Special Electric Rates for CPAP Users

I'm willing to let this "Dog" lie, until the next time, Socialist - Liberal, post (promote) they have the right to steal goods and services or anything from others that have worked and suffered to provide for themselves and their families.

We all know it will continue, it has become our governments main function, it's the brick their power is built on. It keeps their corruption in power, the Robin Hood action of politicians, keeps the peasants sated, and allows them to control the wealth and plunder the land.

We have come to a point in history where our morals and intelligence have devolved to a level at turning back on the right path may be impossible. To force people to make real change in their own lives, requires sacrifice, that won't happen as long as they can live with what's going on around them. It has to reach a critical mass, then the people will see a change however hard is required.

It's a change like that, that created our great country, what has happened to our country, is what happens to all governments, we have had it good for a long time, that has let us forget the ideals our country was founded on, hard work and a chance to build a better life for ourselves and our families.

We are just waiting for the next shoe to fall, what it will be I don't know, Monetary failure, Nuclear attack, Etc., literally hundreds of things could be our final downfall.

In the meanwhile, governments, news media will keep us at each others throats, pulling their strings controlling us, so the people in power can continue to plunder us. Jim

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Happy New Year, everybody!

Most of those who are fortunate enough not to rely on one of these machines probably don't know all the details and could express the whole "rip your neighbor" off point of view. Sadly many legal & illegal substances were found in the princess's body, but it's no secret that sleep apnea DID have something to do with Carrie Fishers death.

Those that do have to use a machine know the difference in alertness, memory, mood, blood pressure and many other behaviors that benefit from using the machine nightly. When operating an automobile or other equipment, it's more safe for all involved that the person driving/operating has had a good nights rest. I imagine that a small child who colors in a color book when mom or dad are driving would be appreciative that they are able to color the next page, tomorrow because mom or dad didn't fall asleep at the wheel. I imagine if I asked my neighbors, they would feel better about me using my BiPap machine and being rested when I drive up and down our street that I call home. I'm guessing that the residents of the city in which I reside would think it best that I use my machine the night before my 24 hour shift at the city fire station. I've been a public servant for 28 years now with a city Fire Department.

Sleep apnea is often a result of the tissue in the neck relaxing while sleeping, making the size of the airway smaller and in some cases closing it all together. This may or may not be associated with staying within your recommended BMI or exceeding it. There is another kind. I don't smoke, rarely drink and do no prescribed drugs that would affect this nor do I do any illegal drugs, lol, and no....no "prescription Pot".

Central Sleep Apnea is a disruption of the signal from the brain to the diaphragm for unknown reasons, resulting in the absence of breathing, or apnea. Guidelines say that one single "event" is when a person stops inhaling for a period of more than 10 seconds. Before treatment, this was happening to me an average of 40+ times an hour. This never really allowed me to get the REM sleep I needed and it was affecting my health. I would wake up sweaty, panicked and wondered why. Why was because I was starving for O2 and my warning systems had kicked into action saying breath or die.

Married 27 years I would always tell my wife that I never ever dreamed, or at least never remembered them. That was before getting my BiPap machine and getting used to it being a part of my life.

If I have a neighbor, family member or even a stranger that also suffers from this or any other condition, I hope they take advantage of PG&E's program and I hope they start dreaming. I remember my dreams now that I'm sleeping in a stage that allows me to have them. My blood pressure is down too. A huge thank you too all of you who contribute to my health by "shouldering some of the burden" for me. Every chance I get I'll attempt to pick up a little bit of your slack too.

PDR
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I hope people could use their welfare checks to pay for their own electric usage. About the cost of 1/2 a cigarette, or a can of beer every 3 days. Don't make your neighbors pay your bills. Jim

The Dark side wrote:Most of those who are fortunate enough not to rely on one of these machines probably don't know all the details and could express the whole "rip your neighbor" off point of view. Sadly many legal & illegal substances were found in the princess's body, but it's no secret that sleep apnea DID have something to do with Carrie Fishers death.

Those that do have to use a machine know the difference in alertness, memory, mood, blood pressure and many other behaviors that benefit from using the machine nightly. When operating an automobile or other equipment, it's more safe for all involved that the person driving/operating has had a good nights rest. I imagine that a small child who colors in a color book when mom or dad are driving would be appreciative that they are able to color the next page, tomorrow because mom or dad didn't fall asleep at the wheel. I imagine if I asked my neighbors, they would feel better about me using my BiPap machine and being rested when I drive up and down our street that I call home. I'm guessing that the residents of the city in which I reside would think it best that I use my machine the night before my 24 hour shift at the city fire station. I've been a public servant for 28 years now with a city Fire Department.

Sleep apnea is often a result of the tissue in the neck relaxing while sleeping, making the size of the airway smaller and in some cases closing it all together. This may or may not be associated with staying within your recommended BMI or exceeding it. There is another kind. I don't smoke, rarely drink and do no prescribed drugs that would affect this nor do I do any illegal drugs, lol, and no....no "prescription Pot".

Central Sleep Apnea is a disruption of the signal from the brain to the diaphragm for unknown reasons, resulting in the absence of breathing, or apnea. Guidelines say that one single "event" is when a person stops inhaling for a period of more than 10 seconds. Before treatment, this was happening to me an average of 40+ times an hour. This never really allowed me to get the REM sleep I needed and it was affecting my health. I would wake up sweaty, panicked and wondered why. Why was because I was starving for O2 and my warning systems had kicked into action saying breath or die.

