woodworkerjunkie wrote:I'm sorry 49er, that is a pretty bad example you picked to be considered "hateful bigoted comments"! Nothing hateful about it, just my opinion! I'm not going to break it down piece by piece, but the hole point is, if a person can afford to drive a new car, own cell phones with unlimited everything, have the biggest cable package and fastest internet package offered, while receiving government help for housing and food, then "I"(me, myself, and I) believe that they are probably abusing the system! Period. Nothing hateful, or bigoted about it! If they are going to receive these benefits from the government, then yes a drug screen once a year so that the government can check to see if they are using tax dollars to buy alcohol or drugs! "I" don't think that is to much to ask! My opinion! Yours may differ and I may not like your opinion, but I won't call you a bigot! Of course, you did read far enough into it that says "able bodied people not willing to work", I never said anything about disabled people, single working mothers or fathers! Maybe I should have stated that first instead of half way through, but that is the people that I'm talking about. I know there are a lot of honest hard working people that need a hand to try to make ends meet, but, there are a bunch of lazy moochers out there that want everything handed to them and expect someone else to pay for it! I have to have random drug and alcohol test for my job and I'm not receiving any kind of assistance from the government, so why would it be a problem for them to do the same?49er wrote:WoodWorkerJunkie saidOhHelpMe wrote:I am tired of the hateful bigoted comments stereotyping people who are going through misfortune.
And where in this thread do you find "hateful bigoted comments stereotyping people who are going through misfortune"?
Or is that something you just made up in order to make "hateful bigoted comments stereotyping people" who have different viewpoints from your own?49erIf your already on government assistance and receiving any kind of benefit for food, shelter, or unemployment, then you should only have a cell phone with very limited minutes for emergencies and job interviews, drug screening at least once a year, no cable tv and very limited internet service! If your found in violation, you start losing your benefits! If you want a $600 cell phone with unlimited everything or a $100 a month cable package with HBO and Showtime, or a car that's less then 6 years old, do it with your own money, not the tax payers that are out busting their butts every day. But, I guess that would be to much to ask! People seem to think that (able bodied) people that are not willing to work, or think they should only work a 40 hour week, should have the same luxuries of the everyday hard working citizen. WHY? Give them the bare necessities to live and if they want more in life, then that should motivate them to get up and go to work everyday like everyone else, or at least try to improve themselves! When you give people "free stuff", they get lazy and expect more and then start demanding more! Sound familiar! Like striking for $15 an hour to flip hamburgers! I have worked 10 to 14 hours a day for the past 30+ years and barely make $15 an hour! With a helluva lot more responsibility on my back than flipping hamburgers or not burning the fries!Never said anything about free phones,ipads, mansion, Mercedes,laptop,free lobster and steak, nor access to free medical care or equipment or free healthcare community clinics! Your awfully quick to change everything around that someone has said to suit your own needs, I will break this down, so that you might be able to understand my position better!my finding about those government programs that are allegedly available that would give me free iphones with luxurious features, a IPAD, a mansion with 9 bedrooms, a Mercedes, a laptop, access to free lobster and steak, enough money to live without working since I am unemployed and access to free sleep studies, pap machines and supplies at free healthcare community clinics.
healthcare community clinics.
I stated that people can go to these federally funded clinics, that are based on their income, if their income is small enough or they are uninsured, most services are free or at very little cost, based on income. So here is a link to my "alleged" community clinics! http://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov
shelter(housing) This was back in the 80's..The free housing program for people with little to no income, I'm sure you've heard of it!(some call them the projects) They will even pay most of your electric and pay all of your water bill, imagine that! I personally knew a woman living in one of these apartments with her teenage son and had her boyfriend living with her that was in the military! He was not supposed to be living there! When I walked in, there was a nice big screen TV (for the time frame), a stereo system that would easily run over $1500, and probably over a thousand dollars worth of home interior decor hanging all over her walls. She had nicer "stuff" throughout her apartment, than me and my wife could afford to purchase and we both worked 50 hours a week each! She's living there free, pays no water or sewer and payed $20 a month for electric, and was receiving $600 a month in food stamps. $600 was a lot for groceries in the 80's.
food (food stamps, now ebt cards) Again back in the 80's.. I was an assistant manager at a independent grocery store and witnessed food stamp fraud on a regular bases! Had a woman come in and order over $350 worth of steaks and filet mignon and said she would be back in about an hour to pick it up. I was up front at the registers when she came back and paid for her order with food stamps. (no ebt card, this is back when it was food stamp vouchers in books) I watched our employee carry her order out and place it in a 1 year old Cadillac. Of course there is no way that this could be abusing our food stamp system! Watched another man buy at least 8 country ham's on sale (two at a time, leave and come back, same day, near Christmas), and pay for them with food stamps every time. Do you think he might have been taking them out and selling them for cash to get a little Christmas money? My all time favorite, give each kid a 1 dollar food stamp to buy a 5 cent piece of candy, then buy either a beer or a pack of cigarettes with all the change! Nah, no fraud at all going on in these programs! Before I get all the comments, "I should have turned them in", I reported each one of these incidents to the store owner and was told, "not to worry about it, if they didn't spend them here they would just do it somewhere else!"
unemployment When it comes to unemployment, unless you live a very sheltered life, I'm sure you have heard of some people (maybe even know someone) that will draw their unemployment and then work and be paid cash under the table.
My question for you; where were you when the insults like teabagger, Who let these people out of daycare, Repubtards (in another thread) were being thrown around? You only seem to get offended when it's from someone from the "other" side!
I just noticed that 49er didn't bother to defend herself by responding to this long, drawn out post. As the teens say... good on you, 49er!
