CPAP Basics - 3

[jnk]

. . . PS
Class of '08, coming up on 5yrs.
Where is the party?

Are we all rid'n the D train into Downtown
and party the night away......
sleep hygiene be damned .

You motivated me to look it up. My first night on the hose at home was June 18 of that year. And I think your first night was only eight nights later, June 26, right?

Be assured that if you find yourself anywhere near Brooklyn in mid to late June this year, the first Brooklyn Lager (or ginger ale or bottled water or whatever) is on me at the establishment of your choice. Then maybe we can celebrate by riding Citi Bikes (http://citibikenyc.com/) around all day looking for NYC's version of the "Monkey Butt Piano Lounge"(viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41622&p=365723#p365723).

I appreciate your sticking here, CPAP brother. I always enjoy your posts. I hope you never hold back from making them.

-jeff

[Sheriff Buford]

Hello Todzo,

I'm not sure I am understanding completely. Do let me know if I'm off base.

My theory on humidification is that when the upper airway is taxed by an xPAP machine, it can react by swelling up and causing a restriction in flow. If you've been able to adapt without a humidifier, I think that's awesome. In your case nothing would need to be treated. In fact, we used to have a physician that only prescribed PAP machines without the heaters initially. If the patient complained, only then would it be added.

I agree with you about excessive breathing volumes, the lungs will draw that moisture. The question for the average user of xPAP would be, is that moisture being replenished adequately, or is the upper airway becoming irritated? And if irritated, is that resulting in a less than satisfactory night's rest?

Thanks for the post!

Jim

I'm gonna weigh in here, but I'm not going to get involved in the mud-slingin' or name callin'. I get enough of that at work.
I personally think people ought to see if they really need a humidifier. When mine broke a few years back, I went without one for almost a week, and I realized I didn't need it. I know some people need it for comfort or nasal issues. I am appealing to folks that don't really need it for comfort or nasal issues. If you are one of those folks, you don't have to worry about slinging water all over the place, buy distilled water or the cleaning required for "wet"surfaces" and wondering if your hose has gunk in it. Lots to consider.... ask yourself....

Just saying....

Sheriff

[49er]

Hello Todzo,

I'm not sure I am understanding completely. Do let me know if I'm off base.

My theory on humidification is that when the upper airway is taxed by an xPAP machine, it can react by swelling up and causing a restriction in flow. If you've been able to adapt without a humidifier, I think that's awesome. In your case nothing would need to be treated. In fact, we used to have a physician that only prescribed PAP machines without the heaters initially. If the patient complained, only then would it be added.

I agree with you about excessive breathing volumes, the lungs will draw that moisture. The question for the average user of xPAP would be, is that moisture being replenished adequately, or is the upper airway becoming irritated? And if irritated, is that resulting in a less than satisfactory night's rest?

Thanks for the post!

Jim

I'm gonna weigh in here, but I'm not going to get involved in the mud-slingin' or name callin'. I get enough of that at work.
I personally think people ought to see if they really need a humidifier. When mine broke a few years back, I went without one for almost a week, and I realized I didn't need it. I know some people need it for comfort or nasal issues. I am appealing to folks that don't really need it for comfort or nasal issues. If you are one of those folks, you don't have to worry about slinging water all over the place, buy distilled water or the cleaning required for "wet"surfaces" and wondering if your hose has gunk in it. Lots to consider.... ask yourself....

Just saying....

Sheriff

Thanks Sheriff. I actually did follow your advice as I think you had mentioned this previously. Unfortunately, I found that I did need it in spite of hoping that I didn't.

Anyway, good reminder for folks.

49er

[tooter]

Hello 49er,

Thanks for pointing that out.

When I first joined I had no link to my book in my signature line. While introducing myself I mentioned that I had written about the subject of CPAP and if anyone was interested, I would share the title. Though I was asked and did reveal it, my primary purpose was help people use their devices and maybe I would learn something as well. In my short time here by the way, I have decided to include a glossary.

Would I like to sell books? Sure, wouldn't any author? That however, isn't why I'm here. I think my posts speak for themselves.

