What does that have to do with her comments?roster wrote:BlackSpinner wrote:
Yes you only have to read the history of Victorian Unionism to see that. There was a reason for the union movement (and socialism) If you don't want to read history just read Dickens. Most of today's regulations come about over the dead bodies of worker and consumers to temper the greed of corporations and individuals.
Why do you leave out the government? The government was in a very primitive state of denying individual rights at that time. Males who did not own property could not vote. Women could not vote, sue, or own property.
In divorces, men always took custody of the children. In cases of adultery, a husband only had to prove his wife's adultery. A woman had to prove her husband had not only committed adultery but also incest, bigamy, cruelty or desertion. This was the state of government regulation.
Homosexuality was illegal. Homosexual acts were a capital offence until 1861.
roster wrote: Wikipedia has a nice summary paragraph that says a lot about free markets:
"The Elite class" operated as a government. This government had control over the market.The Victorian Era began with the elite in total control of society and its politics. The Elite class was made up of 300 families which were firmly established as the traditional ruling class. However, the development of new types of values, such as individualism, introduced changes throughout the Victorian Era. The idea of the self-made man became dominant in the middle class. Similar to the American Dream, the idea is that, if they work hard enough, all men can become wealthy.
The great gains of the Victorian era were the move toward a government that protected individual rights and that included the right to own a business, run it as you see fit, and compete in a free market.
The freeing up of markets during the Victoran age was an early and important step in the globalization of free markets that led to the greatest prosperity in world history. A prosperity in which we still live today. A prosperity in which individuals refuse to work in bad conditions and refuse to let their children work at all. Only through the prosperity brought by free markets and capitalism have we arrived at this position.
Yes, we do need limited government to protect our rights and in the U.S. we are very fortunate to have an established Republic with a God-inspired Constitution to protect us from the government. Now we need to elect leaders who take their oath to the Constitution seriously.
Everyday we vote "for" or "against" individual businesses with our dollars. Please go to the voting booth and vote to keep this inalienable right. Government has control of politics, if government also gets control of the economy, tyranny follows quickly.
And today's "Elite class" are the corporate CEOs and they control the so called "free-market" through OUR government.
Our constitution works fine if people would just go out and vote without influence from corporate media advertisements and vote from the ground up (ie. local politics influences the upper levels of politics) and vote independent of political party.
Everyday, our vote gets diluted with corporate business dollars. Please do go to the voting booth and vote for candidates (not political parties who get their funding from corporations). Corporations have control of OUR government, the future threat of tyranny will be from the corporate oligarchy -- free-markets imply survival of the fittest -- A God-inspired "do unto others before they do unto you" -- and corporations can do a whole lot more to you than you can do to them ... just ask the "small people" along the northern Gulf Coast.
