Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by Sludge » Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:25 am

robysue wrote:So I now invite all of y'all to a new guessing game: How much will the estimate for the repairs be?
I believe the Part# for the board you need is 1061232.

A similar board costs

http://www.cpapusa.com/cpap-sleep-apnea ... T1864.html

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http://www.amazon.com/Laserline-Clear-C ... B0009WX4B6

Where to look for broken/loose solder joints (at the Molex card reader):

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by JDS74 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:58 am

The correct board for your machine is likely this one.
http://www.cpapusa.com/search/Respironi ... T1904.html

Getting it repaired rather than replaced is better. Hopefully the diagnosis will be a manufacturing defect and the board can be replaced at no cost to you except possibly some labor costs.

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by Sludge » Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:12 am

JDS74 wrote:The correct board for your machine is likely this one.
http://www.cpapusa.com/search/Respironi ... T1904.html
No it is NOT.

Please stop posting about things you know nothing about.

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by Guest » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:52 am

robysue wrote: So I now invite all of y'all to a new guessing game: How much will the estimate for the repairs be?
I am resolutely certain this repair would be more than I want to pay. I remember for the M series the card module was available separately.

So I would render this unit unusable the way it is so the DME would have to "replace" the machine. I know how to disable the machine but if you are not technically inclined that may not be an option. Today most insurers will not replace the machine until it no longer works

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by robysue » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:36 am

Guest wrote:
robysue wrote: So I now invite all of y'all to a new guessing game: How much will the estimate for the repairs be?
I am resolutely certain this repair would be more than I want to pay. I remember for the M series the card module was available separately.

So I would render this unit unusable the way it is so the DME would have to "replace" the machine. I know how to disable the machine but if you are not technically inclined that may not be an option. Today most insurers will not replace the machine until it no longer works
The problem with this scam (and that is what you are proposing) is threefold:
  1. It's a scam: It's an attempt to get someone other than me to pay the entire replacement cost for something you want me to intentionally break. And that's a scam. And I don't do scams.
  2. Should the report come back that the machine is not repairable, the fact that it is over a year out warranty means that it is highly unlikely that PR will volunteer to replace the machine gratis due to a "manufacturing problem". And if PR sees no need to simply replace the machine, I'll have a whopping 50% copay on a new machine. The first time around, my DME billed my insurance company and myself the exact amount of money cpap.com listed as the price for a PR System One Auto + humidifier. In other words, my DME does not "bill" ridiculous amounts above and beyond the cost a high quality machine. The new Series 60 PR BiPAP + heated humidifier lists at $1868 at CPAP.com. So should the machine be deemed unrepairable, I'll be paying 50% of roughly $1900, or $950 if my insurance is willing to pay its 50% since the machine is out of warranty.
  3. But my insurance is niggardly about cpap supplies and replacements. Should a report come back from PR that it looks as though the damage is from possible user abuse and that the machine is not repairable, my insurance company may say that I have to pick up 100% of the cost of the new machine since it is less than 5 years old. (Heck my insurance may say that even if the report says "normal wear and tear" on the machine as the reason it needs to be replaced.) And even at a place like CPAP.com, a brand new PR BiPAP Auto + humidifier is going to set me back at least $1868.
So even if I were willing to participate in something that I regard as a scam, the risks are HIGH if I were to get caught and the BENEFITS are (marginally speaking) not that great.

Here's the thing: I don't mind paying a reasonable amount of $$ for having the machine repaired. And a properly repaired machine is acceptable to me. The only thing my hubby's brand new Series 60 APAP has that I wish mine had is a 1-day AHI display on the LCD. Yes, he could get a heated hose if he wanted one. But I really don't need or want a heated hose: Rainout problems are non-existent to me; the only time I've had rainout was on a titration test done on (older) PR titration equipment with the old style humidifier. And I just don't see the need to breathe in prewarmed air since I dislike sleeping in a swamp anyway.