I have responded to Tooter.

And mollete, I am again humbled. To be compared to the likes of Archimedes? Thanks ever so much!

Jim

Yes...Jim responded, but he didn't answer my question. It was a cop-out reply. I still don't think he works for a DME. I am looking for a new DME in the area and he refuses to tell me where his DME is located.

His reply...."I do work for a DME however, my company's views on providing CPAPs, supplies and services are, I'm afraid, very similar to what is typically identified here at CPAP talk. DME's, just like any company are mostly driven by profit, and the owner of mine is no different."

If profit was important...wouldn't they want more customers?

[49er]

Hello 49er,

Thanks for pointing that out.

When I first joined I had no link to my book in my signature line. While introducing myself I mentioned that I had written about the subject of CPAP and if anyone was interested, I would share the title. Though I was asked and did reveal it, my primary purpose was help people use their devices and maybe I would learn something as well. In my short time here by the way, I have decided to include a glossary.

Would I like to sell books? Sure, wouldn't any author? That however, isn't why I'm here. I think my posts speak for themselves.

I have responded to Tooter.

And mollete, I am again humbled. To be compared to the likes of Archimedes? Thanks ever so much!

Jim

Yes...Jim responded, but he didn't answer my question. It was a cop-out reply. I still don't think he works for a DME. I am looking for a new DME in the area and he refuses to tell me where his DME is located.

His reply...."I do work for a DME however, my company's views on providing CPAPs, supplies and services are, I'm afraid, very similar to what is typically identified here at CPAP talk. DME's, just like any company are mostly driven by profit, and the owner of mine is no different."

If profit was important...wouldn't they want more customers?

Wow Tooter, thanks for sharing that. That pretty much sums things up doesn't it?

49er

[Kiralynx]

(I be a) author..

So listen here Tolstoy, you might want to do a little editing, cause author's do NOT say

Most importantly

Yeah, and when correcting grammar, the plural of author is authors. "Author's" is the possessive of author.

I really don't understand the problem of the nay-sayers in this thread. While the original topic of this thread wasn't anything an experienced CPAPer might be interested in (or they might, given the advances in machines), it could be of use to a newbie.

[carbonman]

. . . PS
Class of '08, coming up on 5yrs.
Where is the party?

Are we all rid'n the D train into Downtown
and party the night away......
sleep hygiene be damned .

You motivated me to look it up. My first night on the hose at home was June 18 of that year. And I think your first night was only eight nights later, June 26, right?

I appreciate your sticking here, CPAP brother. I always enjoy your posts. I hope you never hold back from making them.

-jeff

JNK, you are correct sir.
I don't even want to wonder where I would be today w/out cpap.
And of course, there is no way I would have missed cpaptalk to
help me get here. What an amazing journey it has been.

I appreciate your sticking around, also. You are my contrast and my reflection.
I have no doubt that you influenced my trip to the MonkeyButt Piano Lounge.
I also doubt very much that we would find it in NYC......although, w/the
fantasies that I have about NYC.....it may be there.

I am finding my way out of the darkness.
Cpaptalk has been like a light house for me the past few months.
Something that was familiar and friendly and wasn't going away.

What an amazing trip it's been.

[mollete]

(I be a) author..

So listen here Tolstoy, you might want to do a little editing, cause author's do NOT say

Most importantly

Yeah, and when correcting grammar, the plural of author is authors. "Author's" is the possessive of author.

Begging your pardon k., but I think when you step off the platform you should make sure the train is still there.

[mollete]

Then maybe we can celebrate by riding Citi Bikes (http://citibikenyc.com/) around all day...

I don't suppose you kids are doing Bike New York this year, are you?

Although admittedly, the atmosphere is a little different.

Picture a sell-out crowd at Citi Field getting on their bikes and driving around Town.

[mollete]

Hello 49er,

Thanks for pointing that out.

When I first joined I had no link to my book in my signature line. While introducing myself I mentioned that I had written about the subject of CPAP and if anyone was interested, I would share the title. Though I was asked and did reveal it, my primary purpose was help people use their devices and maybe I would learn something as well. In my short time here by the way, I have decided to include a glossary.

