Eating the Low-Carb Way: your place to share

Kiralynx wrote:

sagesteve wrote:I'm not supposed to do this buuuuut.....here is just one of the 11 day diets I put together. I selected the food and the site "generated" the diet. There are many more foods to select from. Just look at what you get to eat! You absolutley WILL lose bewtween 9 and 11 pounds in 11 days eating this way...read the WHOLE thing and follow it EXACTLY. I took three days off and followed it up with another "generated" diet of MY selection each time. You are a member for life. This diet works great when you are going to see family and you want to lose some INSTANT weight...we all know what I mean! Sign up here:

http://diet4idiots.net/

I looked at the site -- and because of my dietary limitations, I wasn't willing to pay their fee to find out this diet would not work for me. Thanks for posting the menu, because now I know --

What are you diet limitations?

fidelfs wrote:You guys try something called the "no grain diet" it is better balanced that any other diet. You can find some information on Dr. Mercola site or other websites.

Yup. Mercola took that idea of no grains from the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, as delineated in Elaine Gottschall's Breaking the Vicious Cycle. The SCD is specific for IBD, IBS, autism, and a few other things; it's a very healthy diet. It is not necessarily low carb, though it can be.

I'm coming up on 9 years on it. I lost 180 pounds, but now don't seem to be able to get the remaining weight off.

MoneyGal wrote:Carbonman, Have you ever been overweight and lost weight?

Picture...1988....a mild mannered computer field service guy.
On the road, 100miles a day doing on site computer repair calls.
I have a car full of computer parts and a back seat full of
MickyD's/Whopper/TacoBell wrappers.
225#s...getting no exercise....probably headed for a heart attack.

Service mgr. makes a crack about my shirts being too tight.
Point taken.

I notice a flyer for something called the MS150 bike ride,
to raise money for multiple sclerosis society.
I did this ride 7yrs in a row.

Fast forward to today.
Picture a mild mannered computer repair guy.....
has come in from the cold and works "in house",
10s of thousands of miles logged on the bike,
150-159#(depending on time of year),
lean, mean cycling machine.

I know.

Thanks for providing me this opportunity to review....
renews my motivation.

Uncle_Bob wrote:Can you recommend a place to buy online at a good price?

I just buy direct from Hammer.
They have individual sample packs of most things.
When you find what works, buy the bulk stuff.

sagesteve wrote:What are you diet limitations?

All foods must be homemade. No "low fat" anything, like salad dressing. Yogurt must be homemade, fermented for at least 24 hours. No commercial sausages, as they have hidden sugars.

Page 43 of BTVC gives the details, but the basics are:

==> Any cereal grain is strictly and absolutely forbidden. (BTVC p49), including, but not limited to, wheat, corn, oats, rice, rye, millet, buckwheat, triticale, etc. This means none in any form. Bread, cake, toast, macaroni, etc. etc. is absolutely forbidden if made with grain.

==> Carbohydrates (starches and sugars) other than those found in fruits, honey, properly prepared yogurt, and certain vegetables are also forbidden.

==> Liquid milk is forbidden. Milk must be properly fermented, as yogurt, or as cheese made with rennet or other enzymes. Some people find even yogurt which has been fermented for 24 hours difficult to digest, and do better with "dripped" or "drained" yogurt, also called yogurt cheese. Small amounts of heavy cream, treated with lactaid drops, and kept in the refrigerator for 24 hours after treatment may be used in coffee or tea.

==> Most beans (legumes) are forbidden. Dried white (navy) beans, lentils, split peas, and both dried and fresh lima beans are permitted. (BTVC, p 53-54) These must be prepared according to the directions in the Gourmet Section of BTVC: specifically, they must be soaked for at least eight hours, drained (throw away the soak water), rinsed, and then cooked until tender in fresh water. All legumes other than the ones mentioned above are illegal. Illegal legumes include, but are not limited to chick peas, bean sprouts, soybeans, mung beans, faba beans, garbanzo beans, and pinto beans.

==> Canned, processed vegetables are forbidden. They often have unlisted sugar or starch. Use fresh, or fresh frozen. Be sure to peel and seed these at the beginning of the diet.

==> Most canned fruits are illegal. Read labels carefully, and only use those packed in their own juice with no added sweeteners. Fresh or fresh frozen are preferred. In the early stages of the diet, all fruits should be peeled, seeded, and cooked.