Finally, I know that "reasonable amount of $$" is in the eye of the beholder. And hubby and I are both at the high end of what "reasonable amount of $$ for repair" in terms of repairing vs replacing decisions go.

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by JDS74 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:05 pm

Right on Robysue!

I only mentioned the manufacturing defect issue because a couple of years ago a poster mentioned getting his machine repaired at ACCBio and during the service, they found something and negotiated with Respironics for a no cost replacement main board. I never thought that a new machine was a likely result.

After all, it is out of warranty but we see recalls all the time with other types of devices even well after they are out of warranty. Just a thought.

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by Guest » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:19 pm

Not sure what you mean by this?
robysue wrote:But my insurance is niggardly about cpap supplies and replacements.

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by squid13 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:23 pm

Guest wrote:Not sure what you mean by this?

robysue wrote:But my insurance is niggardly about cpap supplies and replacements.
It means in a nutshell their tight wads. See here https://www.google.com/search?q=niggard ... channel=sb and it doesn't mean what you are about to imply.

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by Guest » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:27 pm

squid13 wrote:
Guest wrote:Not sure what you mean by this?

robysue wrote:But my insurance is niggardly about cpap supplies and replacements.
It means in a nutshell their tight wads. See here ... and it doesn't mean what you are about to imply.
You are wise beyond your years if you can read both her mind and mine.

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by robysue » Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:06 pm

squid13 wrote:
Guest wrote:Not sure what you mean by this?

robysue wrote:But my insurance is niggardly about cpap supplies and replacements.
It means in a nutshell their tight wads. See here https://www.google.com/search?q=niggard ... channel=sb and it doesn't mean what you are about to imply.
Squid,

Thank you for pointing this definition out. It is indeed the definition that I intended and it IS a perfectly good word to use under the circumstances. And it describes my insurance's approach to replacing PAP supplies perfectly: They have a long drawn out replacement schedule for masks, mask cushions, and filters AND they make me pay a hefty 50% copay on EVERYTHING. And yes, there was a 50% copay on the machine itself.

As for the other word that looks closely related in print ....
I am a liberal Southerner in terms of family heritage. I am extremely aware and sensitive to how people can and do react to the "N" word, particularly when applied to people. My parents made the conscious decision to leave Mississippi in 1963 (when I was 5) because they did not want their children to be exposed to the ugliness of what white Mississippians were doing on a pretty regular basis. And while I grew up hearing the "N" word regularly from older family members, my parents made it clear that the word was not appropriate at any time even if "Grandma" and "Daddy Jack (my grandfather)" and my aunts and uncles regularly used it.

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by Guest » Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:29 pm

robysue wrote:
Guest wrote:Not sure what you mean by this?

As for the other word that looks closely related in print ....
I am a liberal Southerner in terms of family heritage. I am extremely aware and sensitive to how people can and do react to the "N" word, particularly when applied to people. My parents made the conscious decision to leave Mississippi in 1963 (when I was 5) because they did not want their children to be exposed to the ugliness of what white Mississippians were doing on a pretty regular basis. And while I grew up hearing the "N" word regularly from older family members, my parents made it clear that the word was not appropriate at any time even if "Grandma" and "Daddy Jack (my grandfather)" and my aunts and uncles regularly used it.
And if all that were true, I think you would have chosen another word.

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by bwexler » Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:57 pm

When I spoke to ACCBio last year they suggested an estimate of $350 to replace the main board wich would include a thorough cleaning and testing of the entire machine.

So my entry in the pool is $350 pluses shipping.

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by JDS74 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:15 pm

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:50 pm

It looks like this conversation about a card reader is about to be sucked into a black hole!

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Re: Bad SD card reader on my BiPAP??

Post by archangle » Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:07 pm

Sludge wrote:I believe the Part# for the board you need is 1061232.

A similar board costs

http://www.cpapusa.com/cpap-sleep-apnea ... T1864.html
Dang, you're a veritable fount of information. Thanks. I'm amazed that there's a place that sells CPAP parts to us mere mortals. (assuming they do.)

I got to get me one of these.

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