Card Readers?

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:36 am

Does that mean I can't use your software, just the Encorepro for now? And is it normal to have two desktop separate icons, one for yours and one for the Encorepro?
I am so upset as I have the reader and I'm ready to go...please get back to us as soon as you can figure this out. Thank you so much!!!
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Post by Guest » Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:46 pm

Here's a Microsoft Knowledge Base article on this particular error message as it relates to their .NET Framework 1.1:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.as ... -us;887992

Don't know if this helps out, but I hope it does!

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:51 pm

For some great/unexplained reason, your software started to work after I got that error message initially. After I ran Encorepro, I tried yours again and it works!!!
Anyway, I am a bit confused. Is there a link you can send me that explains in more detail what I should be paying the most attention to? I am not quite understanding what I'm reading. I looked at the daily reports and, for instance, on 7/31, last night, it said Apnea/Hypopnea Index (AHI): 3.0 events/hr. That I can figure out, but is that all I really need to know? That was my worst out of the four nights recorded. There is a lot to absorb so I'm probably asking stupid questions. So if there's a site or something you could send me to explain each of the many categories, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks so much. Great software, by the way. Thanks for making it available to us for free. You are an angel.
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Post by Guest » Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:53 pm

The above seems to indicate a user-interface timing issue with respect to .NET Framework 1.1 resources. Could it be that inserting a simple time delay routine in MyEncore (thereby giving .NET resources more time to become available) might also work around this particular issue?

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:34 pm

Guest,
It works now every time I click to open it, so whatever the problem was is not there anymore, or at least so far. Thanks.
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Post by derek » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:19 pm

Guest,
You may be on to something - the problem is that I cannot test it, since I cannot create the problem. I'll make a new test version of MyEncore with a substantial delay, and ask somebody who is still having the problem to test it.

Also, if you re the same Guest with the earlier link - I don't think anybody is using the Configuration tool. My read on this particular error is that it pops up in many .NET applications (but only on some computers), and nobody seems to have a handle on what the problem is.

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Post by tommy » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:38 pm

I'm just another satisfied REMstar Auto with C-Flex (autopap) user. I bought the reader package from CPAP.com and I love Derek's software. Thanks again for all the advice to us new users.
Tom


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Post by Sleepless on LI » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:51 pm

To everyone who is thinking of buying the card reader for the Encorepro software for the Remstar Auto, thanks to Tridens, I bought mine from http://www.2factors.com for $24 plus $6.00 in s/h. See link below. It is in Hong Kong. They list it as the DT3500, made by Mako, but it comes in saying "Infineer" on the reader, just as the Respironics one does. It was mailed out by them to me on 7/26 and I got it today on 8/1. Once you get it, all you have to do is use the driver that comes with the Encorepro software and it works perfectly.
http://www.2factors.com/index.php?sp=&p ... s=&lang=en
So I bought the software from this site, cpap.com, for $99 and the card reader from the Hong Kong site for $24 (without shipping, mind you) and ended up paying only $123 for both. It is a savings and it worked. If anyone has any other questions, ask away. I'm a happy customer with a few extra dollars in MY pocket with the same end result had I paid full price.
Thanks, Tridens.

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Post by Macishman » Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:40 am

Is it possible that error came up from trying to launch MyEncore BEFORE you had downloaded data into Encore Pro?

I remember someone saying that would cause an error.


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Post by Sleepless on LI » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:09 am

Is it possible that error came up from trying to launch MyEncore BEFORE you had downloaded data into Encore Pro?
That is exactly what I did. I thought I should launch the program first and then insert the card into the reader. When that didn't work, I went ahead and used the Encorepro and then tried once again to see if MyEncore would work and it did, and does every time now.

Very good thinking. That should be a topic for a thread for anyone who receives that error or is installing the MyEncore software. USE ENCOREPRO FIRST. AND THEN AFTER HAVING INSERTED YOUR CARD INTO THE CARD READER, THEN LAUNCH MYENCORE FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! It's not like EncorePro where you do the profile and everything else first.

Right on the money!

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Post by Tridens » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:31 pm

Sorry I've not had the time to reply to this board over the past couple of days...at work too much.

Lori, glad to hear your reader from 2factors.com worked for you!

Re: the MyEncore error, I had exactly the same error trying to run MyEncore before downloading data from the card in Encore Pro. Interestingly, I received this error even though I had imported some of the sample data Respironics includes on their CD. Once I downloaded my own data I had no difficulties.

If anyone is still having this problem you might consider uninstalling and reinstalling the .NET package. I've also heard reports that Norton AV can cause this error, even if you temporarily disable the real-time protection. This was not the issue for me, however.

Lori, re: your interpretations of results, if you're only getting an AHI of 3 you've got nothing to worry about (and you're lucky!). A totally normal AHI (for someone who has no OSA) is about 5. FYI, I'm still stuck around an AHI of 15, even though my doc changed my pressure from 6-10 up to 6-12. A popular report in MyEncore appears to be AHI vs. Pressure, although I'm still trying to figure out what mine is telling me, and I'll probably start a separate thread on that. MyEncore also lets you view data across multiple download sessions, which lets you see longer term trends, especially if you're like me and like to download each morning!

