Physological impact

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Re: Physological impact

Post by jnk » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:40 pm

mars wrote:
Caring Compassionate therapist wrote:Can anyone give our DME advise on physological impact for "newbees'. My follow up evalution from my patient states I didn't address this!!!
Signed; Caring, Compassionate therapist!


Hi All

When I first read the above I said to myself, Mars, better leave this alone, because if you respond you are going to get into trouble. But here I am.

Presentation is all! Well, maybe not all, but it is important. Emotional content can overide presentation, and even be more understandable. Maybe "Caring, Compassionate therapist" is genuine, maybe not. Would I ever go to someone who writes as above and signs themselves "Caring, Compassionate therapist"?

No.

Why not.

I think a professional therapist wanted the information requested would read the posts, and get their answers that way.
I think a professional therapist would be asking his client what he (the therapist) needed to do better.
I think a professional therapist would pay more attention to his or her presentation, and therefore allow everybody to concentrate on his or her message, without the distractions we have seen in this thread.

So I will not be responding to this post, and will keep myself out of trouble.

cheers

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Re: Physological impact

Post by preemiern » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:30 pm

klockemy wrote:Emotional tenor? How does one do that on electronic communications? I can say "you're a jerk", and you can't tell my demeanor. Only if I "you're a jerk " or "YOU'RE A JERK " can you really tell. Just because I don't cry on everyone's shoulder, does it mean that I am an @--hole.

If they can't do their job efficiently, then they should. How do you like calling customer support and get someone you can't understand?

Heaven forbid that I mention mispelling on this forum for the fear of being drug into the town square and flogged with cpap hoses......It was merely a point of debate. My entire thought didn't completely revolve around the aforementioned words.....there was more to it than this. If you feel that I am bashing this poor therapist/DME/impersonator, then I am sincerely sorry to all those offended; however, like you, I am entitled to an opinion so don't give me the third degree for expressing it. If you want someone else to yell at, search the forum for Apria haters and give them a go. Here's a start... viewtopic/t42555/Apria-Strikes-again.html
Looks like you need to get your own writing straight before you go attacking others...you've left out words, and screwed up your own punctuation...kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.
Also you should have said "dragged into the town square"...not "drug"...that is the proper form of the word.
Heck...you even misspelled "misspelling"!!!!!
This is not a forum for attacking others based on their writing ability, and I'm not really attacking your writing, just pointing out that we are all capable of not using correct grammer, etc....and that's ok. This is a forum about CPAP and sleep apnea, not a forum for writers.
We want everyone who needs help with sleep issues to feel free to come here, and I don't appreciate folks being attacked based on their ability to spell or write. That therapist is here looking for answers on how to make therapy more tolerable and successful for patients who would otherwise die without it. Give him/her credit for that.

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Re: Physological impact

Post by ozij » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:30 pm

Mars, my response (and non-response) to the OP was the same as yours...
klockemy wrote: Emotional tenor? How does one do that on electronic communications?
It's interpersonal, human to human communications based on the use of words. It's not "electronic communications". It's the use of language among human beings. We use words to express feelings.

Here is an example of words conveying feeling:
  • drug into the town square
    and flogged with cpap hoses....
    don't give me the third degree .
    If you want someone else to yell at,
Taken from the post of a poster who also anounced that:
Just because I don't cry on everyone's shoulder, does it mean that I am an @--hole.
(Question mark missing in the source.... )



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Re: Physological impact

Post by Hawthorne » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:15 am

If spelling, grammar, and typos are going to "count" when posting on the forum, I wonder what we are about.

Had some responders read past the spelling (possibly typo) at the beginning of this post and "read" the word in context, we might do what we want to do on this forum. Just in case some have forgotten, it's to help people with sleep apnea.

It seems to have even moved someone to start a poll on whether or not such things matter. I hope they mean, do these things matter on this forum?

I didn't count how many times I had to go back and retype here, since I am not a typist by any stretch of the imagination. I am adamant about proper spelling and proper grammar in certain situations. On this worldwide board, not so much!

