Sleep Weaver --- CLOTH!! Mask????
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I've been using the Sleepweaver mask for about a month now. At first I had a little difficulty getting used to it, but once I figured it out I'm sold on it. It is way more comfortable than the nasal pillow I was using, especially since I tend to move around in my sleep.
I would love to try one too. I have a hard time with anything on my face that especially makes me feel sweaty...so i have a hard time finding a mask.
Like the previous poster if the mfg needs another reviewer or if one of the previous reviewers that didn't care for it want to pass it along.
Thanks
Sarah
Like the previous poster if the mfg needs another reviewer or if one of the previous reviewers that didn't care for it want to pass it along.
Thanks
Sarah
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snore-by-gore
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Hey maybe some of you SleepWeaver users can answer this question:
It seems to me that the flexible nature of the mask would make it so that when you turned over in your sleep, it would flop around and the seal would be broken. A couple of people have referred to having to 'fiddle' with it for a while to get it to seal, and needing to be in 'final' sleep position when putting it on. All this suggests to me that maybe it's not the best mask for people who move around a lot in their sleep. But then, I see a recent post in this thread from a mover...
so what's the answer? Does it stay sealed once you get it sealed, even if you toss and turn?
Minerva
It seems to me that the flexible nature of the mask would make it so that when you turned over in your sleep, it would flop around and the seal would be broken. A couple of people have referred to having to 'fiddle' with it for a while to get it to seal, and needing to be in 'final' sleep position when putting it on. All this suggests to me that maybe it's not the best mask for people who move around a lot in their sleep. But then, I see a recent post in this thread from a mover...
so what's the answer? Does it stay sealed once you get it sealed, even if you toss and turn?
Minerva
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BigGayBert
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So Sad....
I'm so sad because I really, really wanted this mask to work. In theory, it is an amazing product. I honestly think it may be the wave of the future in masks. This particular mask, however, didn't work for me. I feel like it was a "prototype" mask. It just doesn't feel like a finished product. With some refinement, this could be a revolution in masks. As soon as they come out with a "new and improved" version, I will be the first to buy it (assuming they still have a free trial!).
CONS:
This mask is finicky...it doesn't take too much effort to get it to seal, but if you move, forget about it. I woke up a whole lot during the night tugging on the thing and would eventually rip it off and throw it on the floor. I just looked at my data and I wore it no more than four hours each night. Each night I had a very high leak rate. When I got up in the morning, the underside of my nose was sore because the mask has a big, scratchy seam right under your nose. I emailed the company for advice, because I really did want the mask to work, but they basically sent me directions for getting the mask to seal. Not helpful at all. A very minor problem, that wouldn't have prevented me from keeping the mask, was that the hose can only be routed down, and I always sleep with mine over my head. I'm sure I could have gotten used to it, though.
Here's the clincher: after FIVE nights of usage, the mask fell apart. I mean totally fell apart....I woke up with the mask on my face and the hose on the floor. The cloth had completely separated from the tubing that connects the mask to the hose. It looked like it was just held on with tape. I could have just re-taped it, but why the hell would I spend $170 on something I have to tape up every few nights?
PROS:
Soft, comfortable (except for the seam under the nose), and relatively quiet. The headgear was minimal and didn't need any quick-releases because it could just be pulled on and off without unhooking anything.
So, I'm mailing my mask back tomorrow for a refund. This really is a great concept, and I feel comfortable that Circadience will be able to come out with a much better product after some design modifications.
MY RECOMMENDATION:
Try it. It may work well for you, and if it does, it's $170 well spent. If not, you've only lost the cost to ship it back to them, and that's only a few dollars. They refund the whole purchase price and the shipping is free. It's definitely worth the postage one-way to try it out.