The Encore Pro tutorial available on this site will give you some help in terms of analyzing the data in MyEncore as well. Here's the link:

viewArticle/Encore-Pro-Respironics-CPAP ... Derek.html

Note the "My Personal Use of Encore Pro" section. It was helpful to me.

This is about as much help I can offer as a fellow newbie...hopefully some more experienced "tweakers" will weigh in.

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:43 pm

Tridens,

Thank you for the link. I did find it the other day. After spending some time analyzing the different info available, I realize now what probably is what I want to pay attention to and what really is not necessary. I am finding, however, a difference in the information I get from EncorePro and MyEncore. They amounts of episodes differ.

I find it amazing that everyone is telling me that my AHI is under the normal limits. Why am I on this machine anymore, or is it the machine that is helping to make my episodes within normal limits? I was told that anatomically I have no reason to have OSA, and further re-reading of my sleep study showed NO apnea episodes, but some hypops, about 4.something per hour, and a lot of PLMD episodes. I was told by my ENT that if I continue to lose the weight I put on, it could very well disappear. I only had about 25 lbs. to get back to my former "knitting needle" self, as my mother likes to call me. And I have already lost 8 lbs. since July 3rd by exercising three times a week for 45 mins. on my exercise bike and eating very well (no red meats, no fried foods, no snacks except fruit, only drink water and one cup of tea in the morning, no processed sugar of any kind, no salt, etc.) I am totally into getting healthy and hopefully getting off this machine. Maybe the extra 15-20 lbs. I want to lose will do the trick. I can only pray. But as I've said already, if not, at least I'll look better in my mask and feel a hell of a lot better. I already do feel great, I have to admit. The energy level is amazing and I just feel healthy for the first time in years, not to mention my BP is bacl within normal limits with no meds.

I can only wish how I feel on my fellow cpap-ers here who have been so kind and supportive of me, you included. I owe you for recommending that card reader. We saved ourselves a bit of money by taking that chance. I did put the info out there on one of these threads, but I answer so many, I forgot which one.

Well, keep me posted on your therapy. Hopefully your numbers will fall below the 5 AHI soon, too. And thanks again for all your help.

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Post by Tridens » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:15 pm

Lori,

As far as why you're on CPAP with those numbers, I really have no idea, but I think it's a great question to ask your doc. It very well could be that the machine is what's presently keeping you in the normal range. If I were in your shoes, I'd do my own sleep study. I haven't done this myself yet, but I know Rested Gal has. Check out this link for how to do it...

viewtopic.php?t=3864&highlight=ramp+split+study

I'm also hoping to have CPAP be a thing of the past by losing weight. Over the past month or so I've lost 15 lbs. That still leaves me about 30+ more to get to a super healthy/athletic weight, but I'm super-motivated. I also feel much better, and I'm committed to having this not just be a diet, but a permanent lifestyle change.

I'll be lucky to get off of CPAP, though. I know my weight contributes to it, but I've got structural problems as well that probably contribute. I snored even as a kid, and I was as thin as a rail all the way through college. I've also had sinus surgery (and need it again). It's worth a try, though, since I want to lose the weight anyway. Even if I can't get off CPAP completely, I'd love to be able to lower my pressure, which should result in increased comfort and fewer leaks.

Best of luck with your continued weight loss and getting off CPAP. Who knows, maybe both of us will be ex-CPAP visitors on this site in the future!

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Post by dsm » Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:53 am

Sleepless on LI wrote:To everyone who is thinking of buying the card reader for the Encorepro software for the Remstar Auto, thanks to Tridens, I bought mine from http://www.2factors.com for $24 plus $6.00 in s/h. See link below. It is in Hong Kong. They list it as the DT3500, made by Mako, but it comes in saying "Infineer" on the reader, just as the Respironics one does. It was mailed out by them to me on 7/26 and I got it today on 8/1. Once you get it, all you have to do is use the driver that comes with the Encorepro software and it works perfectly.
Hmmm, I owe Fred Stanmyre an appology re this - I said I did not believe he could get one under about $US100 - this proves my statement quite wrong. Fred thought it possible to get one for HK for $10-12 - he wasn't far off.

Fred I appologise!.

Now to go get myself one.

Cheers

DSM

##UPDATE: I just joined & went to order one of the units but they want $US20 shipping on top of the $24 for the reader. Hmmm, I will have to see if I can get a HK friend to pick one up.
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Post by Guest » Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:00 am

I had the same probelm with them-the shipping came up $20 That is for quick delivery.. I e-mailed them and said I wanted the $6 shipping which they say will take 2-3 weeks. I said no probelm. They e-mailed me back with the paypal invoice which I paid. So be patient-they are working on their web site I guess. Since I already have a reader and want this as a backup I can wait. I also ordered the slide reader which I ASSUME is the correct one right?