Newbie Self Diagnosis - In Denial - AHI Question

[marktheshark]

I was just wondering if my pressure increase had anything to do with me lowering the epr.

Lowering EPR effectively increases the pressure on exhale so the overall average pressure will increase. Law of numbers at work.
No big deal and nothing to worry about.
If you turned EPR off totally...the overall average would increase again because there wouldn't be any drop during exhale at all to lower any averages or numbers.

Thank you, makes perfect sense.

[zoocrewphoto]

Thank you, I will try that and also try and upload the screen shot. I do know that I was tossing and turning and wrestling the hose quit a bit since I'm still getting use to it.

If you were tossing and turning a lot, some of those centrals may be from that. If so, they will become fewer as you get used to to sleeping with the machine.

[marktheshark]

Thank you, I will try that and also try and upload the screen shot. I do know that I was tossing and turning and wrestling the hose quit a bit since I'm still getting use to it.

If you were tossing and turning a lot, some of those centrals may be from that. If so, they will become fewer as you get used to sleeping with the machine.

That's what I believe now more than ever.

[marktheshark]

Hello again.

I continue to use the machine nightly, but I am still dealing with air coming out of my mouth a lot. I ordered a few different full masks to see how it goes.

In the meantime, I had another question.

I big part of the reason that brought me here is about 3 years ago I got a very bad viral infection of some kind and never got my normal energy back after it.

During that same time of getting past the virus, I went thru a significant level of stress, my wife had to have lung surgery from a childhood illness which she is doing much better from. We had to travel across the country to Denver and stayed there for 2 months while she had testing and then finally the surgery. Then once we got past that, her father had a stroke and we spent another month in a hotel closer to where he was treated, thankfully he is doing great now. Needless to say, my health not returning followed by my wife's surgery, I dealt with a significant level of stress and anxiety. For the first 1-2 years, I dealt with severe insomnia, it wasn’t until this past March that I started sleeping again, but it was by no means good sleep. I have dealt with sleep issues most of my adult life and have always struggled in the mornings and have always been dependent on something kind of stimulant to get me going. So my long-term sleep history lead me to try cpap.
With my health not returning, I was run thru the ringer with tests to see what was wrong with me, the only thing that turned up was low Vitamin D which I have since corrected.

My question is, with so much time not sleeping or not sleeping well, what could that have done to my sleep cycle?

When I do manage to sleep thru the night and still feel terrible, could it be I messed my sleep patterns up so badly that they need to be corrected?

I know I have a tremendous amount of sleep debt, could that also be part of my problem?

I am sorry to ramble on, I am just feeling very hopeless and I am always looking for ways to find encouragement to keep going.

[ChicagoGranny]

When I do manage to sleep thru the night and still feel terrible, could it be I messed my sleep patterns up so badly that they need to be corrected?

Try really strict sleep hygiene. Include good diet and moderate exercise. Get early morning sun. No caffeine - not even "hidden" small amounts in things like chocolate and green tea. Some decaf coffees still have amounts of caffeine that are significant to sensitive people.

Browse "sleep hygiene" and read a couple of articles from reputable sources.

[zonker]

Get early morning sun.

i'm curious...what is the distinction between this and say, noon day sun?

[ChicagoGranny]

Get early morning sun.

i'm curious...what is the distinction between this and say, noon day sun?

I guess they have some studies to back this up --->

When you're ready to begin the day, exposing your body to the sun will not only help alert the brain and set you in motion, it will also help you sleep later on.

http://sleepfoundation.org/bedroom/see.php

Feels good to me. I was up walking in the dark this morning and walked until the sun was in my face. (Had to call my nanny to come get me - too tired to walk home.)

[ChicagoGranny]

BTW, recently they found out the noonday sun is less harmful to the skin than early morning sun. It also creates more vit D in the human body.

See if you can find links to the science explaining the different rays effects on the body.

[palerider]

BTW, recently they found out the noonday sun is less harmful to the skin than early morning sun. It also creates more vit D in the human body.

See if you can find links to the science explaining the different rays effects on the body.

The only difference I can think of is the amount of atmospheric filtering the light experiences on it's way to you.

With less filtering, one would think that noonday sun would be the most harmful, but, being ore intense, it makes sense that it would stimulate more Vitamin D production.

[zonker]

Get early morning sun.

i'm curious...what is the distinction between this and say, noon day sun?