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Re: Physological impact

Post by DoriC » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:42 am

Are we losing our focus here? Let's get back to the business of helping each other be successful on our journey with OSA. I wouldn't want any newbies reading this to be too intimidated to come here and "speak" freely about their problems. In fact, I'm going to have to go over this post again to make sure I haven't made any "mistakes".

BTW, Ozij, you misspelled "announced".

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Re: Physological impact

Post by jnk » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:44 am

I am thinking I am going to start making more spelling and grammar mistakes on purpose in this forum and then also leave the ones I make accidentally just the way I typed them. Maybe if we all do that, it will make others feel more comfortable posting. Down with "good" spelling and "good" grammar!

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Re: Physological impact

Post by ozij » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:46 am

DoriC wrote:Are we losing our focus here? Let's get back to the business of helping each other be successful on our journey with OSA. I wouldn't want any newbies reading this to be too intimidated to come here and "speak" freely about their problems. In fact, I'm going to have to go over this post again to make sure I haven't made any "mistakes".

BTW, Ozij, you misspelled "announced".
I think, Dori, you will find me the chief misspeller on the forum....

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Re: Physological impact

Post by klockemy » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:47 am

preemiern wrote:
klockemy wrote:Emotional tenor? How does one do that on electronic communications? I can say "you're a jerk", and you can't tell my demeanor. Only if I "you're a jerk " or "YOU'RE A JERK " can you really tell. Just because I don't cry on everyone's shoulder, does it mean that I am an @--hole.

If they can't do their job efficiently, then they should. How do you like calling customer support and get someone you can't understand?

Heaven forbid that I mention mispelling on this forum for the fear of being drug into the town square and flogged with cpap hoses......It was merely a point of debate. My entire thought didn't completely revolve around the aforementioned words.....there was more to it than this. If you feel that I am bashing this poor therapist/DME/impersonator, then I am sincerely sorry to all those offended; however, like you, I am entitled to an opinion so don't give me the third degree for expressing it. If you want someone else to yell at, search the forum for Apria haters and give them a go. Here's a start... viewtopic/t42555/Apria-Strikes-again.html
Looks like you need to get your own writing straight before you go attacking others...you've left out words, and screwed up your own punctuation...kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.
Also you should have said "dragged into the town square"...not "drug"...that is the proper form of the word.
Heck...you even misspelled "misspelling"!!!!!
This is not a forum for attacking others based on their writing ability, and I'm not really attacking your writing, just pointing out that we are all capable of not using correct grammer, etc....and that's ok. This is a forum about CPAP and sleep apnea, not a forum for writers.
We want everyone who needs help with sleep issues to feel free to come here, and I don't appreciate folks being attacked based on their ability to spell or write. That therapist is here looking for answers on how to make therapy more tolerable and successful for patients who would otherwise die without it. Give him/her credit for that.

Cindy
Besides the fact that almost your entire post was contradictory, I never professed to be a professional speller, nor does my job require it. I don't know why everyone is getting hung up on the spelling aspect. It was one point of my statement that has been completely blow out of proportion. If you guys want to linger on it, then go for it. I am done trying to defend myself. It's sad to see, what I thought was nice people, be so narrow minded and get hung up on one part of the big picture. As far as sleep apnea goes, I understand that is why we are all here and I was trying to do the same, but because I didn't phrase something in a way that you like doesn't mean that you can ream me for it. You don't see me overanalyzing your posts, taking parts out of context and making you look like and overall POS because I don't agree with something you say. "Uh oh, Ozij said the word "Chief" that means she is making fun of Native Americans, she hates Native Americans" Quite naïve, huh? If you want to play spelling games, go here http://www.m-w.com if you want to continue what you are doing and learn more about it before accusing someone of it, go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrite ; otherwise, read the WHOLE thing, take it for what it's worth and move on. You have already beat this dead horse enough.

