Strange dream and chest pain

[chunkyfrog]

Some people say that one way to identify cardiac pain is if it worsens with exertion.
Of course, the exertion can be the last straw; so not a good test if you are alone/far from an E.R.

[Julie]

And other people (doctors) say that symptoms in women are different from those men experience, that you can definitely have an attack without knowing it, and the damage that can occur as a result will certainly affect the future of your life and your heart. It is just not smart to ignore what happened and you must get follow up testing because you may need to be on medication, or something now, especially if you value a future for yourself or your family.

[chunkyfrog]

--Especially in diabetics.
My mother-in-law had back pain--it was her heart.

[DreamStalker]

Thanks I am doing fine it has not happened again. So I hope it was
Just caused by the bad dream I was having. But if it happens again
I will get it checked.

Could have been serious or maybe not. In either case, the body has an amazing ability to heal itself if you just let it. All it needs is good nutrition, good rest, and a positive mental outlook.

The US healthcare system on the other hand is pretty much dysfunctional, broken, and untrustworthy. It is set up for profit rather than healthcare. And because of this, more and more people are going without healthcare. Being without insurance sucks but keeping a safe distance from the broken healthcare system can also be a benefit. My advice is to learn to eat local fresh organic meats and vegetables and stay away from all corporatized toxins masquerading as processed food-like substances. Do not compromise on good restful sleep. Get out and move your body, walk, lift weights (yes women too), and build in physical activity wherever and whenever you can. Unless you have a known blood disorder, you should consider taking an 80mg enteric coated aspirin every morning. Learn to be aware of your body, always evaluate how you feel and try to correlate it to what you are doing regardless of whether you feel good, bad, or indifferent.

Glad that you decided to stick around ... this forum is truely a special place to learn of all things concerning your health and well being. Despite the fact that some members can be real assholes (myself included), the benefits of staying here to learn far outweighs leaving over getting your feelings hurt.

[BlackSpinner]

Thanks I am doing fine it has not happened again. So I hope it was
Just caused by the bad dream I was having. But if it happens again
I will get it checked.

That is truly stupid if you are responsible for other people.
You need to get it checked NOW. You may need medication to help heal the damage done or to prevent the damage from slowly getting worse, just like a badly set break, just because it stopped hurting doesn't mean everything is ok.

[DreamStalker]

Thanks I am doing fine it has not happened again. So I hope it was
Just caused by the bad dream I was having. But if it happens again
I will get it checked.

That is truly stupid if you are responsible for other people.
You need to get it checked NOW. You may need medication to help heal the damage done or to prevent the damage from slowly getting worse, just like a badly set break, just because it stopped hurting doesn't mean everything is ok.

I disagree. The pharmaceutical industry is severely over-rated and the health industry is broken mostly because of the pharmaceutical industry influence over modern medicine. Sure, if you are indeed having a heart attack, go to the ER. Sure, if you suspect a heart condition AND you have insurance and/or plenty of cash on hand, it wouldn't hurt to go in and get checked out.

But as the OP stated, both insurance and income are limiting her options. Alternatives to traditional medicine must be pursued. To heal damaged myocardial tissue and prevent further damage, a low-carb diet of FRESH meats and veggies, moderate exercise, and good rest will go a long way. Add the baby aspirin and perhaps some Coenzyme Q10 supplements and that will take the healing/prevention further still and then do some stress relief activities ... and you will actually heal better and safer than an expensive drug induced medical boondoggle.

[BlackSpinner]

I disagree. The pharmaceutical industry is severely over-rated and the health industry is broken mostly because of the pharmaceutical industry influence over modern medicine. Sure, if you are indeed having a heart attack, go to the ER. Sure, if you suspect a heart condition AND you have insurance and/or plenty of cash on hand, it wouldn't hurt to go in and get checked out.

But as the OP stated, both insurance and income are limiting her options. Alternatives to traditional medicine must be pursued. To heal damaged myocardial tissue and prevent further damage, a low-carb diet of FRESH meats and veggies, moderate exercise, and good rest will go a long way. Add the baby aspirin and perhaps some Coenzyme Q10 supplements and that will take the healing/prevention further still and then do some stress relief activities ... and you will actually heal better and safer than an expensive drug induced medical boondoggle.

Truly abysmally stupid. "The physician who treats himself has a fool for a patient"

If she chooses to ignore most of the other posters she is putting her dependents at risk. Anyone in their situation is not going to be able to afford the kind of diet you are suggesting, especially since she doesn't have a diagnosis by a qualified medical practitioner. Making the choice to ignore both medically qualified diagnosis and treatment is irresponsible.

[DreamStalker]

I disagree. The pharmaceutical industry is severely over-rated and the health industry is broken mostly because of the pharmaceutical industry influence over modern medicine. Sure, if you are indeed having a heart attack, go to the ER. Sure, if you suspect a heart condition AND you have insurance and/or plenty of cash on hand, it wouldn't hurt to go in and get checked out.

