NEW, IMPROVED TAP PAP MOUTHPIECE!

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:06 pm

squid13 wrote:Maybe if you tilted them then you would see the difference from the back.

New mouth guard. Sorry..a bit blurry...tried a bunch of times but these are the best I can do.

Tilted and upside down...to see the bottom

Tilted viewing from the top

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:13 pm

Yahoo finally updated my home email, and I got my code now.
(a shoppin' I will go, a shoppin' I will go)

DJD52 · Post by **DJD52** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:24 pm

Pugsy wrote:Photos of the new (on the left) mouth guard and the original version (on the right). It's still hard to see right behind the front teeth on the new but there is no rim or edge of plastic behind the front teeth. Nothing there except teeth. When I put my tongue behind my front teeth the only thing I feel is the back of my front teeth.

Thanks Pugsy!
That is what I needed to see! Thanks for taking time to take the photos!

kteague · Post by **kteague** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:51 pm

Been riding the fence on ordering one - glad I waited and can get the 2nd generation. The sale and report on the changes is just the nudge I needed.

Zzzzzzzzzzz... · Post by **Zzzzzzzzzzz...** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:06 pm

Just ordered one. What the hell.

Z

rosacer · Post by **rosacer** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:57 pm

Thanks for the pictures Pugsy.

Do you need a new camera ?

That mask is tempting me

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:25 am

Those close-ups are difficult because the camera can't autofocus on an angled surface.
Sometimes, locking focus on a flat object (dummy, or stand-in) the average distance,
and then pulling the dummy subject away before taking the shot can help. (Takes at least 2 hands)
I've done some odd things; a previous camera phone had no macro feature,
so I used the lens out of a pair of cheap reading glasses. Goofy, but effective.
My new mouthpiece is on its way. Happy, happy.

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:34 am

rosacer wrote: Do you need a new camera ?

Camera is great...user is not so great.
It doesn't help that I tend to shake a bit whenever I am trying to be real still.
The camera will do stuff that I have no idea what all it means...way above my skill level. I have to let it auto adjust and go with what I get.

chunkyfrog wrote:Those close-ups are difficult because the camera can't autofocus on an angled surface.
Sometimes, locking focus on a flat object (dummy, or stand-in) the average distance,
and then pulling the dummy subject away before taking the shot can help. (Takes at least 2 hands)

Yeah, I could tell that the auto focus was having problems but I have no idea what to do to fix the issue.
Instead we just roll with what I got...it gives a good enough idea anyway.

Main thing that is easily seen would be the absence of the material behind the front teeth. Those people who already have the mouth guard can easily see what will be gone. The overall thinner thing is not so easily seen in pictures but once you have it in your hands and mouth then you will feel the difference.

Maybe today I will boil the old one and do my planned butcher job on it. It should be fairly easy to cut while still clear and pliable if I work quickly.

rosacer · Post by **rosacer** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:00 am

Pugsy I only wanted to make you laugh a bit but I'm sure you can decipher that camera instructions you are the Queen of instructions I'm sure !

I contacted cpap.com to ask how it would work the insurance for me here in Canada and the only thing I was able to have clarified from the dear lady who answers was:

a) the mask needs to be back in 30 days max
b) It cost $17 shipping, (I knew it no need to have it told again thanks)
c) they don't know how much time does it takes to arrive here

Wonderful useless information = USELESS INSURANCE for me because if she doesn't know how many days/weeks does it takes to arrive here it will take the same amount of unknown days/weeks to be back there. What will happen if the mask arrives after 30 days? I need to pay a third shipping to make it come back to me because they don't take it back? Funny, very funny

I think I'm not ready to buy that mask even if I would like to try it, BUMMER

I think they could be a bit more flexible when they know somebody is buying from Canada, we are not in Timbuktu in any case.

Rosie

Stormynights · Post by **Stormynights** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:11 am

rosacer wrote:Pugsy I only wanted to make you laugh a bit but I'm sure you can decipher that camera instructions you are the Queen of instructions I'm sure !

