Physological impact

Ozij,

If you had read my post more closely and not focused on the spelling aspect so much, you would have seen that the comment was directed at the therapist for the DME. Dyslexia doesn't mean that they don't have any common sense; however, the OP was asking for advice for the DME. The DME needs common sense and compassion. That's not an attack, that is an objective observation. As far as "CPAP users are people too", you took it out of context. Including my previous statement with that one, they should stop treating us sheep headed to slaughter in order to exploit our insurance plans. While I appreciate your comments, do consider the whole of my statement and not focus on one point. As for the basis of my statement, would you rather your doctor give you 20cc's of morphine or misread/write the prescription and give 200 cc's of morphine? A small slip can make a major difference. Speaking of being accurate, maybe you should do the same as I never told the OP that they can't post here.

ozij wrote:

klockemy wrote:Want advice for your DME? First, have them dump you and find a therapist who can spell 'psychological/physiological' and 'advice' first, then they have a starting point to move forward with. Personally, if I don't have a therapist who can spell or right correctly, what confidence do I have in the treatment?

Actually, quit a bit of confidence because:

• Disliexia does not mean a person lacks compassion, nor does it mean a person has no right to ask for help on this forum, nor nor does it mean they can't be good therapists.
• Furthermore, the ability to spell properly does not mean a person is capable in anything but proper spelling (with or withou the help of a spellchecker) nor does it mean they are honest and will give you the support or therapy you need. Perfect speller can be perfect cheats.

Third, give them some common sense and some compassion.

People who can't spell well have as much a right to common sense and compassion as do any other honest, well meaning people.

CPAP users are people too.

That's a two street, you know. So are people who work for DME and come here to post. The person posting has done you personally no wrong, yet you are attacking him or her. Which is not a very good way of helping them support their clients.

ozij,

I would just like to say 'AMEN,' since you live too far away for me to hug.

jeff

klockemy wrote:Want advice for your DME? First, have them dump you and find a therapist who can spell 'psychological/physiological' and 'advice' first, then they have a starting point to move forward with

That's how your message to the OP, statred, klockemy. And that sets the emotional tenor of the whole message.

Speaking of being accurate, maybe you should do the same as I never told the OP that they can't post here.

That's right, you told them they should by dumped from their job.

jeff - you are one of the most hug deserving - and I daresay hugable people on the forum!

O.

klockemy wrote:

Caring Compassionate therapist wrote:Can anyone give our DME advise on physological impact for "newbees'. My follow up evalution from my patient states I didn't address this!!!
Signed; Caring, Compassionate therapist!

Want advice for your DME? First, have them dump you and find a therapist who can spell 'psychological/physiological' and 'advice' first, then they have a starting point to move forward with. Personally, if I don't have a therapist who can spell or write correctly, what confidence do I have in the treatment?

not another spell check police ...

Emotional tenor? How does one do that on electronic communications? I can say "you're a jerk", and you can't tell my demeanor. Only if I "you're a jerk " or "YOU'RE A JERK " can you really tell. Just because I don't cry on everyone's shoulder, does it mean that I am an @--hole.

If they can't do their job efficiently, then they should. How do you like calling customer support and get someone you can't understand?

Heaven forbid that I mention mispelling on this forum for the fear of being drug into the town square and flogged with cpap hoses......It was merely a point of debate. My entire thought didn't completely revolve around the aforementioned words.....there was more to it than this. If you feel that I am bashing this poor therapist/DME/impersonator, then I am sincerely sorry to all those offended; however, like you, I am entitled to an opinion so don't give me the third degree for expressing it. If you want someone else to yell at, search the forum for Apria haters and give them a go. Here's a start... viewtopic/t42555/Apria-Strikes-again.html

klockemy wrote:Ozij,

If you had read my post more closely and not focused on the spelling aspect so much, you would have seen that the comment was directed at the therapist for the DME. Dyslexia doesn't mean that they don't have any common sense; however, the OP was asking for advice for the DME. The DME needs common sense and compassion. That's not an attack, that is an objective observation. As far as "CPAP users are people too", you took it out of context. Including my previous statement with that one, they should stop treating us sheep headed to slaughter in order to exploit our insurance plans. While I appreciate your comments, do consider the whole of my statement and not focus on one point. As for the basis of my statement, would you rather your doctor give you 20cc's of morphine or misread/write the prescription and give 200 cc's of morphine? A small slip can make a major difference. Speaking of being accurate, maybe you should do the same as I never told the OP that they can't post here.

