HOSE IT GOING?
Re: HOSE IT GOING?
Time to re-evaluate the mask? It clearly is not working for you. Won't stay sealed. Leak way out of control.
There is no hope for effective therapy at those leak levels. Leaks are so bad we can't trust the data.
Even if we could trust the data the arousals from possibly all the leaks are disrupting sleep which will also make us feel like total dog pooh.
There is no hope for effective therapy at those leak levels. Leaks are so bad we can't trust the data.
Even if we could trust the data the arousals from possibly all the leaks are disrupting sleep which will also make us feel like total dog pooh.
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Re: HOSE IT GOING?
Last night:
Usage: 4:02hrs
AHI: 0.2
AI: 0.0
Leak: 22L/min
Average pressure: 9.2
EEP: 7 (change from 11)
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 352 - 651 (What exactly does this mean?)
How do I feel: Very tired. Most of my "sleep" was without the machine.
I changed the EEP downwards. Leak is starting to be in the acceptable range but only over 4 hours.
Usage: 4:02hrs
AHI: 0.2
AI: 0.0
Leak: 22L/min
Average pressure: 9.2
EEP: 7 (change from 11)
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 352 - 651 (What exactly does this mean?)
How do I feel: Very tired. Most of my "sleep" was without the machine.
I changed the EEP downwards. Leak is starting to be in the acceptable range but only over 4 hours.
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| Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
| Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
| Additional Comments: I have a Resmed S9 ASV |
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Re: HOSE IT GOING?
VT- also known as Tidal Volumemáirtín wrote:VT: 352 - 651 (What exactly does this mean?)
the volume of air inspired or expired in one respiratory cycle (breath)
What is normal? I have no idea. Sorry.
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Re: HOSE IT GOING?
Last night:
Usage: 9:15hrs
AHI: 0.9
AI: 0.0
Leak: 20L/min
Average pressure: 9.2
EEP: 7 (change from 11)
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 325 - 571 (What exactly does this mean?)
How do I feel: Very tired. I suspect I have a sinus infection unrelated to CPAP.
I didn't use the gel pad because of the leaking.
Usage: 9:15hrs
AHI: 0.9
AI: 0.0
Leak: 20L/min
Average pressure: 9.2
EEP: 7 (change from 11)
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 325 - 571 (What exactly does this mean?)
How do I feel: Very tired. I suspect I have a sinus infection unrelated to CPAP.
I didn't use the gel pad because of the leaking.
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| Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
| Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
| Additional Comments: I have a Resmed S9 ASV |
"Bheadh sé chomh maith agat a rá," a dúirt an Luch Chodlamáin féin, "gurb ionann 'Codlaím nuair a análaím' agus 'Análaím nuair a chodlaím'!"
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Re: HOSE IT GOING?
Last night:
Usage: 7:23hrs
AHI: 0.6
AI: 0.1
Leak: 20L/min
Average pressure: 9.2
EEP: 7 (change from 11)
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 345 - 633
How do I feel: Very tired. I've used this new machine for 30 days and despite the data I don't feel any better in the morning.
Taking antibiotics for sinus infection.
Usage: 7:23hrs
AHI: 0.6
AI: 0.1
Leak: 20L/min
Average pressure: 9.2
EEP: 7 (change from 11)
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 345 - 633
How do I feel: Very tired. I've used this new machine for 30 days and despite the data I don't feel any better in the morning.
Taking antibiotics for sinus infection.
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| Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
| Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
| Additional Comments: I have a Resmed S9 ASV |
"Bheadh sé chomh maith agat a rá," a dúirt an Luch Chodlamáin féin, "gurb ionann 'Codlaím nuair a análaím' agus 'Análaím nuair a chodlaím'!"
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Re: HOSE IT GOING?
Last night:
Usage: 7:06hrs
AHI: 0.7
AI: 0.0
Leak: 19L/min
Average pressure: 9.4
EEP: 7
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 336 - 724
How do I feel: I feel very tired like I am getting enough air but not enough oxygen.
Usage: 7:06hrs
AHI: 0.7
AI: 0.0
Leak: 19L/min
Average pressure: 9.4
EEP: 7
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 336 - 724
How do I feel: I feel very tired like I am getting enough air but not enough oxygen.
_________________
| Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
| Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
| Additional Comments: I have a Resmed S9 ASV |
"Bheadh sé chomh maith agat a rá," a dúirt an Luch Chodlamáin féin, "gurb ionann 'Codlaím nuair a análaím' agus 'Análaím nuair a chodlaím'!"
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Re: HOSE IT GOING?
Last night:
Usage: 7:57hrs
AHI: 1.1 (big spike)
AI: 0.1
Leak: 30L/min
Average pressure: 9.6
EEP: 7
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 340 - 591
How do I feel: Tired, like I haven't slept.
Bigger leak than usual - mask liners should come in the mail today, hopefully.
Usage: 7:57hrs
AHI: 1.1 (big spike)
AI: 0.1
Leak: 30L/min
Average pressure: 9.6
EEP: 7
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 340 - 591
How do I feel: Tired, like I haven't slept.
Bigger leak than usual - mask liners should come in the mail today, hopefully.
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| Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
| Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
| Additional Comments: I have a Resmed S9 ASV |
"Bheadh sé chomh maith agat a rá," a dúirt an Luch Chodlamáin féin, "gurb ionann 'Codlaím nuair a análaím' agus 'Análaím nuair a chodlaím'!"
Re: HOSE IT GOING?
Hoping that you have some success taming the leak monster.máirtín wrote:Bigger leak than usual - mask liners should come in the mail today, hopefully.
