Provent for sleep apnea

Advice duly noted and I will heed it. I'll order the Provent today and dip my toe in the water at home first. Thanks.

Because I travel a lot on overnight flights I am thinking I may use Provent while sleeping on the flights. Given that airplanes tend to be pressurized at the equivalent of about 8,000 feet altitude, any ideas about how the cabin pressure would affect the effectiveness of Provent?

Jay K wrote:Because I travel a lot on overnight flights I am thinking I may use Provent while sleeping on the flights. Given that airplanes tend to be pressurized at the equivalent of about 8,000 feet altitude, any ideas about how the cabin pressure would affect the effectiveness of Provent?

I've used Provent at altitudes up to 12,500 feet, and as far as I can tell it worked for me. I have not found any studies of Provent at high altitude.

Why would anyone want to refer to studies at 12,500 feet when the studies at normal altitudes show that Provent is not a suitable treatment except for a small number of patients? It's only going to become more ineffective at higher altitudes.

Given one of the potential uses for Provent is on airplanes or camping trips (where it might be difficult to bring or use a CPAP), it makes perfect sense that someone might want to "refer" to a study of Provent at higher altitudes. Even if it is not as effective as a CPAP, in those situations where using a CPAP may not be a realistic option, Provent might be better than nothing (or maybe not). But that is the question and reason a study of Provent at high altitudes might be helpful.

ChicagoGranny wrote:Why would anyone want to refer to studies at 12,500 feet when the studies at normal altitudes show that Provent is not a suitable treatment except for a small number of patients? It's only going to become more ineffective at higher altitudes.

Here are my reasons for looking for high altitude studies:

• Without studies, there is no way to know whether it is more or less effective, relative to APAP, at higher altitudes. There are theoretical arguments each way, so I was curious to see if the issue had been studied.
  
  My apnea is mild enough that the existing studies suggest Provent would be very likely bring my AHI down to close to the normal range. (Later experience showed that it controls my sleep-apnea related symptoms just as well as APAP at home.)
  
  I had a long planned vacation coming up that involved both sleeping at high altitude and situations in which carrying around an APAP would have been very inconvenient and involved a high risk of loss or damage.
  
  Some of my planned hotels were thousands of feet above the specified ceiling for my APAP, so its effectiveness was also open to doubt.

My life is full of situations in which I trade out absolute safety for convenience, comfort, contact with friends, and other values that are not matters of life-and-death. For example, after I finish sending this message I plan to get in my car and drive to a bank and a supermarket. In doing so, I know I am risking death or serious injury. I could, more safely, deposit my checks electronically, and place an order with the supermarket for home delivery, but it would be less convenient to do so. During my vacation, I took a small aircraft flight over the Nazca lines, for the sake of directly seeing something wonderful that I had previously only read about and seen in photos, despite the obvious danger.

Sleep apnea treatment involves that sort of safety vs. convenience trade-off. APAP is likely to be at least as effective as Provent, is cheaper if the machine capital cost is amortized over a couple of years, and I can view its data to check that it is working for me. At home, it is at least as convenient as Provent, so I use it except when getting into training for using Provent for travel. On my recent vacation, Provent was much, much more convenient than APAP would have been.

This sort of trade-off is a very personal matter. Each person has to decide how much risk they are prepared to accept for any given benefit.

If Provent would have worked for me, I would have happily ditched the CPAP for Provent, nightly. It is WAY more convenient than CPAP ever is, on a train, on a plane, in a house, with a mouse...

Teleporting to Boston to see my sister is WAY more convenient than flying and I would happily ditch my frequent flyer card if only my teleporting machine worked.

ChicagoGranny wrote:Teleporting to Boston to see my sister is WAY more convenient than flying and I would happily ditch my frequent flyer card if only my teleporting machine worked.

The only difference being that Provent does work for some people, whereas teleporting doesn't work for anyone.

I have just been diagnosed with mild OSA sleep apnoea, I have been prescribed modifinil for excessive daytime sleepiness and giving provent to use at night. I can't seem to get the provent to seal properly? When I put it on I don't feel any pressure, I have very small nostrils and the device is doing nothing for me because I can't put it on correctly! Any advice?

Sleepy27 wrote:I have just been diagnosed with mild OSA sleep apnoea, I have been prescribed modifinil for excessive daytime sleepiness and giving provent to use at night. I can't seem to get the provent to seal properly? When I put it on I don't feel any pressure, I have very small nostrils and the device is doing nothing for me because I can't put it on correctly! Any advice?

Is it a problem with getting it placed correctly, so that the sticky part is in contact with skin all round each nostril, or a problem with it not adhering?

I don't understand all these names with no join date or any kind of stats below their names. are they all fakes too?

TiredTooLong wrote:I don't understand all these names with no join date or any kind of stats below their names. are they all fakes too?

They are people who haven't become members of cpaptalk and are posting as guests.

SleepingUgly wrote:If Provent would have worked for me, I would have happily ditched the CPAP for Provent, nightly. It is WAY more convenient than CPAP ever is, on a train, on a plane, in a house, with a mouse...

And if I didn't have difficulty with nasal breathing, I would tried it in a heartbeat.

CS

rek101 wrote:

rachlil1 wrote:My husband has been using it for 2 weeks now, so I think it is long enough to review. Although he has a CPAP he ends up taking it off when he sleeps, so a lot of money spent on something he never uses. I am so happy with these things. My husband has mild to moderate apnea and tends to breathe through his nose when he sleeps, so these are working very well for him. If someone has issues with a stuffed up nose, oily or sweaty skin or tends to breathe through their mouth, I'm not sure if it will work for them. I paid up front and asked the company to bill Blue Cross. I was prepared to appeal the denial, but was very pleasantly surprised that they covered it under durable medical equipment. Even if it wasn't covered, for the health benefits and the amount of time we have had to sleep in separate rooms and the amount of sleep I have lost, it would still be worth the $1.70 per day ($50 month). I should also add that the VA hospitals are now providing them, so I am figuring that they must be working for somebody.

I've never posted here, but this review seems so utterly fake I had to say something. I used to be a marketing executive for a medical device company (Johnson & Johnson) and I don't think I could have written something which sounds more like marketing copy. Would this person kindly direct us to some other reviews she's written on other topics? Maybe something on Amazon. If we can expose these people, they'll take their BS elsewhere. If you visit most healthcare ad agencies, you'll find a lot of 20 somethings in NYC who party it up most nights. These are great people to have on your team if you want to spread propaganda, but not so fun to have around when you're trying to make healthcare decisions. Poster...please send us some links to other reviews you've written. Share a bit about yourself so we get some context. This might be a great product, but scum like this need to feel scummy when they come to work every day so they find useful jobs and useful ways to contribute to society.

And you'll find the exact same review here. Moderator, if you report this to the fda, the company will get a warning. this is a fake review and you have a duplicate at the link below. Dont let these guys get away with abusing your forum.


apneasupport dot org/provent-therapy-t27810 dot html