Resmed ResScan™ 3.13 for S9 VPAP Auto

[StevenXXXX]

Ozij said: This part of the S9's reporting capabilities hasn't been clinically validated at a level that justifies reporting it formally - what if a US doctor sues ResMed in the US with a "you made me think that this means XXX and now it turns out you didn't test it properly.

That is exactly the point I was thinking of.

Do you know if those capabilities are allowed on other machines that maybe ResMed thinks are better able to correctly handle deriving that information?

Do you know if some have had problems with the information derived by the workaround not being correct?

I am for getting all of the information out of a machine that is possible, but I wonder if this may be taking it too far if the S9 is not capable of correctly providing that information.

[this_is_nascar]

Registration link??? Help?? I'm confused.... I want to re-download 3.13 just in case my version has corrupt data,

Same here. Don't know what the "registration link" is and the direct link is not working. Please help.

[Breathe Jimbo]

The download link is not working. Is the software available somewhere else?

[bayourest]

Seems like the link to the ResScan 3.13 is not working.
Could someone PM me if you have a way to get it?
I was using 3.12 but switched to a new computer and now I can't seem to get the download to work.
many thanks

[ozij]

Ozij said: This part of the S9's reporting capabilities hasn't been clinically validated at a level that justifies reporting it formally - what if a US doctor sues ResMed in the US with a "you made me think that this means XXX and now it turns out you didn't test it properly.

That is exactly the point I was thinking of.

Do you know if those capabilities are allowed on other machines that maybe ResMed thinks are better able to correctly handle deriving that information?
[/quit]
ResScan is used for all kinds of ResMed machines - some even ventilators. You can see on the xml file for which machines the info is enabled and for which not.

Do you know if some have had problems with the information derived by the workaround not being correct?

I don't know, and have no way of knowing the reply to that question.

I am for getting all of the information out of a machine that is possible, but I wonder if this may be taking it too far if the S9 is not capable of correctly providing that information.

I believe we each do our own validation study for each machine we use and its reporting capabilities. For me that study, of my data in my typical surrounding, is far more important than something averaging the results of other people. I am satisfied that the this machine reports reasonably valid data for me - valid enough to help me make good decisions about my therapy -- and that's all I need as far as "correctness" is concerned.

In my comment, I was thinking more of a ResMed need to keep all body parts nice an warm in a medically litigious society - and that is not the same as providing reliable and valid data to users.

But that was only one of 3 possible explantions I suggested. The others may be just a correct, or just as wrong, as this one...

[jeja]

hi all,
\new to the site. Fantastic info gained in several days of reading. I have a resmed s7 (11 setting) and am waiting to get the results of my sleep test from several weeks ago. After 6 years, time to upgrade the old machine to an S9. Downloaded the software but am getting a 1317 error on install (cannot create c:\users\public\documents file) I use vista. Any help would be appreciated thx

John

[DreamDiver]

... I can think of 3: ...

My money is on FDA approval. Firmware is probably frozen at the time of approval, and if clinical validation for some of the measurements was not finished in time for that, well, hiding it is easier. A fourth possibility is that Respiration Rate & Tidal Volume may not be considered useful enough for simple CPAP/APAP machines. Does either of these appear in graphs for the System One? Perhaps they'll show up on the S9 VPAP, VPAP AUTO, VPAP Adapt, VPAP S, and VPAP ST.

[Uncle_Bob]

Resmed changed the path along with the filename this time

grab it while you can

[360]

If I'm downloading via a SD reader on my computer do I need to download the drivers for:

USB Direct Connection
USB Adapter
Data Card Reader

[BernieRay]

360 - I posted an answer to that in your thread about not being able reading data from the card. Also, installing 3.13 on top of your 3.12 installation probably won't help your problem.

As to respiratory rate and tidal volume...

I can think of 3:

1. Nobody told the ResScan programmers that this option had been enabled on S9's -- they still think it's something for the future.
2. This part of the S9's reporting capabilities hasn't been clinically validated at a level that justifies reporting it formally - what if a US doctor sues ResMed in the US with a "you made me think that this means XXX and now it turns out you didn't test it properly"
3. It has been validated, but if they add it formally, the device will no longer be considered by some bureaucrat to be the equivalent of an older device -- and then getting 510 (k) clearance based on device equivalence from the FDA in the US would have been more complicated.

... I can think of 3: ...

My money is on FDA approval. Firmware is probably frozen at the time of approval, and if clinical validation for some of the measurements was not finished in time for that, well, hiding it is easier. A fourth possibility is that Respiration Rate & Tidal Volume may not be considered useful enough for simple CPAP/APAP machines. Does either of these appear in graphs for the System One? Perhaps they'll show up on the S9 VPAP, VPAP AUTO, VPAP Adapt, VPAP S, and VPAP ST.

It's much simpler than any of this, though I must give you both gold stars for creative thinking! I meant to post this days ago, but I forgot about it until UB's last post brought the thread back up.

Minute ventilation is calculated by multiplying respiratory rate by the tidal volume. For any xPAP software to show minute ventilation, these two data points must be collected.

They may simply be hiding them because clinicians and doctors find minute ventilation more useful for tx of simple OSA. These data points may, however, be useful to see when treating more complex SDs when using the more advanced xPAP therapies. If so, that could explain why these graphs are defined in ResScan, but turned off for the S9 machines. Regardless, it isn't an issue of validation, regulatory approval, or acceptance. If that was the case, we wouldn't see minute ventilation either.

[dkeat]

Greetings

Just got a new S9 and as a result was interested in finding out if it was possible to get a copy of Resview. The CPAP.com shop doesn't seem to have it available and then I found Uncle Bob's posting. Much appreciated for sure! I downloaded it and have a few issues and thought maybe someone might be able to give me a hand. First of all the software is displaying in German. I assume it read the location of my pc and displayed accordingly. Normally there is an "option" to set the language to another but I wasn't able to find it. If anyone has a clue?

The other thing is that when I started the program I got this error:

intf!=0 @
C:\PROGRA~1\Borland\CBuild~1\Bin\..\include\vcl\UtilCls.H/2868
Press [Y]es to terminate, [N]o to continue and [C]ancel to debug

I haven't a clue what it means. I hit [N] and the program loaded. I have an SD slot on my notebook and tried to export the data on my SD card to the program but it didn't recognize my SD slot. Does the program only work with one of the Resmed card reader devices or is there some way to get it to read from my SD slot?

So that's where I stand on this at the moment. If anyone can help with any of these issues it would be wonderful.

Oh, and as far as I was able to determine the latest version of Resview is 3.7. Is it impossible as an unlicensed and uninitiated human to get a hold of it?

[AlysiaHaglero]

@OP: hey, thanks. Nice topic, i have been searching these info for ages.

[Pugsy]

sorry, can't help with this question but bumping it for others to see.
If no response and you haven't got things sorted out you might start a new topic addressing your problem. It will get more attention and not get lost in this thread.

[jerryjo2006]

Uncle Bob, the ResScan 3.13 won't install on my Win 7 64 bit system

[mstevens]

Uncle Bob, the ResScan 3.13 won't install on my Win 7 64 bit system

It installed just fine for me on two different 64-bit Windows 7 systems.

"Won't install" includes a massive range of problems. It might help if you were to be more descriptive about exactly what steps you are taking and exactly what happens, including details of any error messages.