My husband is an a$$hole seriously!

Thoughts in no particular order:

• There is prolonged Sleep Latency
• There are Sleep Maintenance issues (which interestingly do not appear on Therapeutic Night)
• There is clear REM Dependency (and perhaps supine REM dependency)
• The drop in O2 saturation in the final REM is a baseline drop, perhaps suggesting OHS
• The AHI of 7 appears to be Whole Night AHI, so the NREM AHI may be significantly lower than 7
• The events are "only" hypopneas (at least, given this view of the report)

brucifer wrote:Please spare me the drama. You don't know anything about me, so don't pretend that you do. You don't know my past.

CMAFR.

deltadave wrote:There is prolonged Sleep Latency

Isn't it often difficult to fall asleep the first time one gets wired up to sleep in a strange bed?

deltadave wrote:There are Sleep Maintenance issues

Ditto with staying asleep, especially if the lab/center beds/rooms aren't the luxury accommodations yours are?

deltadave wrote:(which interestingly do not appear on Therapeutic Night)

It can be easier the second time, right?

deltadave wrote:There is clear REM Dependency (and perhaps supine REM dependency)

Pretty common in younger females with lower AHI, isn't it?

deltadave wrote:The drop in O2 saturation in the final REM is a baseline drop, perhaps suggesting OHS

Couldn't most, if not all, of us non-marathoners stand to lose a few pounds? And the point is to help with breathing and sleep regardless of habitus, right?

deltadave wrote:The AHI of 7 appears to be Whole Night AHI, so the NREM AHI may be significantly lower than 7

Good argument for auto?

deltadave wrote:The events are "only" hypopneas (at least, given this view of the report)

Can't hypopneas mess up sleep just as badly as apneas, especially for UARS-ish ladies?

What is OHS?

Match the answer to the question:

• Pretty common in everybody, actually.
• An excellent case for Auto.
• Yes, but given this entire scenario, weight loss should pay huge (so to speak) dividends here.
• Obesity Hypoventilation Syndrome.
• No.
• Or if a sleep aid (pharmaceutical) was taken.
• Not necessarily, and not very likely if there's significant EDS.
• Or if a sleep aid (pharmaceutical) was taken.

What are the questions to the last two answers
?

I think this is a wonderful forum where us newcomers can ask questions and get very valuable help from people who have been going through this for a lot longer and have experience and knowledge that they are willing to share. I also like that it's a place where we can vent and rant when we need to ... because, let's face it, this is no picnic. It's not an easy thing to adjust to, nor is it fun to live with.

So ... with all due respect ... it would be nice if we kept this thread on topic. I would love to see it not get hijacked. Also, the Original Poster deserves to have what she's said taken seriously and not be given a dressing-down because she might have used language that offended some. The least we can do is give her some respect and understanding. She obviously doesn't get much of that at home.

To the OP, I'm so sorry that you have to deal with both an inconsiderate hard-head AND your adjustment to cpap therapy. As someone who put up with an inconsiderate hard-head for 25 years, and divorced him, then several years later married a wonderful man who is everything the first hubby was not, I do have some understanding of what you're going through. IF it's at all possible, try to explain to him that it will take a long time for you to GRADUALLY see good results from your treatment, but eventually you will, and it will be worth the money because it WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE. But also remember this, if you never get the understanding that you deserve from him, you were you before you met him and you will always continue to be you during and afterward ... so look after YOU yourself. Find out the information you need to know and persevere on your own to get your best treatment. AND continue to post here and ask us for help, because this is a very good place to find support and excellent information.


Hawthorne ... I completely agree! Well said!

SleepingUgly wrote:What are the questions to the last two answers
?

[•Not necessarily, and not very likely if there's significant EDS.]

Isn't it often difficult to fall asleep the first time one gets wired up to sleep in a strange bed? (Overwhelming EDS should trump different surroundings).

[•Or if a sleep aid (pharmaceutical) was taken.]

It can be easier the second time, right? (That sleep looks too good for strange place plus CPAP).

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mzlaura1884,

Here is an interesting take for letting kids understand CPAP, which can include husbands too, I guess, maybe, in your case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op3MrpUzozE

Maybe he should watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kmTmXuM6NE

If he makes it through that one, he might even want to watch the extended version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gie2dhqP2c

Hopefully things will get better for you both, as they always do for Doc Sweet's patients:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=ULCC ... Ci3l-T6PiQ

Hope some of the discussion in this thread and suggestions have been helpful.

Remember, like the Yiddish proverb says: "Sleep is the best doctor."

-jeff

deltadave wrote:
What do you think about this?

Diagnostic



Therapeutic

Nice hands. Who does your nails?

jnk wrote:mzlaura1884,

Here is an interesting take for letting kids understand CPAP, which can include husbands too, I guess, maybe, in your case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op3MrpUzozE

Maybe he should watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kmTmXuM6NE

If he makes it through that one, he might even want to watch the extended version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gie2dhqP2c

Hopefully things will get better for you both, as they always do for Doc Sweet's patients:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=ULCC ... Ci3l-T6PiQ

Hope some of the discussion in this thread and suggestions have been helpful.

Remember, like the Yiddish proverb says: "Sleep is the best doctor."

-jeff

Jeff, those are some very good videos. The links deserve their own thread separate from this one. They provide some real help in explaining sleep apnea, and help understand why some of the "snake oil" treatments for sleep apnea do not work. Thank you for posting.

One thing to think about, is that people who have never been REALLY sick with something simply cannot comprehend how you cant "will" your way through this and tough it out, because thats how they've done things.

They've never come up against something this complex and it doesnt computein their minds.

The best solution would be, sad to say, for him to experience what you experience for a week. And then ask him if he wanted to trade his situation for yours.

But ive gotta be honest, he's acting like a complete jerk. Is there a spare bedroom? You could get a single mattress, set up your system, and just go in there for the night after he drops off to sleep and be done with that absolute lack of
concern and empathy. Or at least, thats what I'd do.

The other alternative would be to give him a straw and tell him he has 30 minutes to breathe through it while holding his nose shut to give him some experience. I did that with my wife. She didnt make it for 20 seconds. Unless you have a compassionate spouse youre in for a good bit of anguish anytime a serious health problem arises. Thats just a fact.

jnk wrote:Remember, like the Yiddish proverb says: "Sleep is the best doctor."

Or the old Irish proverb: "Sleep is the brother of death".

deltadave wrote:

jnk wrote:Remember, like the Yiddish proverb says: "Sleep is the best doctor."

Or the old Irish proverb: "Sleep is the brother of death".

Sorry, that's Vlad talking again...