can deplete us emotionally as well as physically, and it stands to reason that the many faces of disrupted sleep architecture will present to differing extremes of effect. Is the person who for years gets quality sleep but only 3 hours of it affected the same as one who hasn't got past Stage 1 or 2 for years? Probably not.

I just remember how uncharacteristically temperamental I was. While I am not one to use profanity, I was irritable and "loaded for bear" and crossed lines in communication I would never have crossed with my full capacities. At one point I, as a manager, went on a tirade (including tears) against the CEO in the presence of an employee. If I had been prone to profanity normally, I can imagine it could have slipped thru that day. I am not condoning inexcusable behavior. I am only saying I can understand that if a level of desperation occurs in conjunction with reduced emotional resources to handle it appropriately, it's a recipe for disaster.

Do you have a history of sleepwalking or sleep activity with amnesia? If this is newer behavior, check any meds to be sure it's not a side effect. About that bat - you're in more immediate danger from yourself than an intruder. My docile father was sometimes violent in his sleep, and even caused personal and property damage.

I have multiple sleep disorders, and while some things I cannot control, I found that doing those things I can has made a difference, as in being diligent with making my cpap treatment work for me. It may be that cpap is the target of your frustration though not the whole cause. While this site is a great place to vent, it's even greater in offering the combined experience of those who have "paved the way". While not every piece of advice will be applicable or even accurate, supplying specifics then applying helpful hints has helped many turn their situations around (like me).

doubleg137, there has been some wise counsel in the previous posts. This level of expression of anger should be a wakeup call. Considering that your coping abilities are not peak right now, is there a friend or family member who can advocate for you? Herein lies the dilemma - you need help, but your anger is over not being able to get help when you were trying to get it. You may have burned your bridges with that doctor - you can see how far an apology can take you. A couple suggestions on seeing a doctor sooner.. make that long term appointment and ask to be called if there are any cancellations, then call the office regularly to ask if there have been any cancellations. Prime time for an appointment to open up is in nasty weather. Secondly, ask to speak to the doctor's nurse and explain that you have safety concerns due to having sleep activity with no memory of it. This info may get you a priority status. Worth a try. I'm wondering if a neurologist (with or without a sleep specialty) might be helpful to you. Best wishes on getting medical help sooner than later.

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jnk wrote:The top 5 details likely left out of the original post:

5. He was actually aiming for the Bose radio because it only played easy-listening music.
4. He won that bat at an anger-management/baseball camp run by Lou Piniella.
3. The machine sometimes seemed to whisper to him that it was the anti-Christ.
2. After walking out of the "doctor's office," he realized he had accidentally cursed out the receptionist at his dog's veterinary clinic.
1. The last line of his post was supposed to be: "And then I woke up from that dream."

My personal favorite lines from the post:

". . . didn't really understand the gravity of the situation. . . ."
". . . not normally a hothead. . . ."
". . . might take a sick day . . ."
". . . maybe one night of sleep per week is all I need. . . ."


Let's hope the post isn't real, or those of us who thought is wasn't may now have to apply to enter the Federal witness protection program.

jeff, . . . oops, I mean bob, or john, or . . .

Unfortunately, there are people who use foul and condescending language on others but don't physically hit or kick them. These people are insecure and have anger management problems. They tend to blame others for everything and don't or can't see that their attitudes or stinkin thinking are causing their anger to become destructive. They usually destroy things(but spare particular items they treasure) rather than physically hurt people. They also use emotional abuse on others and never forget a thing that has happened to them in their entire life. They need to learn to let go of what they can't change from their past and get some new attitudes and learn ways to avoid these explosions. How do I know this? I have witnessed it more than once with the same person.

I sure hope this guy or gal doesn't have a spouse sleeping in the same room. Scary!!! I particularly hope he/she doesn't have kids who witness this scary and abusive behavior.

If you are reading this doubleg please seek out anger management counseling. It will help you to be able to keep a relationship, which I imagine you may have a hard time doing at present. No one wants to be around an angry foul mouthed person. Please get help and don't blame your anger on the machine, mask and other people or even sleep deprivation. Everyone has problems and issues that make them angry but they don't take a baseball bat and smash stuff or use demeaning foul language on whoever happens to be in their path. That means you have a problem that needs to be dealt with.

Hope we hear from you a few months down the road and you tell us you are in anger management and learning how to deal with issues and problems in constructive ways and learning respect will get you further than demeaning comments.

Anne

I think it is true. He registered four months back and had three other posts that do not contradict what he said here. Jokesters generally are not that patient to wait for responses.

Besides, what I experienced before I was diagnosed was too scarily close to this report.

I hope he takes control of his therapy and is successful.

doubleg137 wrote:I woke up this past weekend after having destroyed my cpap machine with a bat. I don't really remember doing it. I have tried for what seems like millennia trying to get the machine to work, and I only have had one true night of restful sleep in the past decade (last night of restful sleep in Sept 1997). I kept ripping the mask off my face no matter what I would try. I also had to repair the seven holes in the drywall from swinging the bat around, and replace the lamp I broke. Thankfully the bose radio is on the dresser across the room. So, not only am I out the costs of the lamp, drywall repair, new texture and paint, I'm down to no cpap machines, and now I've given up. I also can't get my doctor's office to understand how dire my situation is, and I'm afraid I have to find a new one since I got mad at the receptionist and yelled at her at a very loud volume while at the office complex. After going to the office and several minutes of attempting to explain the situation to her (not wanting to wait four months for the first open appointment), she didn't really understand the gravity of the situation.
I said that I had to see my doctor as soon as possible and that I would wait the entire day for any appointment that happened to open up. She told me it was not useful to wait around.... I cut her off and started yelling " I would try to explain my situation in simpler terms, but since I left my 'English to complete f**king moron' translation dictionary at home, I find myself at a loss." I think I tossed in the "c" word.... I don't really remember. I then left the office, and people cleared from my flight path as I walked away.

I'm not normally a hothead. My fatigue is getting so bad that I'm afraid that I will lose my job when I explode after hitting a trigger point. I might take a sick day here and there to attempt to sleep sitting up. maybe one night of sleep per week is all I need.

Has anyone ever had this much trouble getting to see a doctor? I'm thinking about just paying for it out of my own pocket rather than let and health benefit insurance handle it.

Uou don't need cpap, you need a psychiatrist

DSM

(Either this is a joke or a .....)

The clue is in the last sentence ... compared to what preceded it.

In previous thread he referred to 4 1/2 years without sleeping and in this one it's suddenly over 10 years......

Mindy

well, if this is true. IF.

I'd be willing to bet, if you walked into your doctors office, and calmly talked to the receptionist and explained you are soo sleep deprived it is affecting your life to the point you cant work, putting your job in jeopardy, you cant function anywhere near normal, she'd be willing to 'work you in' or go talk to the doctor and see what could happen. Treating the receptionist, nurse, whoever like that will not help, they are the ones that contral who the doctor sees and when. Your now on their crap list. The longer they put you off, the more likely you will go to another doctor, and they never have to deal with you again. If you truly want to see this doctor, you need to go buy some flowers, go see this receptionist, apologize, beg forgiveness, and explain you desperately need to see the doctor. Then, maybe, if someone cancels, or there is a spot that is open somehow, you may get it.