Reducing pressure setting

palerider, I found this interesting...

"There is encouraging news on kidney disease among diabetics. The prevalence of kidney disease among individuals with diabetes decreased from 44 percent to 36 percent over the last two decades..."

https://www.usrds.org/adrhighlights.aspx

Since management of diabetes involves changes in eppigenetics, I wonder how that plays into this reduction.

HC - PR and I questioned the website, not the orig. premise of possible cures, though I did ask for details of cures for some of the conditions you threw out as if they were 'done'. Because of my work I am familiar with how legitimate research is published and how important testimonials are on websites that do not look like 'real' research. Anyone can say they are researching anything, but depending on where they get published, with what peer review oversight vs ... others who may even be paid to 'testify', I don't think people should immediately give them the kind of credence they would for e.g. journals from the NIH, or Mayo or Johns Hopkins, etc.... yes, that site may reflect serious work and good results, but because of the way it's set up, it turned me off, raised red flags, etc... as it apparently did for PR who does know something about medicine. That's all - and all I can give is my (educated) opinion of course so you don't have to agree with it, but at least respect that I have some idea of what serious research look like and not.

Julie wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:49 am

HC - PR and I questioned the website, not the orig. premise of possible cures, though I did ask for details of cures for some of the conditions you threw out as if they were 'done'.

well said.

HoseCrusher wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:59 am

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Yet when someone suggests you can do the same thing with chronic illness, you jump off the rooftop and say that modern medicine and the doctors know everything about chronic illness.

Nope, I have not said that *at all*.

What I've said is that your "the body can heal itself from anything" that you keep spouting is just utter crap.

Julie, thank you for clarifying where you are coming from.

I don't believe any "legitimate research" involves the use of food and vitamins so any results from these interventions would be off your radar.

My involvement is on the results basis. People with MS find they no longer need a walker and are able to improve their gait and balance. People with Pulmonary Fibrosis show a 10% reduction in ground glass opacity. People with head trauma recover. People with Alzheimers recover clarity in their minds. People with Diabetes recover. People on dialysis recover to the point where dialysis is not longer needed. People with ALS recover lost function and enjoy a higher quality of life. Unfortunately they still die prematurely so it is not a cure.

As far as I can tell, non of this is possible according to "legitimate research." Functional medicine strives to identify root causes. Perhaps "legitimize research" needs to expand beyond pharmaceuticals when addressing treatments for chronic illnesses.

As it stands right now, improving the quality and health of your mitochondria results in improved health.

Oh dear... I still don't think you get it. I'd like you to find some of what I call legit research in well reputed journals that don't use testimonials as 'evidence' of anything and show me the same 'results' as you claim occur in your last note. Of course there may be recent improvements in treatment for MS, but I'll be more convinced if I see it coming consistently from those journals and not the one you ref'd. That's all.

Julie, Oh I do understand...

You would like to see diet information treated the same way as drug information in the journals that are mostly interested in the safety and efficacy of new drugs approved by the FDA. Unfortunately diets don't have the same funding as drugs and usually show up 10 - 15 years later in the journals.

In "my world" many people don't have the luxury of time. We cautiously try to duplicate the results indicated by others and test often to try to avoid risks. It is not ideal by any means.

In 10 years we can get together again. You can tell me theoretically what is possible from the various journals and I will share what has actually been accomplished.

Sure, let's meet on the corner of OSA and Cpap (if it's still around then ) and see what's what.

HoseCrusher wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:39 pm

I will share what has actually been accomplished.

quantifiable, *verifiable* results only please, not "I went on the internet and I found THIS!"

KnightSleeper wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:30 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:51 pm

HoseCrusher wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:39 pm

I will share what has actually been accomplished.

quantifiable, *verifiable* results only please, not "I went on the internet and I found THIS!"

What do you mean!!! - - - I find some of my best info on the internet!!! - - - Especially here on CPAP!!!

I was hoping someone would catch the reference... hrmph.