CONS:
This mask is finicky...it doesn't take too much effort to get it to seal, but if you move, forget about it. I woke up a whole lot during the night tugging on the thing and would eventually rip it off and throw it on the floor. I just looked at my data and I wore it no more than four hours each night. Each night I had a very high leak rate. When I got up in the morning, the underside of my nose was sore because the mask has a big, scratchy seam right under your nose. I emailed the company for advice, because I really did want the mask to work, but they basically sent me directions for getting the mask to seal. Not helpful at all. A very minor problem, that wouldn't have prevented me from keeping the mask, was that the hose can only be routed down, and I always sleep with mine over my head. I'm sure I could have gotten used to it, though.
Here's the clincher: after FIVE nights of usage, the mask fell apart. I mean totally fell apart....I woke up with the mask on my face and the hose on the floor. The cloth had completely separated from the tubing that connects the mask to the hose. It looked like it was just held on with tape. I could have just re-taped it, but why the hell would I spend $170 on something I have to tape up every few nights?
PROS:
Soft, comfortable (except for the seam under the nose), and relatively quiet. The headgear was minimal and didn't need any quick-releases because it could just be pulled on and off without unhooking anything.
So, I'm mailing my mask back tomorrow for a refund. This really is a great concept, and I feel comfortable that Circadience will be able to come out with a much better product after some design modifications.
MY RECOMMENDATION:
Try it. It may work well for you, and if it does, it's $170 well spent. If not, you've only lost the cost to ship it back to them, and that's only a few dollars. They refund the whole purchase price and the shipping is free. It's definitely worth the postage one-way to try it out.
Well I'll tell ya...
I just read through all of the posts on this topic, hoping that maybe this would be the innovative mask that would help me get over my "non-compliance" with CPAP.
But I've seen too many "forced viral" ad campaigns in my time not to recognize them here.
I'm happy that we've had a couple of cpaptalk regulars try them and give us honest reviews, but if the product was entirely on the up-and-up, there'd be no need for a whole batch of wildly praising ad-copy sounding posts.
Even as recently as the first of this month, someone posted and makes me ask "How could this person be so excited about this mask that they need to tell me about it, and yet so blase about the entire CPAP experience that they have literally nothing else to talk about on the entire site, including any kind of historical information more specific than 'the mask I was using before'.".
The problem is, the planted rave reviews make me distrust even the honest ones. Cynic me, I even end up deducting a point or ten from positive reviews from people I believe are being honest and not shills for the company.
The end result is that until this mask becomes more main stream, I'm not going to be trying it out, and until we stop getting these faux testimonials intermingled with the honest discussion, I don't see that happening.
(Please note, I'm not saying that the mask is bad, I haven't tried it and have no idea. I'm just saying that the marketing of it through the use of clumsy posts that try to sound like unaffiliated rave reviews is suspect to me.)
Liam, who finds it very offputting when he feels he's being manipulated, and these "testimonial-tisements" make him feel exactly that way.
I just read through all of the posts on this topic, hoping that maybe this would be the innovative mask that would help me get over my "non-compliance" with CPAP.
But I've seen too many "forced viral" ad campaigns in my time not to recognize them here.
I'm happy that we've had a couple of cpaptalk regulars try them and give us honest reviews, but if the product was entirely on the up-and-up, there'd be no need for a whole batch of wildly praising ad-copy sounding posts.
Even as recently as the first of this month, someone posted and makes me ask "How could this person be so excited about this mask that they need to tell me about it, and yet so blase about the entire CPAP experience that they have literally nothing else to talk about on the entire site, including any kind of historical information more specific than 'the mask I was using before'.".
The problem is, the planted rave reviews make me distrust even the honest ones. Cynic me, I even end up deducting a point or ten from positive reviews from people I believe are being honest and not shills for the company.
The end result is that until this mask becomes more main stream, I'm not going to be trying it out, and until we stop getting these faux testimonials intermingled with the honest discussion, I don't see that happening.
(Please note, I'm not saying that the mask is bad, I haven't tried it and have no idea. I'm just saying that the marketing of it through the use of clumsy posts that try to sound like unaffiliated rave reviews is suspect to me.)
Liam, who finds it very offputting when he feels he's being manipulated, and these "testimonial-tisements" make him feel exactly that way.
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[quote="tangents"]They're delusional if they think someone's going to plop down $170 with an ad like that.