I contacted cpap.com to ask how it would work the insurance for me here in Canada and the only thing I was able to have clarified from the dear lady who answers was:

a) the mask needs to be back in 30 days max
b) It cost $17 shipping, (I knew it no need to have it told again thanks)
c) they don't know how much time does it takes to arrive here

Wonderful useless information = USELESS INSURANCE for me because if she doesn't know how many days/weeks does it takes to arrive here it will take the same amount of unknown days/weeks to be back there. What will happen if the mask arrives after 30 days? I need to pay a third shipping to make it come back to me because they don't take it back? Funny, very funny

I think I'm not ready to buy that mask even if I would like to try it, BUMMER
Could you contact your post office to find out how long it will take for shipping? They should be able to give you an answer.

I think they could be a bit more flexible when they know somebody is buying from Canada, we are not in Timbuktu in any case.

Rosie

rosacer · Post by **rosacer** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:27 pm

Stormy

Because I'm not a business and I don't have a business account, I think it could take maybe 2 weeks to arrive back to Cpap.com office. I told them it was coming to Canada and the smart lady answer it cost $17 I NOW IT VERY WELL. There is a message appearing when the shipping is calculate stating they don't know how many days it takes to arrive here.

In the other occasions I have bought it toke a good 1.5 week but it was a machine I don't know if there is a difference but in any case without any flexibility from their part I'm tempted to try my luck.

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:00 pm

Hi Rosie..I knew you were trying to make me laugh and regarding those instructions that came with the camera...I am totally lost with that little booklet. I was doing good to make the snapshot images small enough to email without their taking a gazillion MB.

Shipping to Canada...it's a crap shoot on how long it might take because we never know how long customs might take on either side. Normally 7 to 10 days but it can take longer...we both know that.
Once I sent a package to Japan on a Monday and it arrived the following Monday...go figure that one.
Then once I sent a package to Australia and it sat in Chicago customs for a week...go figure that one.
US Priority mail is great within the US but they tell you that once it is out of the US jurisdiction that all bets are off. They don't have any control over customs and customs is where the delays are.

I don't know what to tell you about the Tap Pap. You really need at least a little time to try it more than 1 or 2 nights.
Are you desperate to try it or just wobbling on the fence about it?
Have you ever worn a mouth guard? I remember your issues with pressure on your teeth...from just a mask and the pain you went through. The Tap Pap is sort of like wearing a girdle on your teeth. It doesn't have to be skin tight but it needs to be a tad snug.
If you are itching to try it and think you can handle the mouth guard part (that's the only real possible issue that you would have with it) maybe you and I could work out something if you hate it...maybe I could buy it from you if you can't get it back to cpap.com in time? Need to think about the mouth guard part of it though...used nasal pillows doesn't bother me but the mouth guard part sort of does. and it shouldn't because I can boil it and it goes back to like new but it bugs me a little.

Stormynights · Post by **Stormynights** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:04 pm

That is strange, my comment above disappeared. I didn't edit it out.

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:12 pm

Stormynights wrote:That is strange, my comment above disappeared. I didn't edit it out.

Hmm... I thought you were using invisible ink.
Just go back in and edit it to put it back in....maybe the forum gremlins are messing with you today.

rosacer · Post by **rosacer** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:29 pm

Pugsy,

I don't know what to think about the TAP PAP. I don't know why I can't sleep anymore on my back. The moment I'm starting to doze I start mouth farting and I roll to one side or to the belly .

My pressure is now only 6.6 cmH2O, when it was 10 or more I was able to keep the mouth shut but not now. That's the reason why I'm not 100% sure. I appreciate a TON your offer of help you are a sweet

I'm maybe crazy but I'm still hoping I can get rid of the machine I have a sleep test in December. If I sleep without the machine I wake up with a small dizziness and not as refreshed as when I use the machine. It makes me think I'm still making apenas or hypopneas in some extent, that's why I'm considering to try the TAP PAP but not sure.

The tooth pain is almost gone. It is due to fact that for a crazy reason some times I clinch the teeth. I have used a mouth guard, I have a thin one made by the dentist but I don't use it, I used also the sport mouth guard and I was able to sleep with it.

I let you know if I decide I want to try the TAP PAP. I know once one box arrived in one week but it always depends on the hands of whom it falls arriving to customs because it has also happens that the box stays one week at customs.

Stormy

Don't make lightnings, write again your comment It has happened to me that I wrote a comment and if I clic submit at the same time another person does, the comment never get posted.

Rosie

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