CPAP Basics - 3

Stormynights · Post by **Stormynights** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:00 pm

Oops!

Todzo · Post by **Todzo** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:02 pm

Drowsy Dancer wrote:
49er wrote:
tooter wrote: If profit was important...wouldn't they want more customers?
Wow Tooter, thanks for sharing that. That pretty much sums things up doesn't it?

49er
It puts an interesting twist on this, no doubt.

Kinda seems like drug dealers vying for territory

Drowsy Dancer · Post by **Drowsy Dancer** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:05 pm

Todzo wrote:
Drowsy Dancer wrote:
49er wrote:
tooter wrote: If profit was important...wouldn't they want more customers?
Wow Tooter, thanks for sharing that. That pretty much sums things up doesn't it?

49er
It puts an interesting twist on this, no doubt.
Kinda seems like drug dealers vying for territory

Todzo, I'm not a DME, or associated in any way with the medical industry. I believe 49er to be similarly situated.

Todzo · Post by **Todzo** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:15 pm

Drowsy Dancer wrote:
Todzo wrote:
Drowsy Dancer wrote:
49er wrote:
tooter wrote: If profit was important...wouldn't they want more customers?
Wow Tooter, thanks for sharing that. That pretty much sums things up doesn't it?

49er
It puts an interesting twist on this, no doubt.
Kinda seems like drug dealers vying for territory
Todzo, I'm not a DME, or associated in any way with the medical industry. I believe 49er to be similarly situated.

I regret the confusion. I was not referring to you or 49er rather to those who have taken over this thread in a manner which destroys the neighborhood. I was agreeing with you.

Todzo · Post by **Todzo** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:22 pm

Sheriff Buford wrote:
SleepWellCPAP wrote:Hello Todzo,

I'm not sure I am understanding completely. Do let me know if I'm off base.

My theory on humidification is that when the upper airway is taxed by an xPAP machine, it can react by swelling up and causing a restriction in flow. If you've been able to adapt without a humidifier, I think that's awesome. In your case nothing would need to be treated. In fact, we used to have a physician that only prescribed PAP machines without the heaters initially. If the patient complained, only then would it be added.

I agree with you about excessive breathing volumes, the lungs will draw that moisture. The question for the average user of xPAP would be, is that moisture being replenished adequately, or is the upper airway becoming irritated? And if irritated, is that resulting in a less than satisfactory night's rest?

Thanks for the post!

Jim
I'm gonna weigh in here, but I'm not going to get involved in the mud-slingin' or name callin'. I get enough of that at work.
I personally think people ought to see if they really need a humidifier. When mine broke a few years back, I went without one for almost a week, and I realized I didn't need it. I know some people need it for comfort or nasal issues. I am appealing to folks that don't really need it for comfort or nasal issues. If you are one of those folks, you don't have to worry about slinging water all over the place, buy distilled water or the cleaning required for "wet"surfaces" and wondering if your hose has gunk in it. Lots to consider.... ask yourself....

Just saying....

Sheriff

Hi Sheriff,

If a person does not need humidification I think that xPAP is working well for them.

I think that those who must carefully adjust the humidifier to make the whole thing work likely have problems with breathing stability, perhaps day and night.

I am also suspicious that the breathing stability issues are exacerbated by xPAP and are medically dangerous.

Have a great week!

Todzo

avi123 · Post by **avi123** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:09 am

My friend who lives in Naples, Florida, during the summer months, knows a lot but keeps quiet to really relax there. Unnoticed.

mollete · Post by **mollete** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:47 am

Drowsy Dancer wrote:
Todzo wrote:
Drowsy Dancer wrote:
49er wrote:
tooter wrote: If profit was important...wouldn't they want more customers?
Wow Tooter, thanks for sharing that. That pretty much sums things up doesn't it?

49er
It puts an interesting twist on this, no doubt.
Kinda seems like drug dealers vying for territory
Todzo, I'm not a DME, or associated in any way with the medical industry. I believe 49er to be similarly situated.

I think he means DMEs are drug dealers.

tooter · Post by **tooter** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:45 am

avi123 wrote:My friend who lives in Naples, Florida, during the summer months, knows a lot but keeps quiet to really relax there. Unnoticed.

HUH???

mollete · Post by **mollete** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:48 am

tooter wrote:
avi123 wrote:My friend who lives in Naples, Florida, during the summer months, knows a lot but keeps quiet to really relax there. Unnoticed.
HUH???

Clearly, must have found one of the aforementioned drug dealers.

Drowsy Dancer · Post by **Drowsy Dancer** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:31 am

mollete wrote: I think he means DMEs are drug dealers.

Also an imperfect analogy, because I do not believe you are a DME in any event.

mollete · Post by **mollete** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:41 am

Drowsy Dancer wrote:
mollete wrote: I think he means DMEs are drug dealers.
Also an imperfect analogy, because I do not believe you are a DME in any event.

Correct.

I, in fact, can not sell anything, I can only give it away.

Which gives me an idea...

Drowsy Dancer · Post by **Drowsy Dancer** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:54 am

mollete wrote:
Drowsy Dancer wrote:
mollete wrote: I think he means DMEs are drug dealers.
Also an imperfect analogy, because I do not believe you are a DME in any event.
Correct.

I, in fact, can not sell anything, I can only give it away.

Which gives me an idea...

Oh, no, don't do that...

mollete · Post by **mollete** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:16 pm

Drowsy Dancer wrote:
mollete wrote:
Drowsy Dancer wrote:
mollete wrote: I think he means DMEs are drug dealers.
Also an imperfect analogy, because I do not believe you are a DME in any event.
Correct.

I, in fact, can not sell anything, I can only give it away.

Which gives me an idea...
Oh, no, don't do that...

What, this could be a GOOD idea!

mollete · Post by **mollete** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:18 pm

mollete wrote:
SleepWellCPAP wrote:Mollete, if you need be to reiterate anything else, please don't hesitate to ask. It is my pleasure to help all I can.
Thanks CB, but I think I'm good.

tooter wrote:Yes...Jim responded, but he didn't answer my question. It was a cop-out reply. I still don't think he works for a DME. I am looking for a new DME in the area and he refuses to tell me where his DME is located.

His reply...."I do work for a DME however, my company's views on providing CPAPs, supplies and services are, I'm afraid, very similar to what is typically identified here at CPAP talk. DME's, just like any company are mostly driven by profit, and the owner of mine is no different."
Did you try

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BTW, tooter, did you call up Gary?

Drowsy Dancer · Post by **Drowsy Dancer** » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:40 am

mollete wrote:
Drowsy Dancer wrote:Oh, no, don't do that...
What, this could be a GOOD idea!

Well, yes and no. Believe me, I understand its appeal, but I think that might go a little too far.

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