Although it does make me think...why don't they use the air being pumped to the mask to create the seal? I know that some masks use the air to help make the seal, but I'm talking about an inflatable mask. If the outer surface of the mask was rigid, and the headgear was attached to this rigid surface, couldn't the mask siphon off some of the air to inflate it and seal it against your face?
Anyone want to go in with me to develop the perfect mask???
Cheers,
Cathy
Although it does make me think...why don't they use the air being pumped to the mask to create the seal? I know that some masks use the air to help make the seal, but I'm talking about an inflatable mask. If the outer surface of the mask was rigid, and the headgear was attached to this rigid surface, couldn't the mask siphon off some of the air to inflate it and seal it against your face?
Anyone want to go in with me to develop the perfect mask???
Cheers,
Cathy
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I think it would be a little like free falling from 1000 feet <cheeks flapping in the wind> : )Babette wrote:Man, that would truly irritate me, cutting off my mouth like that. I'm claustrophobic and just HATED the OptiLife covering my mouth.
Ya'll let me know how you like it.
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Interesting...
I got a nice long PM from someone who identified themselves as with the company that makes this that essentially said that I was off base in suspecting the veracity of glowing reviews from people who's only post ever to this site was this glowing review...
I will admit that those posts do not negate positive reviews by some folks who have been around here for a while, but they still give me a the heebee jeebees whenever I read them.
The fact is, human nature doesn't work that way. People don't get so fired up over a product that they go out and find places like this just so that they can join in order to post a single glowing review that reads more like ad copy than an honest testimonial.
Use the mask if you like. It may be a fine product. But I resent someone telling me that I should shut up and take all of the glowing reviews at face value when everything I've run into in over 20 years participating in on-line discussions tells me that those posts were planted. Maybe not by the people at the top of the company, perhaps not even with their knowledge. But those sorts of posts are someone's attempt to try to fake an "unbiased testimonial".
If they are not being done with the knowledge of or at the behest of those in charge of the company, then they should find out who IS doing it and ask them to stop. Because we're a batch of smart people on here, and all it does is makes us wonder what else we're being lied to about in order to get us to pay a lot of money for an untested product.
Liam, more than a little bit miffed at the gall of the person who wrote to him.
I got a nice long PM from someone who identified themselves as with the company that makes this that essentially said that I was off base in suspecting the veracity of glowing reviews from people who's only post ever to this site was this glowing review...
I will admit that those posts do not negate positive reviews by some folks who have been around here for a while, but they still give me a the heebee jeebees whenever I read them.
The fact is, human nature doesn't work that way. People don't get so fired up over a product that they go out and find places like this just so that they can join in order to post a single glowing review that reads more like ad copy than an honest testimonial.
Use the mask if you like. It may be a fine product. But I resent someone telling me that I should shut up and take all of the glowing reviews at face value when everything I've run into in over 20 years participating in on-line discussions tells me that those posts were planted. Maybe not by the people at the top of the company, perhaps not even with their knowledge. But those sorts of posts are someone's attempt to try to fake an "unbiased testimonial".
If they are not being done with the knowledge of or at the behest of those in charge of the company, then they should find out who IS doing it and ask them to stop. Because we're a batch of smart people on here, and all it does is makes us wonder what else we're being lied to about in order to get us to pay a lot of money for an untested product.
Liam, more than a little bit miffed at the gall of the person who wrote to him.
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Oh, on the plus side...
He did tell me that as of February they now have a money back guarantee. I don't know the specifics of it, inasmuch as I'm not yet back on xPAP (still waiting for the referring physician to decide I need to be evaluated for complex sleep apnea).
But I will say that it's a step in the right direction. So while I do still resent what appear to me to be planted posts (I'd go into more of why I think they are, but it would come dangerously close to posting specifics from a private e-mail, and that seems impolite), I certainly think that anyone who finds the concept of this mask to be interesting might do well to give it a try, if the money back guarantee is good enough (that is to say if it's truly unconditional, not some "We'll refund the money for the mask, but we keep the $50 shipping and handling fee" or whatever).