==> All sweeteners except saccharin and filtered honey are forbidden. Be especially wary of any products labeled "sugar-free" - even those without illegal aspartame will often have mannitol and sorbitol, which are sugar alcohols. Products containing these are allowed to call themselves "sugar free" because alcohol sugars are indigestible by human beings. But the bad bugs in your gut will have a marvelous time dining on them, and keep you sick!

==> Be aware that fruits and raw vegetables have laxative qualities, so if active diarrhea is your reason for coming to the SCD, these must be used with caution until normal function resumes. These same raw fruits and vegetables can also cause other forms of gastric upset, like gas, queasy stomach, etc. if you eat them too early in the diet.

==> Everyone is different. Cooked carrots, as an example, are usually well tolerated by most people, one reason they are included on the introductory diet. I, on the other hand, didn't tolerate carrots at all - they simply came through completely undigested. Yet I could eat both cooked and raw broccoli and cauliflower (both notorious for giving people trouble) with impunity. Even legal foods can be a problem if you eat them too soon, or eat too much of them.

==> It has taken you quite a few years to become ill; it may very well take months, or even years to heal from all the damage that has been done to your system.

==> In any healing situation, it is often a case of two steps forward and one step back. Don't give up! You are giving your body the nutrition it needs, and you have eliminated the foods which made you sick in the first place.

Kiralynx wrote:

fidelfs wrote:You guys try something called the "no grain diet" it is better balanced that any other diet. You can find some information on Dr. Mercola site or other websites.

Yup. Mercola took that idea of no grains from the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, as delineated in Elaine Gottschall's Breaking the Vicious Cycle. The SCD is specific for IBD, IBS, autism, and a few other things; it's a very healthy diet. It is not necessarily low carb, though it can be.

I'm coming up on 9 years on it. I lost 180 pounds, but now don't seem to be able to get the remaining weight off.

It has working find for me as well. I know the last pounds are the most difficult. I am Vitamin D deficiency and taking high doses of it, and my understanding this so called "vitamin" could also help with loosing weight in a indirect way. Have you checked yours lately?

I am taking 55,000 iu twice a week.

Kiralynx:
Here's just another example. Just make your own yogurt ( I do too). Everything absolutely fresh FRESH. It's the order and timing on this thing that works. You don't need condiments if you don't want too. I use homemade cheese also. Just take what you see and apply it to your needs. No canned stuff if you don't want. I get all of my beans from Goldmine Natural foods, among other things:

https://www.goldminenaturalfoods.com

11 Day MENU


**Please PRINT THIS PAGE by pressing your PRINT BUTTON.

*Remember that you can create another menu anytime by going to: DietHandbook.com


VERY IMPORTANT TIP:
Our rules state that you should eat until you feel "satisfied" but never "stuff yourself full". This rule will make or break your dieting success so we want to offer you a simple "guideline".



Basically, when you finish eating each meal you should "still have some room leftover" (in your stomach) afterward. You should still have enough room left to eat something else if you wanted to, but of course you won't be eating anything else.

*If you have no room leftover to eat something else then that means you've eaten more than necessary. Always eat slightly less if you're not sure when to stop eating at each meal -- but you should always feel "satisfied" after eating of course, you should NEVER starve yourself.




*Also, remember that each day's meals can be eaten in ANY ORDER (you don't have to eat all 4 meals in order, you can have Meal #1 for dinner and Meal #4 for breakfast if you choose to).

11 Day Diet SHOWN BELOW

(The DIET RULES and the FOOD PREP instructions are shown at end of diet, please be sure and read them)






DAY #1



Meal #1:

For Meal #1 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Chicken


Broiled Sea Bass


Bowl of Green Vegetables




Meal #2:

For Meal #2 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Delicious Shrimp


Broiled Flounder




Meal #3:

For Meal #3 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Turkey Slices


Tuna Salad Plate


Bowl of Mixed Vegetables




Meal #4:

For Meal #4 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Halibut


Chicken


Bowl of Green and Red Vegetables






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DAY #2



Today is a day of FRUIT ONLY.

This means that all 4 meals for this day must consist of only FRESH FRUIT and nothing else.

You'll be eating 4 meals (just like other days), but you must choose foods from the below list only:


Oranges

Pears

Apples

Grapes

Peaches

Plums

Strawberries

Kiwis

Grapefruit

*All fruit must be fresh fruit.






