6 yr old with sleep apnea arrested

[Grace~~~]

...after acting up from being sleep deprived.
Handcuffed and charged.

Arresting officer also has shares that he has sleep apnea.
(Though presumably better treated)



https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/flori ... r-tantrum/

This is a local story here in Central Florida I thought y'all may find interesting.

[Julie]

I really thought I'd heard everything... really.... but that is the WORST! What is wrong with people! And apnea has nothing to do with it. Outrageous!

[jimbud]

Florida Child
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Florida Child is an Internet meme, popularized in 2013, in which the phrase “Florida Child” is taken from multiple unrelated news articles describing various actual children who hail from or live in Florida. Internet users typically submit links to news stories and articles about unusual or strange crimes or events occurring in Florida, particularly those where "Florida Child" is mentioned in the headline and has been wreaking havoc. The meme calls attention to Florida's supposed notoriety for strange and unusual events.[1] Miami New Times noted that freedom of information laws in Florida make it easier for journalists to obtain information about arrests from the police than in other states and that this is responsible for the large number of news articles.[2]

What is becoming of the next to the next generation?

JPB

[Grace~~~]

The story just made my head and heart hurt.

...the sleep apnea angle is the reason I shared it here. Obviously this grandmother believes (and this little girl will be taught) that she has sleep apnea. I can't help but be curious of how this diagnosis was made and if anyone told them her behavior was a symptom of apnea or if they came to that conclusion on their own?

I don't know how many 6 yr olds would have an apnea diagnosis.
Or how many 6 year olds have an arrest record

[Grace~~~]

Florida Child
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Florida Child is an Internet meme, popularized in 2013, in which the phrase “Florida Child” is taken from multiple unrelated news articles describing various actual children who hail from or live in Florida. Internet users typically submit links to news stories and articles about unusual or strange crimes or events occurring in Florida, particularly those where "Florida Child" is mentioned in the headline and has been wreaking havoc. The meme calls attention to Florida's supposed notoriety for strange and unusual events.[1] Miami New Times noted that freedom of information laws in Florida make it easier for journalists to obtain information about arrests from the police than in other states and that this is responsible for the large number of news articles.[2]

What is becoming of the next to the next generation?

JPB

'freedom of information laws in F'lorida make it easier for journalists to obtain information about arrests from the police than in other states and that this is 'responsible for the large number of news articles'

...interesting reason, JPB. Our "sunshine laws".
Though I was kinda hoping other states were just a little saner.

[jimbud]

Grace, I do not think this story is credible. One can read all kinds of false stories on the internet.
No law enforcement authority would arrest a six year old.
I know of no handcuffs small enough to fit a six year old.
A six year old should only be fingerprinted or photographed for identification.
On the off chance they were to be lost or kidnapped as a security measure.
I suppose a six year old could have apnea, but probably would have been diagnosed at birth or at least at some time earlier than six.
A six year old would have no concept of what sleep apnea is.
Unless the child had been living with it and dealing with it.

Stranger things have happened in this new world we now live in, but I have a hard time believing it has sunk to this low a level.
I hope it is a hoax.
Please be a hoax.

I sure do not want your head and heart to hurt.
JPB

[Grace~~~]

Jimbud, it was on our local news. WKMG.

Not that our local news can't be as full of hoaxes as the internet ...

We'll probably never learn anything further about this child, but it definitely raises a lot of questions (and emotions).

How lovely would it be if she truly did have sleep apnea and got effective treatment and became a whole new well adjusted child.

...and even the arresting officers therapy may need to be checked? I'm not sure he was using his best judgement.

I never even thought about the sizing of handcuffs though ... makes one wonder if he had to use a ziptie to subdue her and bring her in?

[jimbud]

Jimbud, it was on our local news. WKMG.

Not that our local news can't be as full of hoaxes as the internet ...

We'll probably never learn anything further about this child, but it definitely raises a lot of questions (and emotions).

How lovely would it be if she truly did have sleep apnea and got effective treatment and became a whole new well adjusted child.

...and even the arresting officers therapy may need to be checked? I'm not sure he was using his best judgement.

I never even thought about the sizing of handcuffs though ... makes one wonder if he had to use a ziptie to subdue her and bring her in?

Yes, a six year old girl can be very difficult for a full grown apnea challenged officer of the law to handle.

The arresting officers therapy (psychological) may need some attention.

Be of good cheer,
JPB

[Holden4th]

The litigation issues with arresting and handcuffing a six year old child are enormous and any lawyer would have a field day. This has to be fake news.

[zoocrewphoto]

The litigation issues with arresting and handcuffing a six year old child are enormous and any lawyer would have a field day. This has to be fake news.

It has been on the news several times. I just saw an update about an hour ago.

I am attaching a screen shot that shows some of the results from a google search. CBS, CNN, Washington Post.

I saw an interview with the grandmother yesterday or the day before. The update I saw today had a press release with a Police official saying how upset he was about it.

[Grace~~~]

Unfortunately, I think this really happened here in "The City Beautiful" - Orlando.

It is being reported that the 6 yr old girl was even FINGERPRINTED and had a mugshot.

The arresting officer is now suspended pending investigations and the "UNTREATED SLEEP APNEA" connection is still being used as the reason for the little girls bad behavior.

...I'm not sure if the officer will use the same defense? (He also said he has Sleep Apnea)

[Midwest_non_sleeper]

As a law enforcement officer, I'm inclined to respond to this.

As officers of the law, we have a high degree of discretion when performing our duties. We have choices. We can give tickets, or not. We can stop that car, or not. We can arrest someone when we have probable cause to believe that a felony was committed, or a misdemeanor was committed in our presence, or we can issue a summons. Or, we can seek an arrest warrant at a later time. We have plenty of options.

With that said, I don't like Monday morning quarterbacking, because I wasn't there. BUT...

This was a bad call on the officer's part, as far as I can tell. The "sleep apnea" angle seems to be a way of somehow justifying the action. There have been times in the past, maybe 15 years ago, when at the behest of a parent, I scolded a young kid for something they had done, but not a 6 year old. Maybe 10, or 12. There's alot going on here to unpack. Maybe the child(ren) have some other issue that causes them to act out. Maybe they have a crazy home life. Maybe there is abuse. Maybe there are alot of things, but then again...

...maybe that officer just didn't use good discretion.

And maybe I'm wrong. Just the thoughts of one man. I can not think of a single situation in which I would arrest a six year old child as I would an adult, place them in handcuffs, and put them into a caged vehicle. Why would I? A court would never waive a six year into adult court, even if that six year old just got done mowing down 50 people with a super death machine aircraft carrier mounted machine gun. They are simply not capable of formulating the thought processes to understand, therefore, they cannot be treated as adults. These are the kinds of actions that make the public question the need for police at all. In the end, it just makes my job harder.

Edit: The officer has been fired. I don't know if it was because he broke policy, or because the media heat was just too high and a head had to roll.

[chunkyfrog]

Treatment: we know how difficult it is for some adults to be consistent with their therapy.
Now combine that with a whiny child and parents who need their sleep/don't believe in cpap,
or are just permissive to the point of abuse.
Maybe this child will finally have her cpap and use it too.
Lucky kid--at last.

[ChicagoGranny]

Was a school guidance counselor involved? Was the parent(s) called to come take the child home?

[palerider]

The litigation issues with arresting and handcuffing a six year old child are enormous and any lawyer would have a field day. This has to be fake news.

Why do people from other countries feel the need to comment as though they know something about the situation in florida?