ResMed S9 coming soon?

jnk wrote:...Where is -SWS?

On vacation I think. He said he'd be offline for a bit.

rooster wrote:

carbonman wrote:What is the difference between "Treats" and "Responds to"??

Marketing?

It's like the difference between the military terms "war" and "police action."

carbonman wrote:What is the difference between "Treats" and "Responds to"??

I'm still not real fond of the word "Treats" standing alone in this:
• Treats obstructive apnoeas over 10cmH20.

I'd still favor "Preventively treats" or "Preemptively treats."

Muse-Inc wrote:

jnk wrote:...Where is -SWS?

On vacation I think. He said he'd be offline for a bit.

He has NO RIGHT to be on vacation at a time like this! How DARE he?!!!

jnk wrote:

Muse-Inc wrote:

jnk wrote:...Where is -SWS?

On vacation I think. He said he'd be offline for a bit.

He has NO RIGHT to be on vacation at a time like this! How DARE he?!!!

rooster wrote:

carbonman wrote:What is the difference between "Treats" and "Responds to"??

Marketing?

. . . or the difference between the CIA terms "operation" and "training exercise."

rested gal wrote: . . . the confusion when I keep re-thinking and editing a post. . . .

No, that is my fault, because I keep doing it myself. Although I think it may be a bad habit I did pick up from you and -SWS, now that I think about it.

I think -SWS has been battling a post vacation bug. He traded the high temps of the tropics for another kind of high temp.

Hope he's feeling better very soon.

rooster wrote:

carbonman wrote:What is the difference between "Treats" and "Responds to"??

Marketing?

jnk wrote:

rooster wrote:

carbonman wrote:What is the difference between "Treats" and "Responds to"??

Marketing?

It's like the difference between the military terms "war" and "police action."

rested gal wrote:

carbonman wrote:What is the difference between "Treats" and "Responds to"??

I'm still not real fond of the word "Treats" standing alone in this:
• Treats obstructive apnoeas over 10cmH20.

I'd still favor "Preventively treats" or "Preemptively treats."

jnk wrote:

rooster wrote:

carbonman wrote:What is the difference between "Treats" and "Responds to"??

Marketing?

. . . or the difference between the CIA terms "operation" and "training exercise."

WOW.....I'm sure glad you guys are around......
so we can get these things worked out and cleared up, quickly.

rested gal wrote:

carbonman wrote:What is the difference between "Treats" and "Responds to"??

I'm still not real fond of the word "Treats" standing alone in this:
• Treats obstructive apnoeas over 10cmH20.

I'd still favor "Preventively treats" or "Preemptively treats."

And that is an excellent point that gets to the crux of the matter. I agree 100%.

All PAP machines treat apneas, because they pressurize air for that very purpose. The only difference with an auto is that it varies that pressure by attempting to assess the condition of the airway.

I don't think the real idea of an auto was ever to sit around idly crouching like a tiger waiting for an event to happen so it can pounce on it and kill it. The idea, as I understand it, has always been that an auto should be smart enough to read the condition of the airway well enough to prevent the events that can be prevented, but to do so with the minimum amount of pressure needed to do so.

Do the people who right marketing copy understand that? Do the doctors understand that? As long as the engineers understand it, I guess that is all that matters.

I just hope Toyota didn't make the gas pedals for the S9.

jeff

But I really, really like the looks of the S8s...oh well, guess they think metallic gray, sterile, cold is a good look . Not sure I like the added FOT detection of what the xPAP thinks are centrals or that new category of apnea...does that mean when I hold my breath turning over that it's gonna hit my airways with a series of pulses that might cause arousals or worse wake me up? The new humidification, er climate control kit, sounds good as does the new heated hose (or is that the climate control kit?). And, the connection of a pulse ox sounds great! And what the heck did they do to the EasyBreathe? Works great for me as it is now. We'll just have to see how users like it overseas before we here in No America can try it out...they are after all the guinea pigs for new equipment before it's unleashed in the biggest market.

PS Bet they're watching the hits on those S9 sites & tracking arrivals from where and reading this and other sites for comments!

carbonman wrote:

jnk wrote:
. . . or the difference between the CIA terms "operation" and "training exercise."

WOW.....I'm sure glad you guys are around......
so we can get these things worked out and cleared up, quickly.

It's called a mopping up operation.

It is a very aesthetically pleasing machine.
Much more so than the PR1.
I like the idea of the heated hose.
They got the jump on the PR1 w/that.....and
the temp sensor at the mask.

Interesting how the PR1 went to the hose connection on top
and the S9 went back to the hose connection back in the body of the machine.

I'm really glad I have the Resmeds setting in my closet.

....but this is fun and interesting.......

jnk wrote:
Do the people who right marketing copy understand that?

They write marketing copy; you guys right their marketing copy.

jnk wrote:....I don't think the real idea of an auto was ever to sit around idly crouching like a tiger waiting for an event to happen so it can pounce on it and kill it. The idea, as I understand it, has always been that an auto should be smart enough to read the condition of the airway well enough to prevent the events that can be prevented, but to do so with the minimum amount of pressure needed to do so.

Do the people who right[sic] marketing copy understand that? Do the doctors understand that? As long as the engineers understand it, I guess that is all that matters.

This is how the need for technical writers was created...misleading explanations that lead to confusion, ambiguity (unless intentionally written to be so, taken a class in that ), and frustration. Many highly technical professionals have such a huge base of expertise that what they think is a clear simple communication reads/sounds like incomprehensible jargon or meaningless complexity to the audience, so companies often turn writing over to the marketing types who are even less able to communicate technical information accurately. There is a difference in conceptual understanding of technical material between technical writers and technical experts, the former begin with details integrating them into a whole while the latter begin from a problem (whole) and break it down into constituant parts to be solved...the explanations of the latter reflects this approach regardless of the audience. Technical writers, at least the good ones, write to the needs of the targeted audience. I'm quite sure these brochures were written by the marketing dept because they are sale-oriented for doctors and equipment suppliers.