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Re: Physological impact

Post by DreamStalker » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:02 am

klockemy wrote: Besides the fact that almost your entire post was contradictory, I never professed to be a professional speller, nor does my job require it. I don't know why everyone is getting hung up on the spelling aspect. It was one point of my statement that has been completely blow out of proportion. If you guys want to linger on it, then go for it. I am done trying to defend myself. It's sad to see, what I thought was nice people, be so narrow minded and get hung up on one part of the big picture. As far as sleep apnea goes, I understand that is why we are all here and I was trying to do the same, but because I didn't phrase something in a way that you like doesn't mean that you can ream me for it. You don't see me overanalyzing your posts, taking parts out of context and making you look like and overall POS because I don't agree with something you say. "Uh oh, Ozij said the word "Chief" that means she is making fun of Native Americans, she hates Native Americans" Quite naïve, huh? If you want to play spelling games, go here http://www.m-w.com if you want to continue what you are doing and learn more about it before accusing someone of it, go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrite ; otherwise, read the WHOLE thing, take it for what it's worth and move on. You have already beat this dead horse enough.
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Re: Physological impact

Post by klockemy » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:06 am

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Re: Physological impact

Post by Wulfman » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:13 am

Caring Compassionate therapist wrote:Can anyone give our DME advise on physological impact for "newbees'. My follow up evalution from my patient states I didn't address this!!!
Signed; Caring, Compassionate therapist!
I've been intrigued about something in the original post that doesn't seem to have been mentioned or discussed....... (yet)
How many patients get to evaluate their "therapists" or other medical professionals (or their therapy process)?
I noticed the word "with" wasn't used.....but "from" was, (apparently) indicating that the patient had some sort of complaint.

Maybe I'm dissecting this too much, but I've been wondering about it.

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Re: Physological impact

Post by DreamStalker » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:16 am

Wulfman wrote:
Caring Compassionate therapist wrote:Can anyone give our DME advise on physological impact for "newbees'. My follow up evalution from my patient states I didn't address this!!!
Signed; Caring, Compassionate therapist!
I've been intrigued about something in the original post that doesn't seem to have been mentioned or discussed....... (yet)
How many patients get to evaluate their "therapists" or other medical professionals (or their therapy process)?
I noticed the word "with" wasn't used.....but "from" was, (apparently) indicating that the patient had some sort of complaint.

Maybe I'm dissecting this too much, but I've been wondering about it.

Den
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Re: Physological impact

Post by Wulfman » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:24 am

DreamStalker wrote:
Wulfman wrote:
Caring Compassionate therapist wrote:Can anyone give our DME advise on physological impact for "newbees'. My follow up evalution from my patient states I didn't address this!!!
Signed; Caring, Compassionate therapist!
I've been intrigued about something in the original post that doesn't seem to have been mentioned or discussed....... (yet)
How many patients get to evaluate their "therapists" or other medical professionals (or their therapy process)?
I noticed the word "with" wasn't used.....but "from" was, (apparently) indicating that the patient had some sort of complaint.

Maybe I'm dissecting this too much, but I've been wondering about it.

Den
Be careful Den ... you may be inciting conflict on this here forum.

Wouldn't be the FIRST time......

Sometimes I'm the incitor and sometimes the incitee.

(yeah, I know, they're misspelled....my spellchecker told me so)


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Re: Physological impact

Post by jnk » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:25 am

Wulfman wrote:
Caring Compassionate therapist wrote:Can anyone give our DME advise on physological impact for "newbees'. My follow up evalution from my patient states I didn't address this!!!
Signed; Caring, Compassionate therapist!
I've been intrigued about something in the original post that doesn't seem to have been mentioned or discussed....... (yet)
How many patients get to evaluate their "therapists" or other medical professionals (or their therapy process)?
I noticed the word "with" wasn't used.....but "from" was, (apparently) indicating that the patient had some sort of complaint.

Maybe I'm dissecting this too much, but I've been wondering about it.

Den
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Re: Physological impact

Post by mars » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:32 am

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