Getting a new machine. Update

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Getting a new machine. Update

Post by drj130 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:03 am

Greetings to everyone. While I was out in the field the other day playing Soldier, my machine was dropped and turned upside down. Water got into it from the chamber and now, it is dead. I will be getting a new machine and I know of three choices I'm thinking about. The PR-1, the S9, and the Icon. I know that there are a few here who use the first two, and can provide the pros and cons of them both (please do), I'm wondering if anyone uses the Icon? The biggest question on that would be, where to get the software.

Thanks for the help,

David

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by Hueffenhardt » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:30 am

Good luck on finding the software for the ICON. There are a number of posters looking/asking for it. A few are trying to get a copy from their DME or doctor and/or asking CPAP.com about it. As of yet there is not a copy of it being passed around that I know of.

I did some research into the ICON Auto and posted some highlights here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59028&p=556858
I think it is a good machine, but to tell you the truth, after all the research I've done, I am leaning towards getting the S9 AutoSet w/ H5i humidifier and climateline hose.

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by ozij » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:41 am

Dave,
If I was you -- and busy playing soldier -- I'd go with the tried and true -- that would be the Respironics, since you know you do well with it.

Resmed's software is easily downloudable, and has been for months -- so I don't think this should be an issue in when you consider that machine.

O.

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by drj130 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:46 am

Thanks for the link Hueffenhardt. I think that I'm going to go with the S9. Software is easy to find, many have it, and it is compact. It will fit into my pelican case that I use to transport my machine. At least it looks like it will. Again thanks for the info.

I also made sure that my doctor, who asked me what the script needed to say, stated an APAP on it, so I should be good in that department as well .

Going to send my DME here the needed paperwork, shouldn't take too long I hope for me to get the new machine.

David

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by drj130 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:50 am

ozij wrote:Dave,
If I was you -- and busy playing soldier -- I'd go with the tried and true -- that would be the Respironics, since you know you do well with it.

Resmed's software is easily downloudable, and has been for months -- so I don't think this should be an issue in when you consider that machine.

O.
Ozij, the only problem with going with the Respironics, is some of the issues that others reported when it first came out. Now granted those should be fixed by now, and I'm sure that my travel stuff for my old one might work with it. My DME already informed me that they couldn't get the current one that I do have, so I figured that I'd branch out and try something different. I like the heated hose that the S9 comes with. Might help me sleep better. I do ok with the Respironics, but i'm still not getting the sleep that I should be. At least I don't think so.

David

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by SleepyCPAP » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:55 am

Hi drj130,
my machine was dropped and turned upside down. Water got into it from the chamber and now, it is dead.
Respironics worked hard to figure out how to build the PRS1 so this would not happen again. If you think your machine might be dropped again, that's a definite plus with the System One from Respironics.

Whatever you choose, you've got good machines on your pick list.

EDIT: I see you're going with S9. If you are the type that wants data, please be sure you're getting the Autoset and not the Escape Auto (which I've heard does not present all data).

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by drj130 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:59 am

SleepyCPAP wrote:Hi drj130,
my machine was dropped and turned upside down. Water got into it from the chamber and now, it is dead.
Respironics worked hard to figure out how to build the PRS1 so this would not happen again. If you think your machine might be dropped again, that's a definite plus with the System One from Respironics.

Whatever you choose, you've got good machines on your pick list.

EDIT: I see you're going with S9. If you are the type that wants data, please be sure you're getting the Autoset and not the Escape Auto (which I've heard does not present all data).
That is one of the things I'll ensure that they understand. I think that the PRS1 is bigger than the old M series, but I'm not sure. can you confirm this?