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Re: HOSE IT GOING?
Thank you.
I've also ordered a spot oximeter to check saturation during the night.
Thank you for your help and insights.
I've also ordered a spot oximeter to check saturation during the night.
Thank you for your help and insights.
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| Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
| Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
| Additional Comments: I have a Resmed S9 ASV |
"Bheadh sé chomh maith agat a rá," a dúirt an Luch Chodlamáin féin, "gurb ionann 'Codlaím nuair a análaím' agus 'Análaím nuair a chodlaím'!"
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Re: HOSE IT GOING?
Last night:
Usage: 7:52hrs
AHI: 1.6 (going up) - looks like about 12 hypopea events total. Wish I could see how long they last for.
AI: 0.1
Leak: 24L/min
Average pressure: 9.6
EEP: 7
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 338 - 611
How do I feel: Tired.
I used the Pad-a-Cheek mask liner for the first time.
Usage: 7:52hrs
AHI: 1.6 (going up) - looks like about 12 hypopea events total. Wish I could see how long they last for.
AI: 0.1
Leak: 24L/min
Average pressure: 9.6
EEP: 7
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 338 - 611
How do I feel: Tired.
I used the Pad-a-Cheek mask liner for the first time.
_________________
| Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
| Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
| Additional Comments: I have a Resmed S9 ASV |
"Bheadh sé chomh maith agat a rá," a dúirt an Luch Chodlamáin féin, "gurb ionann 'Codlaím nuair a análaím' agus 'Análaím nuair a chodlaím'!"
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Re: HOSE IT GOING?
Last night:
Usage: 7:28hrs
AHI: 1.3
AI: 0.4
Leak: 21L/min
Average pressure: 9.6
EEP: 7
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 352 - 988
How do I feel: Tired.
I woke up at about 2 am. I checked my O2 saturation: 82%.
Stayed up for about an hour.
Usage: 7:28hrs
AHI: 1.3
AI: 0.4
Leak: 21L/min
Average pressure: 9.6
EEP: 7
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 352 - 988
How do I feel: Tired.
I woke up at about 2 am. I checked my O2 saturation: 82%.
Stayed up for about an hour.
_________________
| Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
| Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
| Additional Comments: I have a Resmed S9 ASV |
"Bheadh sé chomh maith agat a rá," a dúirt an Luch Chodlamáin féin, "gurb ionann 'Codlaím nuair a análaím' agus 'Análaím nuair a chodlaím'!"
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Re: HOSE IT GOING?
Last night:
Usage: 7:09hrs
AHI: 0.6
AI: 0.0
Leak: 33L/min
Average pressure: 9.6 (Never seems to change)
EEP: 7
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 366 - 575
How do I feel: Very tired.
I didn't wake up during the night so no 02 check. This morning when I got up it was a normal 97%.
I had a glass of red wine with dinner more than 3 hours before bedtime.
I have used this new machine for 45 nights.
Usage: 7:09hrs
AHI: 0.6
AI: 0.0
Leak: 33L/min
Average pressure: 9.6 (Never seems to change)
EEP: 7
Min: 5
Max 12
VT: 366 - 575
How do I feel: Very tired.
I didn't wake up during the night so no 02 check. This morning when I got up it was a normal 97%.
I had a glass of red wine with dinner more than 3 hours before bedtime.
I have used this new machine for 45 nights.
_________________
| Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
| Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
| Additional Comments: I have a Resmed S9 ASV |
"Bheadh sé chomh maith agat a rá," a dúirt an Luch Chodlamáin féin, "gurb ionann 'Codlaím nuair a análaím' agus 'Análaím nuair a chodlaím'!"
Re: HOSE IT GOING?
I take it not much luck with the liner except maybe comfort?máirtín wrote:Leak: 33L/min
This leak is very bad. Do you have a different mask that you can try? As long as this amount of leak is present we can't trust those low AHI numbers and there is no way you can remotely expect to see improvement on how you feel.
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Re: HOSE IT GOING?
I'm afraid not.
The mask liner is helping - my nose is starting to scab over and heal.
But it is not doing anything for the leaking.
Wouldn't the ASV adjust the pressure automatically to compensate for the leak?
The mask liner is helping - my nose is starting to scab over and heal.
But it is not doing anything for the leaking.
Wouldn't the ASV adjust the pressure automatically to compensate for the leak?
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| Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
| Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
| Additional Comments: I have a Resmed S9 ASV |
"Bheadh sé chomh maith agat a rá," a dúirt an Luch Chodlamáin féin, "gurb ionann 'Codlaím nuair a análaím' agus 'Análaím nuair a chodlaím'!"
Re: HOSE IT GOING?
The machine can compensate for some leak but not that much leak.máirtín wrote:Wouldn't the ASV adjust the pressure automatically to compensate for the leak?
ResMed says it can handle up to 24 L/min and above that line all bets are off and therapy along with event scoring could be significantly impaired. Remember they already subtract the intentional vent/leak rate before reporting the leak so all you see is true excess leak. Even at 20 L/min the machine probably will be stretching its ability to make up for leak.
Also the amount of increased pressure to compensate for that much leak could very well be disrupting sleep and the leaks could be disrupting sleep. Disrupted sleep equals crappy feeling next day. Not to mention not being able to deal with events effectively.
I see less leak being reported with nasal pillow users who have mouth breathing problems and don't do anything to keep mouth shut. This machine is special machine... are you limited to specific masks? If it were me I would be mask shopping because this one isn't even close to sealing adequately. Either that or check all your hoses and connections to see if it is possible that there is a leak somewhere else. Unlikely but not impossible. That is the only thing I can think of.
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