I guess they have some studies to back this up --->

When you're ready to begin the day, exposing your body to the sun will not only help alert the brain and set you in motion, it will also help you sleep later on.

http://sleepfoundation.org/bedroom/see.php

Feels good to me. I was up walking in the dark this morning and walked until the sun was in my face. (Had to call my nanny to come get me - too tired to walk home.)

how interesting! my inclination is to retire late and sleep late. i used to be able to stay awake until 2 or 3 am then sleep until noon. while i'm not able to do that any more, i'm still not a morning person. so i don't often see the morning sun much less get any of the benefits.

anyway, i apologize to the OP for interrupting the thread.

[ChicagoGranny]

I don't have a lot of trust in The Guardian, but here is what they have to say.

Englishmen – and other Britons – were urged today to go out in the midday sun to ensure adequate levels of vitamin D.

Contrary to the cover-up message in Noel Coward's song about mad dogs and Englishmen, experts now say some unprotected sun exposure is necessary for good health.

A consensus statement by seven leading health groups and charities recommended 10 to 15 minutes of bare skin exposure three times a week in the summer.

This should ideally take place at midday, they said. Before 10am and after 4pm the rays are too weak in the UK even in summer to stimulate vitamin D synthesis in the skin.


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But the statement also said people should "never be red" at the end of the day. After 10 to 15 minutes it is time to go indoors, cover up or slap on the sunscreen.

Safety advice has softened since fear of skin cancer meant everyone was encouraged to avoid the sun, but this has led to confusion. Today's guidance is intended to make it clear that "little and frequent" sun exposure is now officially considered a good thing.

The consensus statement represents the views of the British Association of Dermatologists, Cancer Research UK, Diabetes UK, the Multiple Sclerosis Society, the National Heart Forum, the National Osteoporosis Society and the Primary Care Dermatology Society.

Key to the advice is striking a balance between adequate vitamin D levels for healthy bones and avoiding skin cancer.

Vitamin D can be obtained from diet but is primarily manufactured in the skin by a process that involves ultraviolet B rays from the sun. Too little vitamin D can lead to rickets in children and brittle bones in adults.

Speaking to journalists in London, Professor Rona Mackie from the British Association of Dermatologists and the University of Glasgow said: "Little and frequent sun exposure, for the UK, is the safest and best way to boost vitamin D synthesis.

"We have to put over the message that sunshine is enjoyable. Some of the messages have been a bit too negative.

"UK summer sunshine by and large is not desperately strong. It's important not to translate the Australian sun avoidant messages straight to the UK.

"At the moment the suggestion is that exposing the face, arms and legs to the sun for 10 to 15 minutes three times a week is going to do no harm.

"This is probably best done in the middle of the day rather than at either end of the day. Sun before 10 and after four probably doesn't stimulate much vitamin D synthesis."

She said winter holidays to sunnier climes might also be beneficial – but ruled out skiing trips, even to sunny mountain slopes, because warmth was needed for maximum vitamin D manufacture and skiers tended to be too covered up.

Sunbeds were not recommended because they mainly generate UVA rays, which produce little vitamin D.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... n-vitamins

[jnk...]

Get early morning sun.

i'm curious...what is the distinction between this and say, noon day sun?

Getting the light early in the day is supposed to help align your internal clocks so that you are sleepy at bed time.

[palerider]

I don't have a lot of trust in The Guardian, but here is what they have to say.

Englishmen – and other Britons – were urged today to go out in the midday sun to ensure adequate levels of vitamin D.

Contrary to the cover-up message in Noel Coward's song about mad dogs and Englishmen, experts now say some unprotected sun exposure is necessary for good health.

One thing to keep in mind about that.... The south of the UK is at the same lattitude as middle of *Canada*.

[ChicagoGranny]

Yeah, they mention,

"UK summer sunshine by and large is not desperately strong. It's important not to translate the Australian sun avoidant messages straight to the UK.

Dallasish - proceed with caution.

[marktheshark]

When I do manage to sleep thru the night and still feel terrible, could it be I messed my sleep patterns up so badly that they need to be corrected?

Try really strict sleep hygiene. Include good diet and moderate exercise. Get early morning sun. No caffeine - not even "hidden" small amounts in things like chocolate and green tea. Some decaf coffees still have amounts of caffeine that are significant to sensitive people.

Browse "sleep hygiene" and read a couple of articles from reputable sources.

Thank you, I will try this!