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DAY #3



Meal #1:

For Meal #1 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Sea Bass


Delicious Shrimp




Meal #2:

For Meal #2 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Flounder


Turkey Slices




Meal #3:

For Meal #3 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Tuna Salad Plate


Broiled Halibut


Fresh Strawberries




Meal #4:

For Meal #4 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Chicken


Broiled Sea Bass






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DAY #4



Meal #1:

For Meal #1 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Delicious Shrimp


Broiled Flounder




Meal #2:

For Meal #2 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Turkey Slices


Tuna Salad Plate


Bowl of Green Beans




Meal #3:

For Meal #3 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Halibut


Chicken




Meal #4:

For Meal #4 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Sea Bass


Delicious Shrimp






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DAY #5



Meal #1:

For Meal #1 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Flounder


Turkey Slices




Meal #2:

For Meal #2 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Frozen Yogurt Dessert


Fresh Pears




Meal #3:

For Meal #3 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Tuna Salad Plate


Broiled Halibut




Meal #4:

For Meal #4 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Chicken


Broiled Sea Bass






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DAY #6



Meal #1:

For Meal #1 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Delicious Shrimp


Broiled Flounder


Fresh Plums




Meal #2:

For Meal #2 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Garden Salad


Bowl of Baked Beans




Meal #3:

For Meal #3 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Turkey Slices


Tuna Salad Plate




Meal #4:

For Meal #4 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Bowl of Pinto Beans


Fresh Apples






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DAY #7



Meal #1:

For Meal #1 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Halibut


Chicken




Meal #2:

For Meal #2 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Sea Bass


Delicious Shrimp




Meal #3:

For Meal #3 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Flounder


Turkey Slices


Fresh Apricots




Meal #4:

For Meal #4 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Tuna Salad Plate


Broiled Halibut






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DAY #8



Today is a day of VEGETABLES AND SALAD ONLY

This means that all 4 meals for this day must consist of only VEGETABLES or SALAD and nothing else.

You'll be eating 4 meals (just like other days), but you must choose foods from the below list only:


Lettuce

Tomatoes

Cucumbers

Green Beans

Onions

Celery

Carrots

Pinto Beans

Sprouts

Spinach

Broccoli

Zucchini

Squash

Peppers

You may top each meal with only ONE of the following 2 items (but not both):

1 ounce of Grated Cheese (or)

3 tablespoons of Low-Calorie Salad Dressing






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DAY #9



Meal #1:

For Meal #1 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Chicken


Broiled Sea Bass




Meal #2:

For Meal #2 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Bowl of Green Vegetables


Bowl of Mixed Vegetables




Meal #3:

For Meal #3 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Bowl of Green and Red Vegetables


Fresh Strawberries




Meal #4:

For Meal #4 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Delicious Shrimp


Broiled Flounder






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DAY #10



Meal #1:

For Meal #1 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Bowl of Green Beans


Frozen Yogurt Dessert




Meal #2:

For Meal #2 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Turkey Slices


Tuna Salad Plate




Meal #3:

For Meal #3 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Fresh Pears


Fresh Plums




Meal #4:

For Meal #4 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Halibut


Chicken






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DAY #11



Meal #1:

For Meal #1 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Sea Bass


Delicious Shrimp


Garden Salad




Meal #2:

For Meal #2 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Broiled Flounder


Turkey Slices




Meal #3:

For Meal #3 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Bowl of Baked Beans


Bowl of Pinto Beans




Meal #4:

For Meal #4 you may eat any combination of the below foods that you wish (you may eat all or just 1 of the below foods, it's up to you).

*There are NO LIMITS ON PORTIONS (you get to choose how much to eat ---- but please remember that you must eat portions small enough so that you never feel "full", that's the only rule).



Tuna Salad Plate


Broiled Halibut






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ALLOWABLE DRINKS BELOW:


Any Diet Soda


Iced Tea with Lemon


Coffee (must have less than 10 calories per glass)


Water


ANY Low-Calorie Drink (with less than 10 calories per glass)



These drinks may be consumed as often as you like each day, with no limit.




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ALLOWABLE CONDIMENTS BELOW:

These condiments may be used on ANY meal:


Lemon Juice


Ketchup


Barbecue Sauce


Salsa


Salt


Pepper


Mustard


Seasoning Salts


*No other condiments are allowed on any meal.

Eating other condiments/sauces can slow down weight loss.





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DIET RULES:

The Diet Rules are fairly simple.

