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First night of cpap I got my face washed frequently.......and so spent the night adjusting the humidifer. It gave me something to do, since I wasn't sleeping with this new contraption wrapped around my face anyway.......

So I read this board........

The second night, I moved the machine onto to a little stool, off of the floor..........to no avail

So I read this board and studied all of the "experts" information......

The third night, I kept a loop of the hose down low (in an effort to contain the condensation) and looped the hose over the headboard......to no avail

So I read this board........studied, and asked lots of questions........

The fourth night, I kept the hose under the covers with me......strange experience after sleeping alone so long.........but to no avail

So I read this board......studied, and aked lots of questions.......and searched further through the back pages.......

The fifth night, I put a hose cover on the hose........to no avail

So I read this board........studied, and asked lots of questions, searched further through the back pages, and started researching other boards...thinking that despite my initial positive attitude, it might be easier to give up sleeping....

By the end of the first week, I ordered an Aussie heated hose..........

and it's ended the rainout. I love the thing!

More importantly, I love having my energy and positive attitude towards life back!

I wouldn't worry about it until it happens. I'm also in the MW and I have never had the problem. We keep the nighttime temp. at 65 an I have my humidifier set at 2-3.

As LSAT said, it may never happen for you.

For other readers, I'll mention that if I were having rainout, I'd try the simplest solutions first -- probably in this order:

1. Turn down the humidifier's heat adjustment unless I needed/wanted the amount of humidification I was getting.

2. Hang the hose so that any condensation is more likely to drop back down into the humidifier.
Doesn't have to be a commercially sold hose hanger. There are plenty of inexpensive ways to elevate the air hose:

LINKS to Hose hangers and methods of managing the air hose
viewtopic.php?t=10640

3. Cover the hose to keep the humidified air passing inside it from cooling off as quickly on that long 6 foot journey to me.
There are commercially sold covers, or if you're creative, you can make your own cover. Some people lay the air hose in bed with them to keep it warm, but I want it completely out of my way.

4. Get the Aussie heated hose or Repti cable (yes, either of those are usually a "for sure" solution):

LINKS to discussions about the Aussie heated hose - to prevent rainout
viewtopic.php?t=5305

I live in the South. I use solutions 2, 3, and 4.

I think it depends...on your room temperature, room humidity, and your cpap humidity setting. There are several threads on the science of this, but I just keep experimenting. And, you may not have hose rain out, but still get some condensation in your mask. Yucky.

I have The Hozer Levitation System, and like it alot. It keeps the hose out of your way, and moves with you when changing positions.

Several people here have made hose covers, by wrapping a scarf around and securing with pony tail scrunchies, or sewing, knitting or crocheting one.

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And yet another home-made solution -

http://picasaweb.google.com/macmermaid/ ... tr-oKmX-AE#

My husband is ecstatic about this hose hanger. I got the idea of using the PVC pipe from a few examples on this forum. I got the idea of using the key chain leash from the cozy hoze boss, which has two of the keychain leash things, but attaches to the wall.

This one is similar to the others I've seen here, but I attached a long arm and placed it so the long arm comes out from behind the headboard and can be pivoted. It was about $20 of PVC pipe, $14 for the keychain leash, and two velcro straps. I would've just ordered the hozer, but we wanted something fast and now it works so well, my husband doesn't care to try out the Hozer.

I did buy the cozyhoze boss so he can travel with it -- so we'll se how it works on his next business trip.

BTW, we also covered the hose and we run a space heater in the room at night. It gets into the 50s at night which isn't that cold. But he still can't have the humidifier as high as he wants it to prevent dry mouth, so I have ordered a reptile cable AND the Aussie Heated hose. The reptile cable will come first so we can test it out and then compare to the Aussie hose.

It seems the hose hanger is most useful for him because it allows him to move around easily and not jar the mask. But it doesn't seem to do much at all for the rainout. Maybe in the summer the hose hanger will work fine by itself.

Secret, I use a hose cover and a hose holder or lifter what ever you want to call it. I like the hose held up by the one I have since it will turn side to side when I turn, roll or move, then my mask will stay put and not move on my face.
The hose cover helps with rainout and prevents the hose from fitting something and causing the machine to record it as snoring. The hose being pulled over an edge or something else stiff like that can make a noise that the machine will record as snoring. The hose cover I have has a zipper on it so it's really easy to take on and off for cleaning the hose.

How did you do getting your equipment.?

Gerry

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I have two that I use. The first one I use at the firehouse because I have to take it apart and put it away after each nights use. This one is also great for traveling because it folds up into a small package and goes into a small pouch that is about 8 inches high, 5 inches wide and about a half inch thick. I like this one because it moves around with me some where the other one doesn't I seem to move around more when sleeping in a hotel or someplace new.
This one is called the hose lift system by flexible technologies.
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/flexib ... -lift.html

The othere one I use at home is called the hose buddy by BRO-GHO. This one is nice in that it has a hook on the end to hang your mask. It does take some time to get used to it and adjust it. Just don't sit up and try to walk away with your mask on as it will pull the mask off your face or the hose off the mask. This company does make a smaller travel unit, but they didn't have it when I got my travel unit so I can't vouch for it. I do know the travel one does not have the hook on the end to hold your mask when not in use.
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/HoseBu ... ystem.html

Both of these have held up for me so far as I have had them for over a year. I didn't think the hose lift one would last a year by looking at it and holding it, but it has proven me wrong.


Gerry

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I do not have a headboard on my bed and haven't noticed a difference using the portable hose lifter with or without a headboard. I have to readjust my mattress a few times a week also and havne't had any problems with the hose holder not working. As far as changing your behavior, I didn't change mine other than taking the mask off before sitting up completely in bed. You can adjust how much hose is free to move with the unit that stays at home. The home one has velcro that holds the hose and you can adjust the amount of hose that is by the machine side and by the mask side. I have mine adjusted so that that their is extra. When I turn from one side to the other I still have plenty and can move left or right in bed, being able to move from the edge of the bed to more than half way across the bed.

Once you get your machine and get all the little things worked out and begin sleeping, you won't be moving too much just sleeping.

As far as the travel hose lifter, that one does hold the hose with velcro as the other one does. This one has a loop that the hose rests in to hold it up off your bed. It does allow the hose to move back and forth some so if you sit up to get out of bed it won't really pull that much it will allow some hose from the machine side to come to the mask side. But it still works great for me.

Gerry

The Aussie heated hose is the ultimate fix for rainout. Love mine!

I know a few people who have a heated hose. I however can't stand the warm air. I have gotten up at night and actually changed the water in my humidifier chamber with cold water.

Gerry

After several false starts with various products, last week I finally ordered an Aussie hose.
it should arrive here any day. And with it, I hope, will be the end to my rainout problem.