One day you will be able to purchase a CPAP at WALMART

THANK YOU!!!!

The whole point in this post was to bring into an intelligent discussion the fact that we don't have the FREEDOM to decide what's best for ourselves without the mediation of bureaucratic institutions in America.

Americans (we) are being "domesticated" to be patronized in everything. "You want a cell phone?" "yes!" "Well... we have 3 plans for you that includes this amount of minutes and no msgs..." "Wait! I want this... bla bla bla" "Sorry! we can't adapt the plans to your needs!"
Europe and Asia sold UNLOCKED CELL PHONES while in America that was an insult! Can't you see that if you were able to buy the latest phone in the market you could be ahead the rest of the customers at at@t or t-mobil or sprint? We want you to buy a HARDWARE that keeps you LINKED to us for as long as the phone is popular! then I go

The same thing with CPAPs! You pay for a test and you get whatever machine we tell you to use! Then I go... but I don't have health insurance! and the small amount of money I could afford I don't want to spend it in going through a test that will show me what I already know: I HAVE F... APNEA!
"Sorry!... Is our way or the highway!" so get a health insurance and stop bothering us!

Tonight "THEY" will air our favorite movie in X channel... then to be able to watch a movie that only would last 1 hour... I have to spend 3 hours in front of the screen watching more commercials than film! why!??? because we are educated to accept what someone who believes he or she knows better than you as a person thinks it is the way to go.

Stop talking and writing insults against those who the only thing they want is to validate their rights as consumers and be able to buy whatever they want to!

ChicagoGranny wrote:

One day you will be able to purchase a CPAP at WALMART

I agree with your sentiment if not the detail.

Hopefully the people arguing against you will look again and note the words, "will be able".

This is not a program to force people to buy CPAP machines at WalMart. But please give us who want to do so the freedom to make our own choices in life. No prescription requirement, no requirement for DME license to distribute.

The whole point in this post was to bring into an intelligent discussion the fact that we don't have the FREEDOM to decide what's best for ourselves without the mediation of bureaucratic institutions in America.

It is your stupid misinformation and ranting that destroyed any validity of this thread. There is no "intelligence" in any of your posts and any attempt to correct your misinformation is met with scream of horror on your part.
Nothing you have said can be taken seriously anymore.

Why I can buy a TANK or a warplane if I had the money and I can't buy for myself the latest AUTOPAP machine without a medical prescription? I will use MY MONEY and this is my own business what I do with MY F... MONEY!

I OWN A GUN... For self-defense of course... I even have license to carry it under my shirt... OHHH! But a CPAP machine is different, Sr! CPAP OR AUTOPAP machines are far too dangerous... Sr!

Tell me this: How many people have died because they used a CPAP to help them sleep? I heard many examples of people who did f... died because they did not used them but what's wrong if you want to give it a try and use it WITHOUT THE DOCTOR GIVING YOU A GREEN LIGHT?

I'm tired of those IGNORANTS who can't see the point and have no clue what FREEDOM is even when it comes to decide what you want to buy!

remhunter wrote:Why I can buy a TANK or a warplane if I had the money and I can't buy for myself the latest AUTOPAP machine without a medical prescription? I will use MY MONEY and this is my own business what I do with MY F... MONEY!

I OWN A GUN... For self-defense of course... I even have license to carry it under my shirt... OHHH! But a CPAP machine is different, Sr! CPAP OR AUTOPAP machines are far too dangerous... Sr!

Tell me this: How many people have died because they used a CPAP to help them sleep? I heard many examples of people who did f... died because they did not used them but what's wrong if you want to give it a try and use it WITHOUT THE DOCTOR GIVING YOU A GREEN LIGHT?

I'm tired of those IGNORANTS who can't see the point and have no clue what FREEDOM is even when it comes to decide what you want to buy!

Where can I buy a tank? I want to buy a tank.

I really think you need a psiquiatric evaluation the sooner the better

BlackSpinner wrote:

The whole point in this post was to bring into an intelligent discussion the fact that we don't have the FREEDOM to decide what's best for ourselves without the mediation of bureaucratic institutions in America.

It is your stupid misinformation and ranting that destroyed any validity of this thread. There is no "intelligence" in any of your posts and any attempt to correct your misinformation is met with scream of horror on your part.
Nothing you have said can be taken seriously anymore.

ChicagoGranny wrote:

One day you will be able to purchase a CPAP at WALMART

I agree with your sentiment if not the detail.

Hopefully the people arguing against you will look again and note the words, "will be able".

This is not a program to force people to buy CPAP machines at WalMart. But please give us who want to do so the freedom to make our own choices in life. No prescription requirement, no requirement for DME license to distribute.

