CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by -SWS » Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:13 am

Muffy wrote:
blizzardboy wrote:Aaah, those words...they cause me to feel inside like birds flying in a frenzy through the torn curtain of the rear window.
In an uncanny coincidence, did you notice how Muffy similarly makes a cameo appearance in all of her posts?
There are nearly fifty-eight thousand returns when searching for the combined terms "Hitchcock" and "muffin":
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp& ... 7d243bf661

Uncanny coincidence?


...Me thinks not.

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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by blizzardboy » Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:47 am

-SWS wrote: There are nearly fifty-eight thousand returns when searching for the combined terms "Hitchcock" and "muffin":
Uncanny coincidence?
...Me thinks not.
Now I know how Neo felt when he first saw the ones and zeroes...

BTW, I am currently compiling my summary of this thread. I will post it soon to get strategy for D-day sorted and down pat with you all. After all, WE are in this together, right? All for one, one for all?
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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by unadog » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:04 am

blizzardboy wrote: BTW, I am currently compiling my summary of this thread. I will post it soon to get strategy for D-day sorted and down pat with you all. After all, WE are in this together, right? All for one, one for all?
Yeah, but **only you** suffer! That is the good part .....

FWIW, I took my basal temp and was treated for hypothyroid about 7 years ago by a naturopath. Unfortunately, they missed the link to sleep apnea, which took another 6 years.....

Anyway. My morning basal temp was pretty consistently 96.0 - 96.4 degrees (partly due to desats, I'm sure ..) It rarely got up to 97.5 at any time during the day. And, unlike Sleeping, I was **not**ovulating! If I got up to 98.6, that meant I was sick!

Just FYI. Sometimes the temps can be striking. Low body temp is also listed as a symptom of "sleep deprivation", which all makes sense now ... I wonder what your temps would be without the machine??

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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by Muffy » Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:52 pm

-SWS wrote:
Muffy wrote:
blizzardboy wrote:Aaah, those words...they cause me to feel inside like birds flying in a frenzy through the torn curtain of the rear window.
In an uncanny coincidence, did you notice how Muffy similarly makes a cameo appearance in all of her posts?
There are nearly fifty-eight thousand returns when searching for the combined terms "Hitchcock" and "muffin":
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp& ... 7d243bf661

Uncanny coincidence?


...Me thinks not.

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Ol' Al was a sneaky one!

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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by DreamDiver » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:36 pm

blizzardboy wrote:Now I know how Neo felt when he first saw the ones and zeroes...
That's only because there are nearly 700,000 for blizzard/boy/hitchcock.
OMG - he really is the one...
(Or is she?)

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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by blizzardboy » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:54 pm

unadog wrote: Just FYI. Sometimes the temps can be striking. Low body temp is also listed as a symptom of "sleep deprivation", which all makes sense now ... I wonder what your temps would be without the machine??
Hi Michael, have you seen an increase in your waking basal temperature since you commenced treatment for sleep apnea?

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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by blizzardboy » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:08 pm

DreamDiver wrote:OMG - he really is one...
Hang on - they're not PLMs that's just me Jiu-Jitsu-ing Agent A Rousals. Just waiting now for when I can be disconnected from The Machine. I'll take the red pill - please, pretty please.
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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by -SWS » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:17 pm

unadog wrote:FWIW, I took my basal temp and was treated for hypothyroid about 7 years ago by a naturopath. Unfortunately, they missed the link to sleep apnea, which took another 6 years.....
So was that a misdiagnosis by the naturopath? How is the thyroid doing now days, unadog?
blizzardboy wrote: BTW, I am currently compiling my summary of this thread. I will post it soon to get strategy for D-day sorted and down pat with you all.
Excellent idea. I'll follow that part closely and I am sure others will as well. I suspect this thread has a loooong way to go, blizzardboy. I'm entrenched... The Red Von Muffin seems to be as well... Several others as well.


Speaking of thyroid treatment and Armour, here's a sales pitch form the old days:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg8aqu9 ... re=related

...By stark contrast, Armour nowadays seems to manage infinitely more sophisticated propaganda campaigns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfSHOkp ... re=related

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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by blizzardboy » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:32 pm

-SWS wrote:I suspect this thread has a loooong way to go
Here's some more data:
http://users.adam.com.au/sixsome/Bipap%20SV/ - my Bipap SV trial results, and
http://users.adam.com.au/sixsome/S9/ - my Resmed S9 Autoset trial results.

As always, any comments would be happily received.

p.s. -SWS, Armour is also weaving their web Down Under: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwi834EIa38
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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by Muffy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:09 am

blizzardboy wrote:BTW, I am currently compiling my summary of this thread. I will post it soon to get strategy for D-day sorted and down pat with you all.
IIWY, the first thing I would do is figure out exactly what it is I was trying to fix.

While all the "Techno-Flash" looks and sounds impressive, if your overriding problem is a 2-hour block of Wake every night, by the time you finish explaining übersyllogism you could very well end up walking out of there with nothing accomplished.
blizzardboy wrote:My sleep doctor, whom I will see on April 30, is also a pulmonologist so hopefully he'll be right on a PFT.
Since that implies that he also has or has access to a "PFT machine", instead of a "REALLY cheap RMR", try to grab a "real" RMR (perhaps he has VMax). That will need to be scheduled because you need to be NPO.

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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by blizzardboy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:11 am

Muffy wrote:IIWY, the first thing I would do is figure out exactly what it is I was trying to fix.
My sentiment, exactly. Now that I have had some time to let this thread's contents 'soak', my motivation for doing the summary is to identify the most likely explanations for my SBD. Then I aim to develop confidence in a good strategy for trying to find a 'fix'.
Muffy wrote:try to grab a "real" RMR (perhaps he has VMax). That will need to be scheduled because you need to be NPO.
E.g overnight fast?
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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by Muffy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:07 am

blizzardboy wrote:E.g overnight fast?
Right.

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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by echo » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:08 am

blizzardboy wrote:
Muffy wrote:IIWY, the first thing I would do is figure out exactly what it is I was trying to fix.
My sentiment, exactly. Now that I have had some time to let this thread's contents 'soak', my motivation for doing the summary is to identify the most likely explanations for my SBD. Then I aim to develop confidence in a good strategy for trying to find a 'fix'.
It would be also be useful to have a list of "what you're trying to fix" for the rest of us desperately trying to follow this thread too
It might be interesting to split the "what needs to be fixed" and "SBD issues" into items that are "directly observered" vs. "conjectures" as well... like is the hypoventilation directly observed or is that a conjecture based on the machine data, but that it _could_ in theory be something else?
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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by jnk » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:22 am

blizzardboy on p. 13 of thread wrote: . . . those nuclear experiments in third year university . . .
I know it was a joke, but . . .

If your work has ever involved exposures to high levels of radiation, that may be useful info for your pulmo.

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Re: CompSA, Hypoventilation, PLMs, Bradycardia and Hypotension?

Post by blizzardboy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:47 am

jnk wrote:If your work has ever involved exposures to high levels of radiation, that may be useful info for your pulmo.
Hi jnk - No, no high exposure during work. Largest dosage would be from X-rays/CT scans.

So here is my effort to extract what I see as the essence of this thread:
http://users.adam.com.au/sixsome/CPAP_talk_00.txt
still quite lengthy but helpful for me.
echo wrote:It might be interesting to split the "what needs to be fixed" and "SBD issues" into items that are "directly observered" vs. "conjectures" as well... like is the hypoventilation directly observed or is that a conjecture based on the machine data, but that it _could_ in theory be something else?
I will next try to summarise this into a format useful as a strategy map.
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