Reducing pressure setting

[palerider]

I updated my machine. I set the value years ago, not sure where it went. Resmed S9. Machine updated. ty!
Machine: RESmart™ BPAP 25A Auto Bi-Level Machine with RESlex and Heated Humidifier
Mask: Mirage Activa™ LT Nasal CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: Resmed S9 Bipap

There's no such thing as a "resmed s9 bipap", because 'bipap' is a Respironics trademark.

There are about 9 wildly different Resmed S9 bilevel (vpap) machines.

And "RESmart' is not "ResMed"

So, what do you have?

[lhpangler]

I updated my machine. I set the value years ago, not sure where it went. Resmed S9. Machine updated. ty!
Machine: RESmart™ BPAP 25A Auto Bi-Level Machine with RESlex and Heated Humidifier
Mask: Mirage Activa™ LT Nasal CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: Resmed S9 Bipap

There's no such thing as a "resmed s9 bipap", because 'bipap' is a Respironics trademark.

There are about 9 wildly different Resmed S9 bilevel (vpap) machines.

And "RESmart' is not "ResMed"

So, what do you have?

I am travelling right now with an S8. I don't see Resmed s9 VPAP in the dropdown list. https://www.resmed.com/us/en/healthcare ... -auto.html I'll double check it later this week.

[palerider]

I updated my machine. I set the value years ago, not sure where it went. Resmed S9. Machine updated. ty!
Machine: RESmart™ BPAP 25A Auto Bi-Level Machine with RESlex and Heated Humidifier
Mask: Mirage Activa™ LT Nasal CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: Resmed S9 Bipap

There's no such thing as a "resmed s9 bipap", because 'bipap' is a Respironics trademark.

There are about 9 wildly different Resmed S9 bilevel (vpap) machines.

And "RESmart' is not "ResMed"

So, what do you have?

I am travelling right now with an S8. I don't see Resmed s9 VPAP in the dropdown list. https://www.resmed.com/us/en/healthcare ... -auto.html I'll double check it later this week.

S9 vpap *which*? wiki/index.php/CPAP_models

There are many things not in the list. There's suggestions on what to put in that table above.

[HoseCrusher]

So I wonder to what extent my bipap is still necessary. There are conflicting opinions as to whether apnea is permanent. We have seen diabetes and heart disease reverse by diet, why not apnea?

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20352095

lhpangler, a neurologist suggested that airway collapse during sleep may be associated with a malfunction in the brain stem. This same area may also influence restless legs.

Diet may help, but I am not sure that more may be needed to reverse this problem.

IF the body can heal itself the next question is what priority does it place on healing airway collapse...?

In the meantime, CPAP seems to be able to keep the airway open.

[palerider]

IF the body can heal itself the next question is what priority does it place on healing airway collapse...?

Right after 'fixing poor eyesight' by all apparent measures.

[HoseCrusher]

IF the body can heal itself the next question is what priority does it place on healing airway collapse...?

Right after 'fixing poor eyesight' by all apparent measures.

I have been unable to find optic references in the sleep control portion of the brain stem. Do you happen to know if bulbar response involves the optic system?

[palerider]

IF the body can heal itself the next question is what priority does it place on healing airway collapse...?

Right after 'fixing poor eyesight' by all apparent measures.

I have been unable to find optic references in the sleep control portion of the brain stem. Do you happen to know if bulbar response involves the optic system?

What does that have to do with "IF the body can heal itself the next question is what priority does it place on healing airway collapse...?"???

None, that I can see.

The body is, quite frankly, and *obviously*, crap at healing itself in a whole host of cases. that's the entire reason that chronic conditions exist, because the body doesn't heal properly. And you can't blame sleep for it, as much as you want to.

[HoseCrusher]

IF the body can heal itself the next question is what priority does it place on healing airway collapse...?

Right after 'fixing poor eyesight' by all apparent measures.

I have been unable to find optic references in the sleep control portion of the brain stem. Do you happen to know if bulbar response involves the optic system?

What does that have to do with "IF the body can heal itself the next question is what priority does it place on healing airway collapse...?"???

None, that I can see.

The body is, quite frankly, and *obviously*, crap at healing itself in a whole host of cases. that's the entire reason that chronic conditions exist, because the body doesn't heal properly. And you can't blame sleep for it, as much as you want to.

I see you are blind... No wonder the comment about poor eyesight.

The body is quite capable of healing itself if, and that is a bit IF, it is given the proper raw materials to do so.

Productive sleep plays an important part in this healing but it is not the only part. I am aware of chronic conditions such as MS, Parkinsons, ALS, Alzheimers, Kidney failure, Diabetes, Coronary disease, and many others being reversed and in some cases cured. This effort is based upon epegenetics and rebuilding the mitochondria. The chronic condition of sleep apnea may be next on the list...

I wish it was as simple as getting a good nights sleep...

[Julie]

Please tell me about ALS being cured? And diabetes... and Alzheimer's, and all those others you named!

[HoseCrusher]

Julie, in the 1980's people started looking at ways to alter the bodies biochemistry. This has become known as biohacking.