But as the OP stated, both insurance and income are limiting her options. Alternatives to traditional medicine must be pursued. To heal damaged myocardial tissue and prevent further damage, a low-carb diet of FRESH meats and veggies, moderate exercise, and good rest will go a long way. Add the baby aspirin and perhaps some Coenzyme Q10 supplements and that will take the healing/prevention further still and then do some stress relief activities ... and you will actually heal better and safer than an expensive drug induced medical boondoggle.

Truly abysmally stupid. "The physician who treats himself has a fool for a patient"

If she chooses to ignore most of the other posters she is putting her dependents at risk. Anyone in their situation is not going to be able to afford the kind of diet you are suggesting, especially since she doesn't have a diagnosis by a qualified medical practitioner. Making the choice to ignore both medically qualified diagnosis and treatment is irresponsible.

Well at least I'm a live irresponsible fool who manages my health better than the physicians who tried (unsuccessfully) to treat me

And anyone who thinks that drugs are less expensive than fresh food is fundamentally the stupidest ...

But what do I know? ... I'm just the forum fool.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/katies-take ... 29072.html

Foolish physician ... imagine that, to even suggest that ... "The keys to leading a heart-healthy lifestyle include exercising, eating well, not smoking, getting enough sleep, and reducing stress."

What is the medical industry coming to ... and with mainstream media propaganda to boot.

[kteague]

I find myself agreeing with points at both ends of the spectrum. I do think meds are often not in the best interest of the patient and more natural means can be a healthier treatment option (and always a good approach whether as the sole or as an adjunct treatment). Ideally though one should know exactly what the problem is before making decisions about treatment. I know a young man who had a heart attack and it was discovered he had a very enlarged heart, and was told he only had 35% heart function and that he would never regain the lost function. Along with the mainstream medical treatment, his cousin, a holistic doctor, put him on a healthy regimen that included supplements like CoQ10. Last I heard he had 65% heart function and was out doing odd jobs on a part time basis. Had he relied solely on mainstream treatment with pharmaceuticals, even his doctors offered no hope of any degree of recovery. I have to believe his cousin's approach made the difference.

A body does have an amazing ability to heal itself when given what it needs to work with. But there are situations when immediate intervention is the best solution. It would be nice to know what we're dealing with before making that serious of a decision.

[BCampbell]

I have been thinking today about making an appoitmen with my regular
Dr. But right now I feel fine it has not happened again. So I wonder
If it is a little to late to go now after all I seem fine. Now

[lazer]

I have been thinking today about making an appoitmen with my regular
Dr. But right now I feel fine it has not happened again. So I wonder
If it is a little to late to go now after all I seem fine. Now

Go to the appointment. Its not too late to check things out and discover if any damage.

[kaiasgram]

I have been thinking today about making an appoitmen with my regular
Dr. But right now I feel fine it has not happened again. So I wonder
If it is a little to late to go now after all I seem fine. Now

BCampbell, I don't believe it is too late -- at an office visit with your regular doctor they should be able do a quick in-office ECG. They hook you up for just a few seconds and the printout they get can often detect if there has been a recent cardiac event. It's not drugs or invasive procedures and while it falls short of a thorough cardiac workup -- and doesn't pick up non-cardiac problems that might be going on -- it would be important information one way or the other. I encourage you to go ahead with the appointment. The fact that this is still on your mind and you're thinking about making an appointment tells me it's important.

[Julie]

GO GO GO GO GO GO!!!

[BCampbell]

I finally made any appoitment but it is not until. Next Monday
At 11:15 that is my next day off. I am a mobile groomer and my book
Is full Saturday Even the girl who makes appointments acted like
She was not sure I needed the appoitment and I had to talk to the drs
Nurse to get an appoitment.

[ChicagoGranny]

I had a very strange night last night. I was dreaming I could not breath and
That i was shaking very hard. In the dream I could not catch my breath
I was breathing very fast. When I woke up my cat was on my chest
She never does that. She sleeps on a pillow behind my head It felt
Like I had a weight on my chest. My mask was leaking air a lot. I don't
Know if the pain was from the dream. Or the dream a warning of the
Pain it tool several minutes to get the pain to stop. I can't get it out
Of my head. I am a little worried about going to sleep tonight.

All dreams are strange in one way or the other.

Your mask was leaking heavily so there may not have been enough pressure and you were having apneas.

You might breathe fast because of the apneas and the dream.

You felt like there was a weight on your chest. It was - the cat! Remember?

Pain suddenly enters your post without explaining where the pain was or what it felt like.

Everything sounds normal for someone with sleep apnea, a leaky mask and a pesky cat.

Very surprised that people are screaming at you to rush to a hospital. Big overreaction in the forum IMO.