Adrenal Fatigue

[pb5927317]

Ugh. Anyway, that is where I am now. I still think it is adrenal fatigue and thyroid (Wilson's Temperature Syndrome) but I owe it to myself to check out any logical avenue the docs think up even though it is a pain and a hassle. Especially since those two things aren't recognized by modern medicine. Someday soon I hope to feel normal again. I'm tired of being the patient.

Jen[/quote]


Jen,

I actually had an initial diagnoses of Hodgkins because of a elevated white blood cell count. Once they got my adrenal fatigue under control, mysteriously, I was cured of cancer. Pretty scary that I could have been nuked 16 times and it was something totally different.

Wonder how many people are mis-diagnosed?

Pat

[timbalionguy]

Socknister, glad to hear you are doing better. What an amazing arraay of vitamins you are taking! But I can't find fault if it is working. I am wondering if you can overcome this syndrome for a while, if it won't become easier to stay healthy.

The mention of endocrinologists brings back memories of an endocrinologist I met a few years back who was also an animal lover. She told us about 'lion cub therapy' she used to help a very sick patient. The patient eventually died, but regular contact with the lion cubs extended her life and reduced her suffering!

[socknitster]

Yes, thyroid is fasting. Calcium and iron block each other AND thyroid, so it all has to be separated. Also calcium can help sleep, so makes sense to take then. I take omega3's throughout the day to maximize absorption. As for the probiotic--that is the idea! Though taking it with oatmeal would also be good--perfect substrate!

[socknitster]

No autoimmune. Trying to replenish iodine--I believe I have been deficient. Traditional Japanese average daily consumption of iodine is what iodoral is based on. After a few months I intend on switching to kelp at a lower dose.

[socknitster]

Jen,

I actually had an initial diagnoses of Hodgkins because of a elevated white blood cell count. Once they got my adrenal fatigue under control, mysteriously, I was cured of cancer. Pretty scary that I could have been nuked 16 times and it was something totally different.

Wonder how many people are mis-diagnosed?

Pat

Pat,

What did you do to alleviate your adrenal fatigue? The two herbs that seemed to be helping me the most don't agree with me, and they are the ones that are most commonly used--ashwaghanda gives me headaches and licorice makes my blood pressure soar. I would like to try low dose cortisol for a short course, but I don't know if my doc will go for that. Having to stop the licorice has been a setback for me. I was feeling much better on it and functioning better, less pain, less fatigue.

My hematologist has been testing me for everything she can think of and wants to do a bone marrow biopsy. I do NOT want to go there--the stress would be too much and I'm sure it would be a huge setback and I feel fairly certain that this adrenal fatigue is the cause of the high white count, so I think it is fairly safe to hold off on that test indefinitly.

I'm just at a complete loss at what to do next. I'm so tired of feeling this way. Any advice you could offer would be welcome.

jen

[fiberfan]

licorice makes my blood pressure soar. ...clip ... Having to stop the licorice has been a setback for me.

Have you tried deglycyrrhizinated licorice? Deglycyrrhizinated licorice doesn't always work as well as regular licorice but it might be worth a try. I have interesting reactions to things so I would recommend checking blood pressure as it might be something besides the glycyrrhizin that was raising your blood pressure. I have had allergic reactions that included a significant raise of blood pressure - 2 of those reactions were to blood pressure meds for an of-label use.

[pb5927317]

Jen,

I actually had an initial diagnoses of Hodgkins because of a elevated white blood cell count. Once they got my adrenal fatigue under control, mysteriously, I was cured of cancer. Pretty scary that I could have been nuked 16 times and it was something totally different.

Wonder how many people are mis-diagnosed?

Pat

Pat,

What did you do to alleviate your adrenal fatigue? The two herbs that seemed to be helping me the most don't agree with me, and they are the ones that are most commonly used--ashwaghanda gives me headaches and licorice makes my blood pressure soar. I would like to try low dose cortisol for a short course, but I don't know if my doc will go for that. Having to stop the licorice has been a setback for me. I was feeling much better on it and functioning better, less pain, less fatigue.

My hematologist has been testing me for everything she can think of and wants to do a bone marrow biopsy. I do NOT want to go there--the stress would be too much and I'm sure it would be a huge setback and I feel fairly certain that this adrenal fatigue is the cause of the high white count, so I think it is fairly safe to hold off on that test indefinitly.