Married 27 years I would always tell my wife that I never ever dreamed, or at least never remembered them. That was before getting my BiPap machine and getting used to it being a part of my life.

If I have a neighbor, family member or even a stranger that also suffers from this or any other condition, I hope they take advantage of PG&E's program and I hope they start dreaming. I remember my dreams now that I'm sleeping in a stage that allows me to have them. My blood pressure is down too. A huge thank you too all of you who contribute to my health by "shouldering some of the burden" for me. Every chance I get I'll attempt to pick up a little bit of your slack too.

PDR
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Interesting, but what does this have to with this 12 year old post about getting special rates from the Electric Company ? If you read all the posts in this thread you would see that the average cost of electricity to run a CPAP for a week is about 50 cents. How much of a discount would be fair.....50% or 25 cents a week?

Good point, LSAT. Replace a couple incadescent lights with LEDs, and you save more juice than the cpap uses.
Now, a concentrator is like running an extra refrigerator in the house.
The oxygen users are the ones who should get a discount--and priority for line maintenance and repair.
Fair is fair, for pete's sake!

chunkyfrog wrote:Good point, LSAT. Replace a couple incadescent lights with LEDs, and you save more juice than the cpap uses.
Now, a concentrator is like running an extra refrigerator in the house.
The oxygen users are the ones who should get a discount--and priority for line maintenance and repair.
Fair is fair, for pete's sake!

Most of us don't get one for the concentrator, we can't even get better treatment to get the power back on. It failed again that's 4 times in 24 days. Next year they are planning to replace the extension cords! Sent to China to get them. Jim

Maybe if they weren't giving excessive credits, they could keep the lines powered.

Electricity here is a PUBLIC UTILITY--performance is excellent.
It gets lousy where electricity is in corporate hands.

Electric power costs are covered by the insurance here. Guess it depends how much you spend on your insurance.

Power outages are a different story. But how often does the grid go down in an industrial nation? Like once in a decade?

We live in a rural area and sadly, we do lose power quite a bit and I guess because we aren't a huge neighborhood, we're one of the LAST to be restore during a major outage.

I went through all the trouble (and it is a lot of trouble) to do the paperwork for priority restoration. It has to be resubmitted YEARLY and the doctor has to write it/sign it YEARLY. But I had it.

Didn't mean or do squat. Power company's response, despite the order for priority restoration was "we'll get you as soon as we can" which was no sooner than without the order.

Since it was such a hassle to get it and it didn't do anything anyway, I stopped. The Trilogy runs on batteries for 6 hours and during major outages (days) we hook up a generator and recharge the batteries during the day to give me another 6 hours that night. It's the best we can do.

Guest wrote:Electric power costs are covered by the insurance here. Guess it depends how much you spend on your insurance.

Power outages are a different story. But how often does the grid go down in an industrial nation? Like once in a decade?

Where is "here"?

chunkyfrog wrote:Electricity here is a PUBLIC UTILITY--performance is excellent.
It gets lousy where electricity is in corporate hands.

I'm not sure, crooks are at all levels. Last year here the FBI raided our School Corp, this week, they raided the Sewage Plant. Probably just refilling their lunch buckets. Jim

I find it funny we have the FBI to correct crooked doing, and they are the government right in the middle of the crooks. The Fox is policing the Hen House, and we wonder why the Eggs are all gone.

Oversight of our public utilities are, by law, always open public meetings.
including a small, persistent core of pesky idealists, with access to the media.
My "here" does not yet have all underground power cable, where outages are rare.
Older parts of town are slowly eliminating overhead lines, but poorer neighborhoods always come dead last.
Windstorms knock down branches, causing outages; but the bullfrog caused one widespread outage, all by himself,
by trying to install a TV antenna on his mother's house when an unexpected gust came up and took out a 10,000 volt feeder line.
Poor dear had absorbed some sparks, causing him to be one jumpy frog for a couple days.
(It was much easier to talk Mom into cable after that)
Most outages are for only a few hours--but a giant ice storm several years ago put us off the grid for eight days.

chunkyfrog wrote:Oversight of our public utilities are, by law, always open public meetings.
including a small, persistent core of pesky idealists, with access to the media.
My "here" does not yet have all underground power cable, where outages are rare.
Older parts of town are slowly eliminating overhead lines, but poorer neighborhoods always come dead last.
Windstorms knock down branches, causing outages; but the bullfrog caused one widespread outage, all by himself,
by trying to install a TV antenna on his mother's house when an unexpected gust came up and took out a 10,000 volt feeder line.
Poor dear had absorbed some sparks, causing him to be one jumpy frog for a couple days.
(It was much easier to talk Mom into cable after that)
Most outages are for only a few hours--but a giant ice storm several years ago put us off the grid for eight days.

After all the high school science labs classes, I'd be jumpy too Buyllfrog, no-one is hooking electrodes to my lower parts. Chunky Frog, you didn't load that video to the Web? Shame on you! Jim

I'm doomed to live with poor electric, not going to move, here only new houses and subdivisions have buried feeds. Funny after the power outages a power solution company had started junk mailing me to put in their generator system. They have a good business plan, aggressive at locating leads.

No special electric rates here, but your cost per unit goes down if you are using an oxygen concentrator (always puts you over some line).