Liam, who feels the need to be fair in both directions.
He did tell me that as of February they now have a money back guarantee. I don't know the specifics of it, inasmuch as I'm not yet back on xPAP (still waiting for the referring physician to decide I need to be evaluated for complex sleep apnea).
But I will say that it's a step in the right direction. So while I do still resent what appear to me to be planted posts (I'd go into more of why I think they are, but it would come dangerously close to posting specifics from a private e-mail, and that seems impolite), I certainly think that anyone who finds the concept of this mask to be interesting might do well to give it a try, if the money back guarantee is good enough (that is to say if it's truly unconditional, not some "We'll refund the money for the mask, but we keep the $50 shipping and handling fee" or whatever).
Liam, who feels the need to be fair in both directions.
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Denver Gril
Re: Sleep Weaver --- CLOTH!! Mask????
I purchased this mask and I paid the $145. I ended up returning it for the following reasons:
1. It seems poorly made. It's literally all cloth (very thin cloth) and I'm not sure how long the cloth would really last, esepcially after a few washings. My CPAP machine has a humidifier and after a few nights of using the the cloth mask, the material became noticably more limp and lost it's starchy stiff feel.
2. The mask literally blows up like a tent on your face once your machine starts. Once on, you have to adjust the mask to your face and seal off any leaks. As previously stated, once the mask lost some of it's stiffness, the leaks were harder to close off.
3. The mask was great for side sleeping, but I had my doubts to how well it really worked because I still felt very sluggish every morning as if the mask wasn't doing it's job of keeping a seal and having the air constantly moving.
At the $170 price, it's just too much!
Just my two cents!
1. It seems poorly made. It's literally all cloth (very thin cloth) and I'm not sure how long the cloth would really last, esepcially after a few washings. My CPAP machine has a humidifier and after a few nights of using the the cloth mask, the material became noticably more limp and lost it's starchy stiff feel.
2. The mask literally blows up like a tent on your face once your machine starts. Once on, you have to adjust the mask to your face and seal off any leaks. As previously stated, once the mask lost some of it's stiffness, the leaks were harder to close off.
3. The mask was great for side sleeping, but I had my doubts to how well it really worked because I still felt very sluggish every morning as if the mask wasn't doing it's job of keeping a seal and having the air constantly moving.
At the $170 price, it's just too much!
Just my two cents!
Re: Sleep Weaver --- CLOTH!! Mask????
i checked out the images on the web site and i am sorry, it looks too much like some of the novelty underwear that has been around for years- all it needs is a couple of big ears and to be dyed grey!
But seriously, if it works for some great but it looks too gimicky and i find it hard to understand how it can cost anywhere near $175 being made from fabric i would have expected it too be substantially cheaper than other masks
But seriously, if it works for some great but it looks too gimicky and i find it hard to understand how it can cost anywhere near $175 being made from fabric i would have expected it too be substantially cheaper than other masks
Re: Sleep Weaver --- CLOTH!! Mask????
Personally I thought it was highly overpriced for something I could make myself for a few bucks. I don't see how it would work either. It would crush as soon as I turned over onto it. Then again, so do other masks I've tried, but I still think the plastic masks would be longer lasting at the very least.kebsa wrote:i checked out the images on the web site and i am sorry, it looks too much like some of the novelty underwear that has been around for years- all it needs is a couple of big ears and to be dyed grey!
But seriously, if it works for some great but it looks too gimicky and i find it hard to understand how it can cost anywhere near $175 being made from fabric i would have expected it too be substantially cheaper than other masks
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Re: Sleep Weaver --- CLOTH!! Mask????
I just tried this mask the last 2 nites and give it an A##--I have been thru literally every mask out there and this was VERY comfortable and easy ti adjust--at first i had a few leaks but i just pulled on it and the leaks stopped--my husband was amazes to see me in the same position sleeping for so many hours and not restless--I am praying it continues to work for me, but it literally is the first mask I wore that did not come off in the middle of the nite.