David

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by SleepyCPAP » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:01 am

David, you asked:
I think that the PRS1 is bigger than the old M series, but I'm not sure. can you confirm this?
The combined CPAP and humidifiers compare roughly as follows (I used a ruler, not manufacturer's numbers):
M-Series: 8.5" deep x 8.25" wide x 3.75 high (allow for 2.5" more space at back for hose hook up)
PRS1: 7" deep x 10.75 wide x 4" high (allow for 2.5" for height clearance for hose hook up on top)

It made no sense to take the humidifier apart from the CPAP on the M-Series when traveling, due to the "floor" that the humidifier attachment has for the CPAP to rest upon. If you need to do it with the PRS1 you can try packing the two pieces apart, perhaps on their sides for example, there is no "floor" spanning the two. The S9 attachment side-by-side looks about the same as PRS1.

I think you'll find the S9 with humidifier is shaped much the same as the PRS1 (except leave clearance at the back for the hose connection on the S9). Look at sleepnationTV videos online, they have an early side-by-side comparison.

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by amos » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:27 am

David,

I just wanted to say that it is good to hear from you. Other than dropping your cpap machine, I trust that all is going well with you.

amos

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by drj130 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:40 am

amos wrote:David,

I just wanted to say that it is good to hear from you. Other than dropping your cpap machine, I trust that all is going well with you.

amos
Yeah, other than that, and my sore through and no voice, i'm good

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by GumbyCT » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:49 am

SleepyCPAP wrote:Hi drj130,
my machine was dropped and turned upside down. Water got into it from the chamber and now, it is dead.
Respironics worked hard to figure out how to build the PRS1 so this would not happen again. If you think your machine might be dropped again, that's a definite plus with the System One from Respironics.

Whatever you choose, you've got good machines on your pick list.
David,
Echoing what Amos said, it is good to hear from you. Now to ask the burning question everyone is thinking -
"What/Why was your machine packed for travel with water in it?"

Again you have all good choices and can get all the help you need right here.

Good Luck

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by drj130 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:52 am

GumbyCT wrote:
SleepyCPAP wrote:Hi drj130,
my machine was dropped and turned upside down. Water got into it from the chamber and now, it is dead.
Respironics worked hard to figure out how to build the PRS1 so this would not happen again. If you think your machine might be dropped again, that's a definite plus with the System One from Respironics.

Whatever you choose, you've got good machines on your pick list.
David,
Echoing what Amos said, it is good to hear from you. Now to ask the burning question everyone is thinking -
"What/Why was your machine packed for travel with water in it?"

Again you have all good choices and can get all the help you need right here.

Good Luck
it wasn't packed up for traveling. it was sitting on my cot, moving from one building to another. the sleeping bag fell off the cot, and when I seen the machine, it was upside down and flooded.

David

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by GumbyCT » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:20 am

Apparently that was exactly why Respironics re-designed the water chamber. I know I have mentioned this before but feel it is worth mentioning again here. IF water spills into your cpap it won't cause damage unless or until it gets plugged in.

So if it is plugged in - UNPLUG it immediately. AVOID the urge to turn it on to see if it works until the cpap is completely dry inside. IF that takes 2 or 3 days it is prob faster than you could get a new one from your DME. IF you know how to disassemble it to dry out the electronics then do it. BUT it must not have a drop of water left inside when you do power it on.

It is the water AND electric power together which will fry your machine.

Which brings up the next question David - what will you be using tonite? Or lastnite?

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by drj130 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:31 am

Last night and tonight, and until I get my new machine, I'm using my M Series APAP. It was my M Series CPAP that was flooded. It has been sitting for 2 days now and still has water coming out of it. I have permission to get a new machine because of this, so now I just have to decide what I want. Features on both the PRS1 and the S9 look good. The problem that I'm having is deciding. I think that we all have that problem when it comes to getting a new machine. I'm kind of leaning towards the S9, because of the heated hose and some of the other features. What kind of bites is that nothing I have now, will work with the PRS1. At least I was smart and told the PA to put APAP on the script.

David

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Re: Getting a new machine.

Post by GumbyCT » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:49 am

drj130 wrote:What kind of bites is that nothing I have now, will work with the PRS1.
Or the S9. I was going to mention that before but didn't want to be the dark cloud. How about your mask? Does that count? IF you had an HC 150 that would work with either machine.

It is good that at least you have a machine

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