I'm just at a complete loss at what to do next. I'm so tired of feeling this way. Any advice you could offer would be welcome.

jen

Jen,

Ok, my Dr. gave me licrorce root and yes, my blood pressure skyrocketed as well. What he is doing now is giving me a product called glycemic foundation from ortho molecular. He also added in Pregnenelone compounded 25 mg. I rub it on externally twice a day. Cortisol made me HUNGRY, and sick to my stomach it sucked.

The pregnenelone worked great!

Pat

[howkim]

I believe I have been deficient.

Do you have test results that reflect your belief?

[pb5927317]

I believe I have been deficient.

Do you have test results that reflect your belief?

Yes, my average cortisol was like 1. And at night, it would somtimes get to 6 or 7 causing me sleep problems.

Last saliva test It did, it was 9 in the morning.....around 12 at night, then it dropped to like 3 at midnight. Just like it was supposed to.

[Muse-Inc]

...thryoid hormone needs to be taken in fasting state?

Yup. Hard to manage any other time but first thing in the morning.

[howkim]

I believe I have been deficient.

Do you have test results that reflect your belief?

Yes, my average cortisol was like 1. And at night, it would somtimes get to 6 or 7 causing me sleep problems.

Last saliva test It did, it was 9 in the morning.....around 12 at night, then it dropped to like 3 at midnight. Just like it was supposed to.

What about iodine levels - that's what you were referring to in the original statement. I guess I cut it down too far in my question.

[socknitster]

What about iodine levels - that's what you were referring to in the original statement. I guess I cut it down too far in my question.

No, I was not tested for this. However, I recently realized that I was not consuming any sources of iodine for YEARS. That simply could not have been good. The tiny amounts I might have gotten from eating salmon could not have been enough. It was just a mineral I was unaware of--and it happened to not be in the prenatal vitamin I took either, which really surprised me! It really should be in every multi! Adding back the amount that a typical Asian gets in food daily didn't seem that risky in the short term. Also, my doctor recommends I take this amount. I don't take his recommendations as gospel, but do the research myself first and then make a decision to follow his recommendation or not. In this case, it seemed prudent. My kids and husband are now getting supplemented through their multis.

Interesting, Pat, that your doc gave you Pregnenalone. I talked about it with mine, Pregnenalone is the mother of all the hormones, with progesterone being made from it. My doctor said he preferred Progesterone in women because sometimes with Pregnenalone, women make too much testosterone instead of the hormones they need. I'm now on a progesterone/estrogen cream. I will look into the supplement you mentioned. I had to stop the licorice when my bp got up to 140/95. Too afraid I'll stroke out while trying to improve my adrenal situation. I'm going to ask about low-dose cortisol at my next visit.

I have thougt about de-glyccerhyzed (sp?) or DGL licorice, but it is the G that is supposedly doing the work, so I don't know. Might pick some up anyway just to see. Goodness knows I take enough pills, one more won't matter.

Jen

[howkim]

No, I was not tested for this. Jen

You might considedr doing so. The urine test is apparently the correct one. Because iodine sublimes (evaporates), the "paint a spot on your arm" "test" isn't really a test.

[BonnieB]

20 years ago after the birth of my second child I had some chronic conditions that the western guys couldn't help me with. I ended up taking all kinds of medications. In frustration and desperation I went to an acupuncturist. She told me my fire had drowned out my water. And she also said that after the birth of a child, some women need help in getting back into balance. Well, after a few treatments, I started feeling better. I went back to normal and these problems have never returned. I have other successful acupuncture stories over the years. Best of luck to you on getting answers and a solution. Bonnie

[Muse-Inc]

...going to ask about low-dose cortisol at my next visit...

Ask for the hydocortisone in a low dose -- most prescibe waaay tooo much; a small amt is plenty, esp someone who's been low function for awhile. Best solution is no longer available...ACE (adrenal cortical extract) IV shots 3 times/wk for 3 wks. Gave the adrenals a rest and those 3 wks of 'rest' did the trick for me...hadda get it once maybe twice in a yr to get my adrenals functional again. FDA deemed it ineffective...of course, there were drugs & pharma needed its profits.