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Re: Several Questions

Post by Okie bipap » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:21 pm

jimbud wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:58 pm
I am very thankful for Spell Check.
Mine is probably due to be greased again.
It gets alot of use.
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Re: Several Questions

Post by palerider » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:43 pm

Okie bipap wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:21 pm
jimbud wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:58 pm
I am very thankful for Spell Check.
Mine is probably due to be greased again.
It gets alot of use.
AUTO CORRECT.jpg
Usually, for me, it's AutoINcorrect.

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Re: Several Questions

Post by jimbud » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:57 pm

palerider wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:43 pm
Okie bipap wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:21 pm
jimbud wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:58 pm
I am very thankful for Spell Check.
Mine is probably due to be greased again.
It gets alot of use.
AUTO CORRECT.jpg
Usually, for me, it's AutoINcorrect.
Another problem for me is I will spall the word incorrectly, but I will steal spell a word correctly, just not the on I ment to us. :?

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Re: Several Questions

Post by palerider » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:19 pm

jimbud wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:57 pm
palerider wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:43 pm
Okie bipap wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:21 pm
jimbud wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:58 pm
I am very thankful for Spell Check.
Mine is probably due to be greased again.
It gets alot of use.
AUTO CORRECT.jpg
Usually, for me, it's AutoINcorrect.
Another problem for me is I will spall the word incorrectly, but I will steal spell a word correctly, just not the on I ment to us. :?

JPB
Yeah, that's bean a problem with spooling chequers for yarns.

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Re: Several Questions

Post by golfgame » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:22 am

Pugsy wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:11 am
If you hear noise and it's not the venting....it's from something not being attached properly.
There is simply no other explanation.
I do agree that for noises that aren't in your face loud and obvious that it can be difficult to figure out where they are coming from.

I am sorry you are having such difficulty attaching the ports and I suspect that is a likely culprit in noticeable air noise in your situation.
Are you testing the seal and that includes adhesive and port attachment prior to hooking the hose up to the machine?
That's what I do every time I put the mask on.

1....attach the ports to my nose
2....attach the ports to the mask
3....put the palm of my hand over the end of the hose so that it seals and then I take a few breaths. If I can move the air then I know I need to redo the port attachment.

Djams adds another step...after he attaches the ports to his nose he puts a finger over each port hole and tries to breathe to make sure no leaks in the adhesive. Then he attaches the mask. I don't do this step as I can pretty much eyeball the adhesive seal and know if it is good or not. I never have a leak at that level but I do sometimes have to re-attach the port to the mask.

Another potential leak area is the silicone cushion groove to the plastic frame but that leak is normally not very loud and usually its either felt or just shows up on the leak graph.
FINALLY!!!........a quite successful night with Bleep. I heard no air leaking but the MyAir results are hard to understand.
11L/per min leakage
2.1 events P/hr
Mask off 4 times, How can this be?

My biggest issue with Bleep is positioning the ports at the right angle for an easy connection.

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Re: Several Questions

Post by Pugsy » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:01 am

Mask off...it's counting starting and stopping the machine and has no way of course to know if the mask was actually off or not.
Did you turn the machine off and on again for some reason or other?

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Re: Several Questions

Post by golfgame » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:02 am

Pugsy wrote:Mask off...it's counting starting and stopping the machine and has no way of course to know if the mask was actually off or not.
Did you turn the machine off and on again for some reason or other?
Yes, I probably did as I checked for leaks as I prepped for bed

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Re: Several Questions

Post by golfgame » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:36 am

golfgame wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:22 am
Pugsy wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:11 am
If you hear noise and it's not the venting....it's from something not being attached properly.
There is simply no other explanation.
I do agree that for noises that aren't in your face loud and obvious that it can be difficult to figure out where they are coming from.

I am sorry you are having such difficulty attaching the ports and I suspect that is a likely culprit in noticeable air noise in your situation.
Are you testing the seal and that includes adhesive and port attachment prior to hooking the hose up to the machine?
That's what I do every time I put the mask on.

1....attach the ports to my nose
2....attach the ports to the mask
3....put the palm of my hand over the end of the hose so that it seals and then I take a few breaths. If I can move the air then I know I need to redo the port attachment.

Djams adds another step...after he attaches the ports to his nose he puts a finger over each port hole and tries to breathe to make sure no leaks in the adhesive. Then he attaches the mask. I don't do this step as I can pretty much eyeball the adhesive seal and know if it is good or not. I never have a leak at that level but I do sometimes have to re-attach the port to the mask.

Another potential leak area is the silicone cushion groove to the plastic frame but that leak is normally not very loud and usually its either felt or just shows up on the leak graph.
FINALLY!!!........a quite successful night with Bleep. I heard no air leaking but the MyAir results are hard to understand.
11L/per min leakage
2.1 events P/hr
Mask off 4 times, How can this be?

My biggest issue with Bleep is positioning the ports at the right angle for an easy connection.
I'm finding that at least once a week I struggle to get the RH port snapped in place. It has something to do with the angle of everything. What makes it work is looking in the mirror while attempting to snap it in place. Usually, I have disturbed the adhesive to the point that I end up ripping everything off and going without a mask that night! This is very Irritaing!!!!!!!

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Re: Several Questions

Post by golfgame » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:33 am

golfgame wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:36 am
golfgame wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:22 am
Pugsy wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:11 am
If you hear noise and it's not the venting....it's from something not being attached properly.
There is simply no other explanation.
I do agree that for noises that aren't in your face loud and obvious that it can be difficult to figure out where they are coming from.

I am sorry you are having such difficulty attaching the ports and I suspect that is a likely culprit in noticeable air noise in your situation.
Are you testing the seal and that includes adhesive and port attachment prior to hooking the hose up to the machine?
That's what I do every time I put the mask on.

1....attach the ports to my nose
2....attach the ports to the mask
3....put the palm of my hand over the end of the hose so that it seals and then I take a few breaths. If I can move the air then I know I need to redo the port attachment.

Djams adds another step...after he attaches the ports to his nose he puts a finger over each port hole and tries to breathe to make sure no leaks in the adhesive. Then he attaches the mask. I don't do this step as I can pretty much eyeball the adhesive seal and know if it is good or not. I never have a leak at that level but I do sometimes have to re-attach the port to the mask.

Another potential leak area is the silicone cushion groove to the plastic frame but that leak is normally not very loud and usually its either felt or just shows up on the leak graph.
FINALLY!!!........a quite successful night with Bleep. I heard no air leaking but the MyAir results are hard to understand.
11L/per min leakage
2.1 events P/hr
Mask off 4 times, How can this be?

My biggest issue with Bleep is positioning the ports at the right angle for an easy connection.
I'm finding that at least once a week I struggle to get the RH port snapped in place. It has something to do with the angle of everything. What makes it work is looking in the mirror while attempting to snap it in place. Usually, I have disturbed the adhesive to the point that I end up ripping everything off and going without a mask that night! This is very Irritaing!!!!!!!

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Re: Several Questions

Post by golfgame » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:51 am

golfgame wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:33 am
golfgame wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:36 am
golfgame wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:22 am
Pugsy wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:11 am
If you hear noise and it's not the venting....it's from something not being attached properly.
There is simply no other explanation.
I do agree that for noises that aren't in your face loud and obvious that it can be difficult to figure out where they are coming from.

I am sorry you are having such difficulty attaching the ports and I suspect that is a likely culprit in noticeable air noise in your situation.
Are you testing the seal and that includes adhesive and port attachment prior to hooking the hose up to the machine?
That's what I do every time I put the mask on.

1....attach the ports to my nose
2....attach the ports to the mask
3....put the palm of my hand over the end of the hose so that it seals and then I take a few breaths. If I can move the air then I know I need to redo the port attachment.

Djams adds another step...after he attaches the ports to his nose he puts a finger over each port hole and tries to breathe to make sure no leaks in the adhesive. Then he attaches the mask. I don't do this step as I can pretty much eyeball the adhesive seal and know if it is good or not. I never have a leak at that level but I do sometimes have to re-attach the port to the mask.

Another potential leak area is the silicone cushion groove to the plastic frame but that leak is normally not very loud and usually its either felt or just shows up on the leak graph.
FINALLY!!!........a quite successful night with Bleep. I heard no air leaking but the MyAir results are hard to understand.
11L/per min leakage
2.1 events P/hr
Mask off 4 times, How can this be?

My biggest issue with Bleep is positioning the ports at the right angle for an easy connection.
I'm finding that at least once a week I struggle to get the RH port snapped in place. It has something to do with the angle of everything. What makes it work is looking in the mirror while attempting to snap it in place. Usually, I have disturbed the adhesive to the point that I end up ripping everything off and going without a mask that night! This is very Irritaing!!!!!!!
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Re: Several Questions

Post by Pugsy » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:16 am

The worst the leak went to was 38 L/min.
You do have a couple of UAs flagged which means the machine sensed something was going on but couldn't decide what it was in the face of the large leak. So the machine wasn't totally clueless. I think your machine most like didn't miss very many events (if any).
Your centrals/CAs (the majority anyway) are very likely awake related because of the leaks. You knew the mask was leaking and you had to be awake to know it.

20 % of the night over 24 L/min but you never went over 40 L/min and you still get Mr Smiley for leak management despite the ugliness of the graph. If you weren't waking so much fiddling with the leaks I wouldn't be hugely concerned with this report.
Now if you start spending huge amounts of time over 40 L/min then I might be more concerned.

Your OSA part of things...fairly well managed. The sleep and fiddling with the mask part of things...not so well managed and a work in progress.
Try not trimming the adhesive any at all and see if it will stay more secure with more surface area touching the skin.

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Re: Several Questions

Post by golfgame » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:21 am

Pugsy wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:16 am
The worst the leak went to was 38 L/min.
You do have a couple of UAs flagged which means the machine sensed something was going on but couldn't decide what it was in the face of the large leak. So the machine wasn't totally clueless. I think your machine most like didn't miss very many events (if any).
Your centrals/CAs (the majority anyway) are very likely awake related because of the leaks. You knew the mask was leaking and you had to be awake to know it.

20 % of the night over 24 L/min but you never went over 40 L/min and you still get Mr Smiley for leak management despite the ugliness of the graph. If you weren't waking so much fiddling with the leaks I wouldn't be hugely concerned with this report.
Now if you start spending huge amounts of time over 40 L/min then I might be more concerned.

Your OSA part of things...fairly well managed. The sleep and fiddling with the mask part of things...not so well managed and a work in progress.
Try not trimming the adhesive any at all and see if it will stay more secure with more surface area touching the skin.
Thanks Pugsy,
I will forward a followup report in the future after the mask issue stabilizes. In regards to trimming the adhesive it would be nice to have that 3M adhesive available on a roll.

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Re: Several Questions

Post by Pugsy » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:28 am

golfgame wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:21 am
In regards to trimming the adhesive it would be nice to have that 3M adhesive available on a roll.
I have looked and can't find it anywhere retail.
Send Stuart a note and ask him if he has any spare sheets laying around because you need reinforcements.

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