*First, you may eat your 4 Daily Meals in ANY ORDER.

This means that you don't have to eat MEAL #1 first and MEAL #4 last each day. For example, if you want to eat Meal #3 for breakfast then you can, or if you want to eat Meal #1 for dinner then you can...

You must eat all 4 meals on the day they are scheduled though ---- but you may eat them in ANY ORDER.

Here are the rest of the simple rules:

You will follow this 11 Day menu, and at the end of the 11 Days you may take 3 "Cheat Days" where you can eat ANYTHING YOU WANT for 3 straight days.

Then, after that 3 day period you may GENERATE A NEW 11 DAY MENU by logging in here: http://DietHandbook.com

The new menu will shift foods around differently throughout the 11 Day period, and thus your calories will be shifted around as we mentioned on our web site.

However, you will be allowed to choose many of the same foods if you wish.

Remember that the Diet Generator shifts the "calories" around every 11 Days (by assigning the foods in a different manner every 11 Days), but the overall foods chosen may be the same every 11 Days -- if you want (or they may be different if you like).





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*FOOD PREPARATION INSTRUCTIONS are below.
Please prepare all meals according to the food prep directions shown below.



Chicken
This means normally prepared chicken, skinless and non breaded.

Broiled Sea Bass
This means Broiled and Non Breaded Sea Bass

Bowl of Green Vegetables
This means a bowl of any vegetables which are Green in color

Delicious Shrimp
This means non-breaded Shrimp cooked or uncooked

Broiled Flounder
This means Broiled and Non Breaded Flounder

Turkey Slices
This means slices of deli-style Turkey meat

Tuna Salad Plate
You may prepare your Tuna Salad with any of the following: low fat mayo, mustard, lettuce, onions, or tomatoes

Bowl of Mixed Vegetables
This means cooked or frozen vegetables mixed together -- but NO POTATOES or CORN allowed

Broiled Halibut
This means Broiled and Non Breaded Halibut

Bowl of Green and Red Vegetables
This means a bowl of any vegetables which are Green or Red in color

Fresh Strawberries
This means regular FRESH Strawberries

Bowl of Green Beans
This means normal green beans

Frozen Yogurt Dessert
This means normal Frozen Yogurt Dessert, the kind which looks like ice cream (but no toppings are allowed)

Fresh Pears
This means regular FRESH Pears

Fresh Plums
This means regular FRESH Plums

Garden Salad
This means a Salad made with vegetables only (potatoes and corn not allowed) -- and you may have 3 tablespoons of Low Cal Salad Dressing only

Baked Beans
This means a bowl of regular Baked Beans

Bowl of Pinto Beans
This means a bowl of regular Pinto Beans

Fresh Apples
This means regular FRESH Apples

Fresh Apricots
This means regular Fresh Apricots



Number of DIFFERENT foods chosen: 20

Total Food Prep Instructions Printed: 20

Diet Menu ID: #31265222028

sagesteve wrote:Just saying....this works and I'm at optimum health. Also trying to help others. You can select other foods on this diet and it shows you why and how this works. Also, I don't need to lose anymore weight. So your 95 compared to my 79 is no comparison. Off course if you eat ALL you want of sugar and non-complex carbs...it's not good. This diet is VERY little of both.

Ok, so basically you get to choose the foods, and the program tells you what you chose and when to eat them ... is that right?

So technically one could eat a low carb diet with this $40 program so long as one chooses only low-carb foods and then the program prints out a meal plan with the chosen low-carb foods telling you when to eat the foods one chose. Is that what this diet web site is about?

I am back from the gym now. I am increasing the amount of weight I work with each week.

Carbonman, I hope you know I respect your opinion and wisdom very much. But I wonder if you are implying that exercise alone is sufficient to help "people in general" (not just you) lose weight. Your evidence is as compelling, I think, as mine: and mine shows a very different outcome.

Prior to my knee injury I logged about 100 miles per week on my bike, in addition to martial arts training 2-4 hours per week. I don't know whether it is my three pregnancies, or the timing of my OSA diagnosis, or my gender or...or what, but exercise (and calorie-restricted diets) DO NOT produce weight loss for me.

I don't know whether you are trying to argue that your specific case has general application. But if you are, I am ... well, I don't know what I am, except I don't fit in your generalization.

