General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
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roster
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by roster » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:01 pm
jabman wrote:While I find all this polictal bickering real exciting and would love to join in , I must return this back (some what) to the OP topic with a question.
I am not sure that I fully understand this post since I am in a constant fog. I am wondering how all this will affect me getting a CPAP machine through my ins. I was looking real close at a S8 Elite. (I'm not 100% sure that I will even need to get one yet but am doing research just in case.)
IMO, make sure you get a machine that is "fully data-capable" and that you can get the software for the machine. Beyond that, shop and negotiate for the lowest total cost to you.
Government regulations have distorted both the insurance and medical devices market, so you are likely to encounter much more difficulty choosing and purchasing a CPAP machine that suits you than you would in choosing and purchasing a DVR, widescreen TV, and desktop computer.
More advice:
Questions to ask about your PSG and Titration Study
by CPAPtalk member rooster
1. Did I have any central apneas? How many?
2. Were there any comorbidities? What were they?
3. Did I breathe or leak through my mouth? How often? What do you recommend to prevent it?
3. Did I exhibit Positional Sleep Apnea (PSA)? Was my apnea more severe in one sleeping position as compared to others? Is my pressure requirement higher in one position as compared to others? (Often sleep apnea is more severe when sleeping on the back.)
4. Is there anything else unusual about the results?
5. How will I know my therapy is preventing apneas?
6. I am determined to own a data-capable machine and software to monitor apneas, hypopneas and mask leak. This will allow me to call your office with specific questions if I have problems with the therapy. Will you help me with the appropriate prescription?
In addition to the questions:
1. Get a copy of your PSG. It is your legal right to have one.
2. Get a copy of your CPAP prescription.
3. Make sure the prescription calls for a humidifier with the machine.
wiki/index.php/Sleep_study
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by jabman » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:20 pm
IMO, make sure you get a machine that is "fully data-capable" and that you can get the software for the machine. Beyond that, shop and negotiate for the lowest total cost to you
Thanks for the advice roster, I have read other places to get the "fully data-capable" machine's that is why i was looking at S8 Elite. Can you point me to where I can read more about the "fully data-capable" machine's and there software?
On another note my funds are limited right now so i have to rely on my ins. for my machine but I fight for one that is"fully data-capable". From all that I have read thaht is the was to go.
I would like to know more about the Software pare of these machines, how and where to get them, dose ins. usally cover it, that type of stuff.
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by Julie » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:23 pm
Look on Cpap.com - you'll find straight Cpap's and Auto's and everything else, with long explanations, reviews, pix, etc.
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by roster » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:30 pm
jabman wrote:IMO, make sure you get a machine that is "fully data-capable" and that you can get the software for the machine. Beyond that, shop and negotiate for the lowest total cost to you
Thanks for the advice roster, I have read other places to get the "fully data-capable" machine's that is why i was looking at S8 Elite. Can you point me to where I can read more about the "fully data-capable" machine's and there software?
On another note my funds are limited right now so i have to rely on my ins. for my machine but I fight for one that is"fully data-capable". From all that I have read thaht is the was to go.
I would like to know more about the Software pare of these machines, how and where to get them, dose ins. usally cover it, that type of stuff.
I like studying the machine literature at this link (owners of cpaptalk.com)
https://www.cpap.com/ .
Look for machines that have software options, such as Respironics EncoreViewer Software.
Some other manufacturers (the dirty rats) have software that is sold only to medical professionals.
When you think you have found a machine that fits your needs, start a post and ask questions to make sure you are getting everything you want.
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by Slinky » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:28 pm
The software is available for other manufacturers' CPAPs even if only professional versions and not publicly for sale. Including Resmed's ResScan. All it takes is asking the question in this and other forums and someone will PM you w/advice on where to obtain a copy. ResScan is also available "by or on the order of a physician".
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by jabman » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:49 pm
Thank you all for your help.
How do I tell if the machine I am looking at on cpap.com is fully data capable?
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by torontoCPAPguy » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:32 pm
Roman Hokie wrote:Rooster wrote:The great gains of the Victorian era were the move toward a government that protected individual rights and that included the right to own a business, run it as you see fit, and compete in a free market.
BlackSpinner wrote:Um well that existed under the Romans you know,( I think even Jesus had something to say about it happening in the temple), and during medieval times - even women could run businesses under the "sole femme" rulings.
The reason that Jesus turned the tables in the Jewish Temple had nothing to do with the government. The Israelite government at the time permitted the money-changers. After all, they stood to gain by the practice. They were the religious elite, which, at that time, were the government. In ancient Israel (if memory serves - from reading, not from being there, LOL), the Kings could not be Priests and vice versa. But in Jesus's time (500 years into the Exile), there was no King on the throne. So the people were ruled by the religious class (Pharisees, mostly). Jesus's temper flared because of what the "religious" were doing to his Father's house, even quoting Scripture to say so.
As for women running businesses in medieval times, I can't speak to that.
I've always wondered how he was as a carpenter.
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by Roman Hokie » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:42 pm
I'm not sure how he was a carpenter other than sons of tradesmen during that time followed in their father's footsteps. I'm not sure if Josephus or other Jewish historians have recorded he was a carpenter. People seem to think he was poor. I'm also not sure of that either. After all, until he was 30, he was a tradesman. Not like he spent all his time chasing sheep or something.
Legit question, man.
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by rested gal » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:59 pm
jabman wrote:Thank you all for your help.
How do I tell if the machine I am looking at on cpap.com is fully data capable?
Check it out here:
My list of machines that record "full data" (AHI and leak info) and those that don't -- updated through March 2010:
viewtopic.php?p=307168#p307168
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