OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by gasparama » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:25 pm

I think that for me, low carbing is the best WOE. There are scores of site with valuable information on the web. Jimmy Moore seems to provide more information that just about anyone I know. Like him or not, he's got tons of interviews with doctors and other as well as his own blog and a forum. There are a lot of recipes for holding down blood sugar spikes. I would really suggest joining a forum where people can help you by explaining what they have found that works for them.

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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by Slartybartfast » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:42 pm

Kairosgrammy wrote:In low carb eating, you don't want to quit carbs, your body needs carbs.
Bzzzt! Wrong. There is absolutely no physiological need for humans to consume carbohydrates. None at all. Your liver will generate all the carbs your body needs from fat and protein. And meat and fish, especially salmonids, contain plenty of glycogen, so eating a strict meat diet doesn't mean you're going with out carbs. The trick is to avoid consuming enough carbs to spike your insulin. Keep your insulin level low and constant and you won't be hungry and you'll lose weight.

BTW, complex carbs refer to carbohydrates composed of complex sugars such as amylose (plant starch) or glycogen (animal starch). They take some digesting, but the end result is the same: sugar. You don't need sugar. At all.

And look at the carbohydrate content of Greek yogurt sometime (Eeeek!).

Watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsWKJ0QJA_E for that precise quote from Dr. Lustig, and watch Fat Head the Movie, which is available in bits and pieces on You Tube, but is so entertaining and full of information you should spend $17 and get the DVD and watch it for yourself: http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/about/

Dr. Eades, author of a number of low-carb books, is also a wealth of information. Protein Power is a great book.
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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by Vader » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:49 pm

drdrew wrote:dont forget to EAT THE FAT.

the fat keeps you satisfied.

real fat is NOT BAD FOR YOU.

you will lose more eating a fat laiden rib eye than a skinless chicken breast....if you do it right.

fat is good.

dont believe the hype.
Fat free/Low fat versions of foods such as milk, yogurt, and cheeses, are actually considerably HIGHER in carbs than the whole versions, and should be avoided if trying to stay low carb.

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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by Slartybartfast » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:56 pm

And if you're not the type of person who likes to read, just pick up the Fat Head movie (DVD) and watch it. It contains all the information you need to know presented in an authoritative (references cited and interviewed) and humorous (Tom Naughton is a comedian/writer) way. Fer instance, standing outside a McDonalds, he interviews people to get their take on which foods were healthful and which were not. A youngish gal with a thick Russian accent was one of his victims, and he asked her without missing a beat to say, "Moose and Squirrel." She looked at him and said, "Moose and Squirrel." When my kids saw that, they just about fell off their chairs, my having gotten them the full Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoon series several years ago.

Very much worthwhile. It's true that we've been fed a bunch of balogona with respect to what constitutes a proper diet. Fortunately, the information is available, the clinical studies have been done and are ongoing that have vindicated what Dr. Atkins went on (and on) about.

Another excellent video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6vpFV6Wkl4

A great book to pick up for as little as $1.58 + 3.99 shipping is http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? ... s=dr+eades It's very well written, contains all the theory on low-carb diets and why they work that you need, and has a big section that focuses on what to eat. Very readable and informative.

Here's another: http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/satu ... eat-belly/ review on Dr. William Davis' book Wheatbelly. His thesis is that wheat and products made from it are actually addictive. He cites compelling evidence. It's a relately new idea and one that sheds light on the ubiquity of wheat in our modern diet, and the proliferation of diseases that appear to be associated with the consumption of food products made from modern hybridized wheat.

Now, don't get me started.

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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by Corkster52 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:49 pm

Another great book is "Why we get fat: And what to do about it" by Gary Taubes. He has written a number of papers and a good Google search will be a real eye opener for many folks.

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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by Lizistired » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:00 pm

Corkster52 wrote:Another great book is "Why we get fat: And what to do about it" by Gary Taubes. He has written a number of papers and a good Google search will be a real eye opener for many folks.
Or watch any of his presentations on Youtube. I'm lazy!

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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by The Choker » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:35 pm

SleepingUgly wrote:Does anyone use a protein powder that has no lactose?
Whey protein does contain lactose, but if you're mildly or moderately lactose intolerant, you may be able to use whey protein without any symptoms. Most whey protein powders contain 0.1 g of lactose per tablespoon of powder, according to the Whey Protein Institute. If you're severely lactose intolerant, you may need to use a lactose-free protein powder, such as a soy-based protein powder. Before changing your dietary habits, talk with your doctor.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/42465 ... z1mavbcjfx
I have moderate lactose intolerance but I don't like soy. The whey protein powders don't contain enough lactose to bother me.