Would I like to sell books? Sure, wouldn't any author? That however, isn't why I'm here. I think my posts speak for themselves.

I have responded to Tooter.

And mollete, I am again humbled. To be compared to the likes of Archimedes? Thanks ever so much!

Jim

Yes...Jim responded, but he didn't answer my question. It was a cop-out reply. I still don't think he works for a DME. I am looking for a new DME in the area and he refuses to tell me where his DME is located.

His reply...."I do work for a DME however, my company's views on providing CPAPs, supplies and services are, I'm afraid, very similar to what is typically identified here at CPAP talk. DME's, just like any company are mostly driven by profit, and the owner of mine is no different."

If profit was important...wouldn't they want more customers?

Wow Tooter, thanks for sharing that. That pretty much sums things up doesn't it?

49er

Now we must ask ourselves:

How does one know when a pathological liar is telling the truth?

[mollete]

But then how often does one have the honor of being given the moniker of "scumbag" in public.

But no one ever called you a scumbag, CB.

[SleepWellCPAP]

Hello mollete,

Your post has me a little confused.

It's not that I have never been called a scumbag. The point I made was "...how often does one have the honor" of being called that.

In one of your posts you pejoratively referred to me as Tolstoy. Though I was again quite flattered by such a suggestion, I am no Tolstoy. Leo Tolstoy of course the famous Russian writter who many know him by his novel "War and Peace". Interestingly enough, he also wrote short stories. Quite a dichotomy for sure.

Mollete, if you need be to reiterate anything else, please don't hesitate to ask. It is my pleasure to help all I can.

Have a great day!

Jim

[mollete]

Mollete, if you need be to reiterate anything else, please don't hesitate to ask. It is my pleasure to help all I can.

Thanks CB, but I think I'm good.

Yes...Jim responded, but he didn't answer my question. It was a cop-out reply. I still don't think he works for a DME. I am looking for a new DME in the area and he refuses to tell me where his DME is located.

His reply...."I do work for a DME however, my company's views on providing CPAPs, supplies and services are, I'm afraid, very similar to what is typically identified here at CPAP talk. DME's, just like any company are mostly driven by profit, and the owner of mine is no different."

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[Drowsy Dancer]

Hello 49er,

Thanks for pointing that out.

When I first joined I had no link to my book in my signature line. While introducing myself I mentioned that I had written about the subject of CPAP and if anyone was interested, I would share the title. Though I was asked and did reveal it, my primary purpose was help people use their devices and maybe I would learn something as well. In my short time here by the way, I have decided to include a glossary.

Would I like to sell books? Sure, wouldn't any author? That however, isn't why I'm here. I think my posts speak for themselves.

I have responded to Tooter.

And mollete, I am again humbled. To be compared to the likes of Archimedes? Thanks ever so much!

Jim

Yes...Jim responded, but he didn't answer my question. It was a cop-out reply. I still don't think he works for a DME. I am looking for a new DME in the area and he refuses to tell me where his DME is located.

His reply...."I do work for a DME however, my company's views on providing CPAPs, supplies and services are, I'm afraid, very similar to what is typically identified here at CPAP talk. DME's, just like any company are mostly driven by profit, and the owner of mine is no different."

If profit was important...wouldn't they want more customers?

Wow Tooter, thanks for sharing that. That pretty much sums things up doesn't it?

49er

It puts an interesting twist on this, no doubt.

[mollete]

His reply...."I do work for a DME however, my company's views on providing CPAPs, supplies and services are, I'm afraid, very similar to what is typically identified here at CPAP talk. DME's, just like any company are mostly driven by profit, and the owner of mine is no different."

If profit was important...wouldn't they want more customers?

Wow Tooter, thanks for sharing that. That pretty much sums things up doesn't it?

49er

It puts an interesting twist on this, no doubt.

I wonder if that's the motto of <Edited by Moderator>--


"DME's, just like any company are mostly driven by profit, and the owner of mine is no different"