klockemy,

Speaking only for myself, I tend to be protective of the spelling-challenged, since I am one of them. But I tease people about typos sometimes, too, and I've been teased. So I get it that you didn't set out to attack. The thing is, for me, that I constantly worry about the lurkers in the wings who may not be all that educated, or who just may not spell well, or who speak English as a second, third, or more distant language, and are therefore hesitant to post the question that just might save their life. Maybe I am being overly dramatic. But the nature of this board in helping the ones already abused by the medical system is such that many of us, I think, try, at least, not to say anything that might discourage the timid from posting. I think it may have been in that spirit that ozij "spoke up." Nothing personal. Just a sort of damage control for any shy lurkers who might be put off by our banter if they are afraid of being belittled.

I hope you take that explanation, which may be way off base, in the spirit I intend, since you post some good stuff. You have a great self-deprecating sense of humor, and I look forward to more of your posts.

jeff

Ah, don't take it personally, klockemy...

It's just that many of us who sat through all the Star Wars movies don't remember seeing spelling inflexibility like that down at the Jedi training camps.

-SWS wrote:Ah, don't take it personally, klockemy...

It's just that many of us who sat through all the Star Wars movies don't remember seeing spelling inflexibility like that down at the Jedi training camps.

Nah, they don't teach like they used to.

Funny thing is....I really am not that big into star wars, just thought the animated avatar looked neat. If I were to actually put one that represented me, it would be a Linux penguin.

klockemy wrote:..If I were to actually put one that represented me, it would be a Linux penguin.

Oh! ...Well that's an altogether different deal.

Spelling down at all the Linux Penguin training camps I know is HUGELY important. Can't even graduate without getting it just right.

Carry on...

-SWS wrote:

klockemy wrote:..If I were to actually put one that represented me, it would be a Linux penguin.

Oh! ...Well that's an altogether different deal.

Spelling down at all the Linux Penguin training camps I know is HUGELY important. Can't even graduate without getting it just right.

Carry on...

Sounds about right.

I've been wondering if the original poster (OP) has been peeking into this thread they started......

I think we really need to cut him/her some slack. Give 'em an "A for effort" for at least finding this forum and asking.


Den

Wulfman wrote:I've been wondering if the original poster (OP) has been peeking into this thread they started......

I think we really need to cut him/her some slack. Give 'em an "A for effort" for at least finding this forum and asking.


Den

I'll concede and agree. 'A' for effort to the OP.

klockemy wrote:

Wulfman wrote:I've been wondering if the original poster (OP) has been peeking into this thread they started......

I think we really need to cut him/her some slack. Give 'em an "A for effort" for at least finding this forum and asking.


Den

I'll concede and agree. 'A' for effort to the OP.

I agree...but: Don't we expect everyone who arrives at the forum to read first, try to find answers, and get a feel for the community? (If not, why are so many newbies told to read "our collected wisdom" and post their equipment setup?) Don't we expect newbies to introduce themselves before they begin demanding help? Why would this be different for the OP? Because an RT deigns to come down from on high and ask our humble forum for advice? Sorry, I know I sound crabby, but I can't help feeling as if the poster's note tells me at least a little something about her/his ability to assess her/his impact on someone.

Catnap wrote:Don't we expect everyone who arrives at the forum to read first, try to find answers, and get a feel for the community? (If not, why are so many newbies told to read "our collected wisdom" and post their equipment setup?)

I don't expect it, but I might suggest they do those things, since that would be in their own best interests.

Catnap wrote:Don't we expect newbies to introduce themselves before they begin demanding help?

I don't, myself, but . . . by the way, my name is Jeff, and I'm pleased to meet you, Catnap. How do you do? . . . I think forums are designed to be places anyone can come to and "demand" help, in a sense. The Web is too new, in my opinion, to have a well defined international etiquette, so until it does, I choose to hope for the best until I'm forced to expect the worst with any individual poster. I am constantly amazed by the quality of interaction on this board.

Catnap wrote:I know I sound crabby,

I don't think so. I think you make good points. That's what motivated me to respond.

Caring Compassionate therapist wrote:Can anyone give our DME advise on physological impact for "newbees'. My follow up evalution from my patient states I didn't address this!!!
Signed; Caring, Compassionate therapist!

Hi All

When I first read the above I said to myself, