Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

[ems]

If you want to try a great nasal pillow mask - it's the Aloha! The headgear is minimal and it's adjustable!! Resmed just needs to start listening to us - the CPAP mask users and make the headgear adjustable! One size will not and does not fit all. The P10 might be comfortable but if you get major leaks due to a headgear that doesn't fit, what good is it then?

Have you even tried the P10?

Nope!

Just 6 posts complaining how crummy it is.

Then people ask why I hate everybody...

How do you always manage to stick your nose where it doesn't belong? I was getting some good info about the AirFit P10, which I hope to get in a few weeks. Then, all of a sudden, here YOU come again!

I personally don't give a blast why you hate or don't hate everybody. You're such a transparent PIA!

[Sludge]

If you want to try a great nasal pillow mask - it's the Aloha! The headgear is minimal and it's adjustable!! Resmed just needs to start listening to us - the CPAP mask users and make the headgear adjustable! One size will not and does not fit all. The P10 might be comfortable but if you get major leaks due to a headgear that doesn't fit, what good is it then?

Have you even tried the P10?

Nope!

Just 6 posts complaining how crummy it is.

Then people ask why I hate everybody...

How do you always manage to stick your nose where it doesn't belong? I was getting some good info about the AirFit P10, which I hope to get in a few weeks. Then, all of a sudden, here YOU come again!

I personally don't give a blast why you hate or don't hate everybody. You're such a transparent PIA!

You sure follow a lot of posts on somebody who's on your foe list.

And, no, no matter how much you beg, I won't have sex with you.

[Sludge]

And, no, no matter how much you beg, I won't have sex with you.

Even even there were enough Jack Daniels on the planet.

[ems]

Interesting... why do you think you're on my foe list? Guilty of something? No one is on my foe list.

[Sludge]

And, no, no matter how much you beg, I won't have sex with you.

Even even there were enough Jack Daniels on the planet.

...AND the unfortunate recipient of a lobotomy gone wrong...

[levman]

This is where we have to say "one man's treasure is another man's trash"....

Exactly right. As reported on my previous posts, I'm having an outstanding experience with the AirFit, best I've had out of three different masks. I'm sleeping better, waking up less, my AHI is the lowest it's ever been, and I've not once had the nasal pillows get pushed out of place by my pillow (a common occurrence for me with the Swift FX). And I really like the diffuser design, not requiring a separate diffuser pad is a big plus, one less consumable to buy and one less component to lose.

On the flip side, I spent 45 nights with the Pilairo Q, which has gotten many good reviews from other users and for which I had high hopes, and my personal experience with it was not at all positive. In fact I was about to (begrudgingly) go back to the Swift FX when the AirFit was released. To each their own!

[flyingwithoutwings]

Well, my AHI last night was 6.2 so it's time to return it. Nasal pillows are not going to work for me. I tried because I like how lightweight it is but every night my AHI has just gone up.

[Loreena]

For those having trouble, here's how I "wear" this mask. BTW, this is the best mask, by far, that I've ever used. (I love the Pilairo, but the pillows got "thin" after a short time, and then my sleep would deterioriate. With the AirFit, the "reinforced" pillows seem to last a lot longer. If I could use new Pilairo pillows every night, it would be a tough choice between the AirFit and the Pilairo, however. But at $25 a pop, there's no way I can "swing" new Pilairo pillows every night.*)

For the AirFit:

First, I stretched out the headgear straps by wrapping them around a stuffed animal leg tightly and leaving it there for 5 days.

Second, then I used the mask, but first I put on my deluxe-style chinstrap loosely, in order to "anchor" the straps for the whole night. The loose chinstrap also serves as a "reminder" to my brain to keep my mouth shut.

Third, I put the lower strap lower than my ears and placed the upper strap mid-head (adjust as you like). After the first night, I felt I could use more "tightness" in the lower strap so I dunked the lower strap in water for 2 minutes and it dried by that night and it actually shrunk up enough to be perfect.

The mask is a gift from God for me.

NOTE: Pilairo pillows can last much longer for others than for me. My personal observation is I don't think they last as long as the AirFit for me.

[HerbM]

My review from a newbie perspective so take my lack of experience into account:

I have ZERO experience with any other mask then the AirFit P10 and only 7 days on that.

The P10 is supposed to be quieter than other masks and lighter, less intrusive. I don't know about that.

I do know the P10:

... is giving EVEN this NEWBIE essentially ZERO LEAKS: 0-Med 0-95% 3.6 MAX for 7 hours last night and similar numbers before that.

...is QUIET, quieter than my breathing because I don't even hear it, and so quiet that I literally could not tell it was working and the first couple of nights occasionally opened my mouth just to be sure the pressure was on. The only time it makes noise is when it leaks because I shifted it out of place (the first couple of days before I understood and got comfortable with the whole idea.)

...is comfortable (once I figured out the right size and how to put it in my nose) -- for 4+ hours last night I didn't even move it or think about it except to marvel that if you put it in just right it is like wearing your favorite baseball cap or broken in house shoes, barely there.

...is helping give (even this newbie) great numbers, AHI last night was 1.86 despite the 2nd half of the night being difficult due to congestion -- I was actually awake much of that time and even awake the mask didn't annoy me; there was no issue about keeping it on even with not much experience and my true AHI was probably 0.7 (most of the events were bogus, i.e., while I was KNOWN to be awake, and several others were machine artifacts, e.g., hypopnea where sleepyhead shows me breathing but just at a slightly reduced volume with good tidal movement, and a few were just very marginal, e.g., 10 second CA.

...works despite my severe congestion IF I can get my nose open to START with and until my both nostrils close up totally -- mostly it not only splints my lower airway but also my nose. However nasal CPAP mask might do this part as well.

...stays on with no excessive shifting around despite the minimalist design and simple head strap. Oh, and the head strap leaves no marks and is barely noticeable too.

...I like it. (But I have nothing to compare except my Oracle Oral mask which I thought would be necessary for me to mouth breath and I used for 2 hours before giving up; it was actually WORSE with the nasal congestion than the nasal pillows.)

...wasn't very expensive ($100 from CPAP.com and came with free shipping and free return insurance -- and NO they cannot have it back.)

Don't know if that helps but, it is what I have experienced.

[chunkyfrog]

Isn't it a lovely thing when a mask is "perfect" for an individual?
--and a newbie at that! It's a cause for celebration!
Let us just be happy that there are more choices, more hope, and more people being helped.
I'm going to bed, now. Nighty night, sweeties.

[teleute]

My husband tried this for the first time, and he liked the fit of the pillows a lot better than the Nuance (the only other pillows he's tried). Those are completely round, and so they went into his nose at an uncomfortable angle. The P10's pillows are a bit more oval, and so had a more natural angle for him. No issues with the seal breaking when he moved, like with the Nuance.

However, the headgear was way too tight on him, and he ended up having to take it off after about 4 hours because his nose (and behind his ears) was really sore from the pressure. Guess we'll try stretching it out for a couple of days before he tries it again. Other than that, he very much liked the fit, though. We've moved his pressure up recently and the volume was starting to feel a bit high for him with the Wisp (even though his numbers support that it's a good pressure for him), but he said he didn't notice the volume of air bothering him nearly as much with the P10 as the Wisp, which is interesting.

The other weird thing was that everyone's talked about how quiet it is, but we both actually found it to be louder than the Wisp (the only other mask he's used for more than a few minutes). Is the Wisp just super duper quiet, or is there potentially something weird with our P10 that's making it louder than it should be, I wonder? But, his numbers were quite good, and the seal was good, so we'll definitely tweak and give it another try shortly.

[HerbM]

If the P10 is loud then it is likely leaking badly, broken, or defective.

While some other mask COULD be as quiet, it would have to be pretty much silent.

I have also notice that the natural place to put my fingers when unsnapping the pillows from the base is RIGHT ON the exhaust screen and damaging that has concerned me (haven't done that yet but taking it on and off for months could eventually do that through repetitive stress perhaps.)

For me, the one minor, minor issues if I am being picky is that though all 3 pillow sizes "work" for me, they all have different minor issues (to reach perfection).

Mainly I use the medium or large: The medium is more comfortable to wear, but my leak numbers go up a bit. The large is a LITTLE less comfortable and more likely to slip out and require repositioning. The large gives me "more air" and feels a TOUCH more comfortable to breath.

The above is really picky on my part. I am reaching for perfection here (but it's good to have goals.)

My leak numbers are never bad, so I am thinking to just go with the medium and perhaps either cut a SMALL sliver from the tip of the pillows to widen the holes OR turn up the pressure just a bit to get more air and better inflation to seal perhaps better.

Probably going to try the pressure move first, since that can be easily reversed.

BTW, when that pillows slips partially out the mask is noisy but I am presuming most people know what bad leaks sound like.

[teleute]

BTW, when that pillows slips partially out the mask is noisy but I am presuming most people know what bad leaks sound like.

Yeah, this definitely isn't a leak sounding noise. Sounds similar to the normal inhale/exhale Darth Vader-y sound from the other mask, but while that one is very quiet, this one is more noticeable. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say loud, but certainly louder. Leak numbers are very good as well, so shouldn't be a problem there.

[Pugsy]

I have used lots of nasal pillow masks an the P10 is so much more quiet than any of the others.

I have also use the Wisp..grand total of 90 minutes but I did go to sleep with it...if your Wisp is more quiet than the P10...you must have a very special Wisp.
Don't know what to tell you but your experience isn't going to be the norm.
Makes me want to come to your house to see what's going on

The headgear will stretch just a bit...mine did. I had the same thing happen to the Pilairo with their one size fits all headgear.
It took 2 or 3 days of use to get it to give a little more. It doesn't really stretch out as much as it just "gives" easier. IMHO

Though I do suspect for some people the one size fits all won't "give" enough to be comfortable for larger heads (depending on where you put the straps)...The Pilairo eventually was released with an adjustable strap if desired.
Maybe Resmed will do the same with the P10 if they get enough negative feedback about the head gear. It would be super easy to add a little velcro for more sizing variation.

[teleute]

Either a very special Wisp, or a very un-special P10. He's actually had two Wisps now, and they've been the same noise-wise.

He's likely at a relative extreme for headgear sizing - not only does he have a pretty darn large head, but he's got lots of very long hair, so it's a double whammy. Someone suggested putting it around something during the day to help it stretch/relax a bit more, so I think we'll try that next. Worst comes to worst we could probably just cut it open and insert a bit of elastic in to help with a bit more give.