Yes...but in a specific plan. Just eating a low carb diet is NOT the same as this "plan".It's for those who want to lose weight FAST, EASY and the right way...it gives you direction. AND you are a member for life. Select different menus as you go. You know what a lot of Docs say...you can't lose weight too fast. Bull. If you do it right it works and you feel great. Take three days off and eat anyway you want ( be smart about it) and back you go...repeat and ALL the way down without exercise. Exercise is fine if that's what you want to do. Notice how long it takes for those on the Biggest Loser to lose their weight?! You CANNOT take super fat people and run them like that. WROOOOONG!!!! A lot of the past contestants have blown up again anyway. The "Biggest Loser"? Is a loser.

sagesteve wrote:Yes...but in a specific plan. Just eating a low carb diet is NOT the same as this "plan".It's for those who want to lose weight FAST, EASY and the right way...it gives you direction. AND you are a member for life. Select different menus as you go. You know what a lot of Docs say...you can't lose weight too fast. Bull. If you do it right it works and you feel great. Take three days off and eat anyway you want ( be smart about it) and back you go...repeat and ALL the way down without exercise. Exercise is fine if that's what you want to do. Notice how long it takes for those on the Biggest Loser to lose their weight?! You CANNOT take super fat people and run them like that. WROOOOONG!!!! A lot of the past contestants have blown up again anyway. The "Biggest Loser"? Is a loser.

Then maybe this "plan" belongs on a separate thread if it is NOT a low carb diet.

Maybe it belongs on a "lose weight FAST,EASY and the right way for idiots" thread.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

Maybe. Look at the second plan...that's pretty darn low carb.

sagesteve wrote:Maybe. Look at the second plan...that's pretty darn low carb.

Well yes sort of but actually it is not any different than first one. The beans are starch loaded and the carb stuff creeps in. The diet soda has what kind of healthy nutrients? And still too much fruit for weight loss. It may be fine for you since you have no additional weight to lose.

Again, insulin is a big factor in normalizing hormones (and weight loss). Too many fruits keep insulin abnormally elevated, especially if eaten several times per day.

I would rather spend the $40 on grass-fed beef or free-range chickens and decide myself what veggies to eat them with and when.

The diet soda is optional, as are other things here. I'm diabetic too...those fruit days don't hurt. 30 to 40 points up at most. So 102 isn't that bad. You learn by doing on this diet. You discover that you lose weight super fast and you ask yourself WHY? You figure it out. $40 bucks...not much to gain for this kind of knowledge and lose the weight that people WANT to lose. You THINK the fruit is a weight gainer? NOT! Every single day you lose a pound or more...it's amazing.

MoneyGal wrote: Carbonman, But I wonder if you are implying that exercise alone is sufficient to help "people in general" (not just you) lose weight. Your evidence is as compelling, I think, as mine: and mine shows a very different outcome.

I'm not implying anything. I just let you know my story.
I did adjust my eating habits. I still let myself have a BigMac or
a bacon cheese burger, but not everyday. All things in moderation.
I am aware of my diet and make an effort to eat healthy......
but I don't make myself crazy over it.
If I could not ride my bike, I would have to make some very uncomfortable
changes in my diet, because w/out the bike, I would be back to 200# in no time.

Weight loss is just as subjective as cpap therapy.
Every individual is going to have to find what works for them.
Look at just the weight loss theories that have been presented here.
If you want my suggestion for a nutrition plan:
http://cyclo-core.com/FUEL/nutritionplan.html
It guides you through a six week cycle, almost hour by hour.
I have used this and it does work.
I am not associated w/Cyclo-Core, other than I use the
Cyclo-Core and Cyclo-Zen exercise programs and have for years.
They work very well, also.

My weight loss book would be short....
eat less, exercise more.

Worked very well for me.
That's all I'm saying.

sagesteve wrote:The diet soda is optional, as are other things here. I'm diabetic too...those fruit days don't hurt. 30 to 40 points up at most. So 102 isn't that bad. You learn by doing on this diet. You discover that you lose weight super fast and you ask yourself WHY? You figure it out. $40 bucks...not much to gain for this kind of knowledge and lose the weight that people WANT to lose. You THINK the fruit is a weight gainer? NOT! Every single day you lose a pound or more...it's amazing.

Fruit, is it really that magical?

You are fooling yourself using that glucose meter for fruit. It raises insulin w/o raising glucose leading to insulin resistance.

Also, low-carb knowledge can be had for free ... unless you just feel compelled to pay for it. However, if anyone does have an unbearable urge to pay someone, PM for donation instructions.