Do a search on biohacking. Some of it is crap. Some of it is golden. You have to decide what is what. If you try something the general rule is if it works, keep doing it. If it doesn't work stop doing it.

Let me direct you to

https://terrywahls.com/

The Wahls protocol is all about rebuilding the mitochondria. It restores lost function but is not a CURE. Still working on a cure. Terry Wahls has MS. Rather than die, she came up with the Wahls protocol and has greatly recovered. She claims that she has slowed the progression of MS down to a snails pace but she is not cured. The question is if she is able to enjoy life for the next 50 years and dies, is a cure important...?

Diabetes and Alzheimer's are simple. ALS is far more complex and we haven't been able to go beyond restoring lost function and improving quality of life. In the end people with ALS still die prematurely but with intervention they fall off a cliff rather than gradually degrading.

If you enjoy life "inside the box" this is not something you want to explore. On the other hand, if you are willing to look outside the box this may be something you can identify with.

[Julie]

HC - Lots here are sick of my repeating that my working life was in big teaching hospital research depts, more neuro than less, but at no time (while I'm happy to know e.g. mitochondria is being looked at - as are so many other areas) the last place I'd look for serious info would be that link you ref'd... looks more like a beauty salon ad than anything. Sorry

[palerider]

The body is quite capable of healing itself if, and that is a bit IF, it is given the proper raw materials to do so.

Productive sleep plays an important part in this healing but it is not the only part. I am aware of chronic conditions such as MS, Parkinsons, ALS, Alzheimers, Kidney failure, Diabetes, Coronary disease, and many others being reversed and in some cases cured. This effort is based upon epegenetics and rebuilding the mitochondria. The chronic condition of sleep apnea may be next on the list...

I wish it was as simple as getting a good nights sleep...

Yes, that's why dialysis clinics are closing down all over the country, and all transplant programs have shut down, lack of any patients...

It's not even worth *anyone's* time to talk to you.

[palerider]

the last place I'd look for serious info would be that link you ref'd... looks more like a beauty salon ad than anything. Sorry

There's big money in suckering the gullible, always has been.

[HoseCrusher]

HC - Lots here are sick of my repeating that my working life was in big teaching hospital research depts, more neuro than less, but at no time (while I'm happy to know e.g. mitochondria is being looked at - as are so many other areas) the last place I'd look for serious info would be that link you ref'd... looks more like a beauty salon ad than anything. Sorry

Julie, may I buy you a new shovel...?

I take it that no one in your circle is suffering from MS. Otherwise you would have dug deeper...

In your research involvement did you ever run across a drug that when given to a patient presenting in a wheel chair with Relapsing-Remitting Multiple Sclerosis results in ambulatory recovery to the point where a wheel chair is no longer needed in as little as a few months?

Or, how about a patient who can't stand the pain of sitting in a wheel chair and has moved to a reclining wheel chair and is presenting with Primary Progressive Multiple Sclerosis. What drug results in having that patient recover to the point where they are riding a bicycle some 12 miles through the park in 9 months?

These are the results of the Wahls protocol.

The Cleveland Clinic may not meet your "standards" for a large research hospital, but you have to give them credit. They watched Terry Wahls decline and recover and approached her about doing a clinical trial to see if her results could be duplicated in others. She pointed out that the Wahls protocol did not involve drugs, furthermore it involved the use of vitamin supplements, and the off label use of an electro stimulator. The Cleveland Clinic worked through the politics and the clinical trial took place. The results were positive and fantastic.

I am still shaking my head in wonderment... In one of the before videos you see a person struggling to walk using a walker for assistance. In the after video this same person is jogging down the hall...

I should mention that there are side effects in following the Wahls protocol. Those with chronic illness are finding improvement in those conditions and many times finding resolution of those conditions. These side effects seem to be well tolerated.

[HoseCrusher]

The body is quite capable of healing itself if, and that is a bit IF, it is given the proper raw materials to do so.

Productive sleep plays an important part in this healing but it is not the only part. I am aware of chronic conditions such as MS, Parkinsons, ALS, Alzheimers, Kidney failure, Diabetes, Coronary disease, and many others being reversed and in some cases cured. This effort is based upon epegenetics and rebuilding the mitochondria. The chronic condition of sleep apnea may be next on the list...

I wish it was as simple as getting a good nights sleep...

Yes, that's why dialysis clinics are closing down all over the country, and all transplant programs have shut down, lack of any patients...

It's not even worth *anyone's* time to talk to you.

palerider, your perspective is interesting...

On one hand you shout from the rooftops pointing out that most sleep doctors and all DME's are lying to you and you can take matters into your own hands and improve your sleep quality. This involves a machine that provides data and studying the data. Adjustments are made and the data is studied again to verify that the changes are showing improvements.

Yet when someone suggests you can do the same thing with chronic illness, you jump off the rooftop and say that modern medicine and the doctors know everything about chronic illness. They will give you a few drugs to minimize the ill effects, but just get use to it and die. It is a product of aging.

By the way, thank you for your guidence in optimizing CPAP.