Problems With CPAP Tubing

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Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by Movieman » Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:43 pm

Has anyone purchased a lightweight CPAP tubing and had issues with it?

I purchased this one to have an extra hose and air leaks out back of machine when I breathe.
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This does not happen w/ hose that came with my machine. Just wondering if anyone else had the same type of issue.

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:11 pm

Are both ends of the new hose flexible, and look alike?
Does the hose look anything like your original hose? Or like the image?
Does the end fit snugly on the outlet tubing?
Some short, super lightweight hoses are meant to go from the mask to the long hose,
and will not fit the machine directly.
Who is the seller?

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by Movieman » Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:56 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:11 pm
Are both ends of the new hose flexible, and look alike?
Does the hose look anything like your original hose? Or like the image?
Does the end fit snugly on the outlet tubing?
Some short, super lightweight hoses are meant to go from the mask to the long hose,
and will not fit the machine directly.
Who is the seller?
I got the hose from https://www.thecpapshop.com/. The hose is 6’ just like my current hose.

The ends of the new hose are similar to the ends on my current hose. The ends of new hose fit snugly on the elbow joint that goes into back of machine and on the joint that goes onto mask. When I run machine there are no leaks.

One note that I forgot to mention. Air rushes out of machine and mask only when I take in a deep breath. This is a reflex that happens a couple of times a night to me. It seems to break mask seal and pushes air out of the back of machine. This doesn’t happen with my current hose. I thought maybe it was due to hose being lightweight. However, it feels like it’s the same as my current hose in weight and joints.

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:06 am

If there is a leak due to a hole, you may be able to find it by running your moistened hand/finger
along the hose and around the connectors.
Check for a cold breeze, which will be easier to find with wet skin.
If the hose has a hole in it, you should contact the seller and return it if possible.

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by palerider » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:02 pm

Movieman wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:43 pm
Has anyone purchased a lightweight CPAP tubing and had issues with it?

I purchased this one to have an extra hose and air leaks out back of machine when I breathe.
What you are saying makes no sense.

Where do you think air is leaking out of the "back of the machine"?

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:19 pm

palerider wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:02 pm
Movieman wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:43 pm
Has anyone purchased a lightweight CPAP tubing and had issues with it?

I purchased this one to have an extra hose and air leaks out back of machine when I breathe.
What you are saying makes no sense.

Where do you think air is leaking out of the "back of the machine"?
We cannot imagine where the leak could be.
"Out the back" is too general.
Can you specify exactly where the air is coming from?

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by Dog Slobber » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:40 pm

Check to make sure Humidifier tank is fully inserted, and gasket is properly inserted in clamshell tank.

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by Janknitz » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:57 pm

One note that I forgot to mention. Air rushes out of machine and mask only when I take in a deep breath. This is a reflex that happens a couple of times a night to me. It seems to break mask seal and pushes air out of the back of machine. This doesn’t happen with my current hose. I thought maybe it was due to hose being lightweight. However, it feels like it’s the same as my current hose in weight and joints.
If the mask seal was breaking during a forceful exhalation it would leak around the mask.

I'm not sure if this is it, but my first CPAP was a Philips Respironics System One. There was nothing to hold the filter in the back of the machine, other than the opening for the filter. Whenever I coughed while using CPAP, it blew both filters out of that opening. :lol: I have cough variant asthma, so I cough a lot. Every morning the filters would be on the table, instead of in place. I ended up having to use a rubber band around my machine to secure the filters.

The inlet where the filter sits on your machine (ResMed) is on the left side when you are facing the front of the machine). There is a grate that holds the filter in place so it won't pop out . But hold your hand near that grate and do a forceful exhalation and see if that's where the air is coming from. If there is something close to your machine, the air might travel toward the back so it feels like it is coming from the back.
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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by Movieman » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:50 pm

palerider wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:02 pm
Movieman wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:43 pm
Has anyone purchased a lightweight CPAP tubing and had issues with it?

I purchased this one to have an extra hose and air leaks out back of machine when I breathe.
What you are saying makes no sense.

Where do you think air is leaking out of the "back of the machine"?
I think it leaks from either the elbow joint that hooks to the back of the unit or the hose that hooks into elbow joint. However this only happens upon breathing out forcefully. The blower is on the back of the machine and I hook the hose to an elbow joint and that elbow joint goes on the back of the machine.

I also checked for leaks in the hose as chunkyfrog suggested but I can’t find any. The hose joints are snug when I hook them up. I also checked to make sure the humidifier is in all the way. For now, I’ve been using the hose that came with machine and it seems to work fine. I only bought another hose so I have a backup. When I clean my current hose, it takes a long time to dry.