You can already do this in the aftermarket, you just can't do it retail yet.
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remhunter wrote:I really think you need a psychiatric evaluation the sooner the better

BlackSpinner wrote:

The whole point in this post was to bring into an intelligent discussion the fact that we don't have the FREEDOM to decide what's best for ourselves without the mediation of bureaucratic institutions in America.

It is your stupid misinformation and ranting that destroyed any validity of this thread. There is no "intelligence" in any of your posts and any attempt to correct your misinformation is met with scream of horror on your part.
Nothing you have said can be taken seriously anymore.

There I corrected that for you. Don't you feel better now?

I OWN A GUN... For self-defense of course... I even have license to carry it under my shirt... OHHH! But a CPAP machine is different, Sr! CPAP OR AUTOPAP machines are far too dangerous... Sr!

Guns are simple things. Nobody much cares if they go wrong and blow up the clown holding it. Medical devices, on the other hand, are expensive to develop and must pass approval of the FDA to show they work and don't cause more harm then the help. They are not supposed to be used to kill people AND they are supposed to do what they say they do.

But I absolutely agree All guns should be made illegal and confiscated immediately and cpap machines made available free of charge - paid for by your taxes.

I see we both agree My point is that sleep test and prescriptions should be optional. I believe that everyone who actually needs a cpap machine and have no insurance and no prescription should be allowed to purchase one with his or her own money. That's the whole issue from the beginnig.

remhunter wrote:I see we both agree My point is that sleep test and prescriptions should be optional. I believe that everyone who actually needs a cpap machine and have no insurance and no prescription should be allowed to purchase one with his or her own money. That's the whole issue from the beginnig.

We really don't give a tinkers damn what you "THINK"... we are here to help each other out with problems with their therapy.
AND FOR YOUR INFO..... YES, WE CAN BUY AN AUTO MACHINE WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION FOR A SMALL AMOUNT OF $$$.... AND TITRATE OURSELVES!!!!
Maybe if you got off your soapbox and read a few threads here you would learn for yourself. For your further info.... your rant (or opinion as you call it) is a big symptom of untreated sleep apnea OR that of a bored individual that just wants to stir up trouble.

You can fade into the woodwork now .

remhunter wrote:I see we both agree My point is that sleep test and prescriptions should be optional. I believe that everyone who actually needs a cpap machine and have no insurance and no prescription should be allowed to purchase one with his or her own money. That's the whole issue from the beginnig.

I can do that at anytime. In fact I bought one from STL in January.
Getting tested cost me nothing (except taxes) Getting a prescription cost me nothing. My doctor was not interested in controlling my data or seeing me again needlessly to make a profit because he had more work then he can handle with far more interesting patients. The only people making big profits here from cpap therapy are the the local DME's (Who technically here don't need a prescription but ask for one anyway).

Anyone who can afford a laptop can afford a cpap machine bought online or second hand. It just depends on where your priorities lie.

remhunter wrote:THANK YOU!!!!

The whole point in this post was to bring into an intelligent discussion the fact that we don't have the FREEDOM to decide what's best for ourselves without the mediation of bureaucratic institutions in America.

Americans (we) are being "domesticated" to be patronized in everything. "You want a cell phone?" "yes!" "Well... we have 3 plans for you that includes this amount of minutes and no msgs..." "Wait! I want this... bla bla bla" "Sorry! we can't adapt the plans to your needs!"
Europe and Asia sold UNLOCKED CELL PHONES while in America that was an insult! Can't you see that if you were able to buy the latest phone in the market you could be ahead the rest of the customers at at@t or t-mobil or sprint? We want you to buy a HARDWARE that keeps you LINKED to us for as long as the phone is popular! then I go

The same thing with CPAPs! You pay for a test and you get whatever machine we tell you to use! Then I go... but I don't have health insurance! and the small amount of money I could afford I don't want to spend it in going through a test that will show me what I already know: I HAVE F... APNEA!
"Sorry!... Is our way or the highway!" so get a health insurance and stop bothering us!

Tonight "THEY" will air our favorite movie in X channel... then to be able to watch a movie that only would last 1 hour... I have to spend 3 hours in front of the screen watching more commercials than film! why!??? because we are educated to accept what someone who believes he or she knows better than you as a person thinks it is the way to go.

Stop talking and writing insults against those who the only thing they want is to validate their rights as consumers and be able to buy whatever they want to!

Perhaps a prescription should be required for the consumption of emoticons.
You are seriously overdosing.

Regards, Nate

This thread makes me thankful for the fantastic gun laws we have in Australia.

Live on universal health care!

+1

Would you buy a defibrillator from Walmart

If not, why would you even consider buying any other therapeutic device from them

BlackSpinner wrote:But I absolutely agree All guns should be made illegal and confiscated immediately and cpap machines made available free of charge - paid for by your taxes.

Don't call me when something happens at your house... I don't don't show up without weapons...

Sheriff