I use lactase tablets when I eat a dairy dessert. But I guess you won't be enjoying dairy desserts on this ridiculous low carb diet.
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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by SleepingUgly » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:38 pm

I thought I read something somewhere about soy being bad...?
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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by BlackSpinner » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:00 pm

SleepingUgly wrote:I thought I read something somewhere about soy being bad...?
Do fermented soy like tofu. It works differently.

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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by SleepingUgly » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:21 pm

BlackSpinner wrote:
SleepingUgly wrote:I thought I read something somewhere about soy being bad...?
Do fermented soy like tofu. It works differently.
So what kind of soy is bad? Like soy milk or soy protein shakes?
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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by The Choker » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:06 pm

SleepingUgly wrote:I thought I read something somewhere about soy being bad...?
I posted that I don't like soy and quoted that there is almost no lactose in whey protein powders. Go back and read my post.
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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by jamiswolf » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:30 pm

SleepingUgly wrote:Does anyone use a protein powder that has no lactose?
Yes, I use an all natural soy isolate protein powder that I purchase from Puritan's Pride...online. Quite often I make a fruit/protein smoothie as a substitute for a meal. It's very concentrated protein so it lasts awhile.

And you mentioned that you really don't have that much weight to lose (if any). But keep in mind that a low carb diet is a healthier diet (or can be if done correctly).
J

Edit: Sorry, I didn't read all the page 3 posts. I've never heard of any issues with soy...but I'll certainly research it. It's a mainstay in oriental diets and they tend to have better cardiovascular health then us westerners.
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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by SleepingUgly » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:34 pm

The Choker wrote:
SleepingUgly wrote:I thought I read something somewhere about soy being bad...?
I posted that I don't like soy and quoted that there is almost no lactose in whey protein powders. Go back and read my post.
I read your post. You said that you have moderate lactose intolerant and whey doesn't bother you. I have severe lactose intolerance. I didn't mean what you wrote when I said that I read something about soy being bad. I meant not healthy.
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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by napstress » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:07 pm

Interesting topic, SU.

I've been minimizing gluten, reducing carbs, and eliminating sugar since the New Year. I had read a book about helping children with insomnia and thought I'd try out some of the advice in the dietary section for myself. I knew the only way I'd be able to do this kind of diet would be by making lists of what I could eat instead. Here's my snack list. My three rules of thumb are to eat only complex carbs, to eat small amounts at any given time, and to combine them with a larger amount of fat/protein. In this way, I am able to keep my blood sugar from dropping, which is a major key to keeping myself emotionally stable.

1) Slices of half an avocado and half an apple with lemon, salt, and paprika sprinkled on top. I picked this up from some Mexicans who work in a restaurant with my husband. It's surprisingly delicious: fatty, sweet, sour, and salty all at the same time! But anything tastes good with avocado.
2) One half mashed avocado mixed with chopped tomatoes, salt, thyme, and paprika and spread on one slice of a great-tasting whole sourdough spelt bread (by Berlin Bakery).
3) One handful of salted cashews and walnuts with one coconut-covered date.
4) One cup of plain, whole-fat yogurt with a half teaspoon of agave mixed in. I used to use more agave, but have been able to reduce it little by little.
5) And here's a favorite of my husband's: one half banana with a few spoonfuls of almond butter mixed in a bowl.

For meals, I eat carbs, but in small amounts. I eat sweet potatoes and yams instead of regular potatoes. Instead of a whole yam or sweet potato, I'll eat half. I eat quinoa instead of pasta.

Even when I am off the specific regime I'm on now, I find ways to limit my carb intake. In restaurants, I don't eat the rice, which doesn't deliver much deliciousness, anyway. I request "light on the pasta" and skip the garlic bread if it's not delicious, which it usually isn't. I'll open a burrito and eat the insides and throw away the tortilla. I limit french fries to once per week, and only eat the ones with perfect texture and shape. If I get a sandwich, I'll get it on a hard roll and rip the inside of the roll out or ask the person making it to rip it out. I like the slightly crusty exterior and dislike the fluffy stuff. Same with subs. If someone brings brownies, cake, muffins, etc. into the office, I take one mouthful. My mouth is the only thing that wants it. At Barnes & Noble, my husband and I split the chocolate chunk cookie. I break off the outer edges for him and eat the middle part myself. If I'm going to cheat by eating a cookie, I want it to be moist. My husband doesn't mind the drier outer edges. I'm lucky: it's not everyone who will eat your perimeter.
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Re: OT: Low Carb eating--What is there to eat?!

Post by SleepingUgly » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:35 pm

I have been buying the fat free plain Greek yogurt at Trader Joe's. This does not have more carbs than the ones with more fat, and it has the lowest carbs I've seen on any plain yogurt. Given that it does not have more carbs than higher fat ones, isn't it better to eat the fat-free one?
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