Thanks everyone. I’m new to CPAP and it’s been quite an adjustment. :D :D I thought maybe the hose being lightweight was why this was happening, but from the answers here it seems that is not the case. Maybe there is a small hole in the hose that I just can’t find.

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by Movieman » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:55 pm

Janknitz wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:57 pm
One note that I forgot to mention. Air rushes out of machine and mask only when I take in a deep breath. This is a reflex that happens a couple of times a night to me. It seems to break mask seal and pushes air out of the back of machine. This doesn’t happen with my current hose. I thought maybe it was due to hose being lightweight. However, it feels like it’s the same as my current hose in weight and joints.
If the mask seal was breaking during a forceful exhalation it would leak around the mask.

I'm not sure if this is it, but my first CPAP was a Philips Respironics System One. There was nothing to hold the filter in the back of the machine, other than the opening for the filter. Whenever I coughed while using CPAP, it blew both filters out of that opening. :lol: I have cough variant asthma, so I cough a lot. Every morning the filters would be on the table, instead of in place. I ended up having to use a rubber band around my machine to secure the filters.

The inlet where the filter sits on your machine (ResMed) is on the left side when you are facing the front of the machine). There is a grate that holds the filter in place so it won't pop out . But hold your hand near that grate and do a forceful exhalation and see if that's where the air is coming from. If there is something close to your machine, the air might travel toward the back so it feels like it is coming from the back.
The mask seal does break sometimes, but I feel that easy lol. Tonight I will check by the filter; maybe it is coming from there. 🙂🙂🙂🙂 I still wonder why it only happens w/ new hose though? Lots of crazy quirks happen using CPAP 😆😆. Thanks!!

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by palerider » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:36 pm

Movieman wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:50 pm
palerider wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:02 pm
Movieman wrote:
Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:43 pm
Has anyone purchased a lightweight CPAP tubing and had issues with it?

I purchased this one to have an extra hose and air leaks out back of machine when I breathe.
What you are saying makes no sense.

Where do you think air is leaking out of the "back of the machine"?
I think it leaks from either the elbow joint that hooks to the back of the unit or the hose that hooks into elbow joint. However this only happens upon breathing out forcefully. The blower is on the back of the machine and I hook the hose to an elbow joint and that elbow joint goes on the back of the machine.
Try not using the elbow, just connect the hose directly to the back of the machine, as a test.
Movieman wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:50 pm
When I clean my current hose, it takes a long time to dry.
Over time, you may decide, like many of us, that cleaning the hose is unnecessary.

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by palerider » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:38 pm

Movieman wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:55 pm
🙂🙂🙂 I still wonder why it only happens w/ new hose though? Lots of crazy quirks happen using CPAP 😆😆. Thanks!!
Is the new hose the same diameter (the hose itself, not the connectors at the end) as the old one? is the old one a heated hose? Did you adjust the host size in the machine's menu?

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:36 pm

How frequently do you clean your hose?
Many of us NEVER wash our hoses, as they are only exposed to filtered air from the machine.
Also, where do you wash/dry the hose?
If "in the bathroom", make sure it's one where no one poops.
If you can smell it, there is fecal coliform floating around-
--your hose leaves the bathroom dirtier than it went in.
EEEEEW!

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by Movieman » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:45 pm

palerider wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:38 pm
Movieman wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:55 pm
🙂🙂🙂 I still wonder why it only happens w/ new hose though? Lots of crazy quirks happen using CPAP 😆😆. Thanks!!
Is the new hose the same diameter (the hose itself, not the connectors at the end) as the old one? is the old one a heated hose? Did you adjust the host size in the machine's menu?
Thank you palerider. This was the issue. Everything is working great now. My current hose is slimline non-heated and the machine was set to slimline. The hose I purchased said it was standard size. When I went into settings and picked “standard” on the menu, the hose worked with no problems.

Thanks everyone!! Great forum.

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Re: Problems With CPAP Tubing

Post by Movieman » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:55 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:36 pm
How frequently do you clean your hose?
Many of us NEVER wash our hoses, as they are only exposed to filtered air from the machine.
Also, where do you wash/dry the hose?
If "in the bathroom", make sure it's one where no one poops.
If you can smell it, there is fecal coliform floating around-
--your hose leaves the bathroom dirtier than it went in.
EEEEEW!
I started out cleaning per the instructions which is 2-3 times a week. Now I clean it once every couple of weeks. I do not clean it in the bathroom. I clean it in the kitchen in a basin I use only for the hose 🙂

Good point though that only filtered air from machine goes through it. I guess the doctor or the machine manufacturer are just being over cautious with the cleaning instructions. I do hate cleaning it. They got me paranoid saying to ensure I clean the equipment often lol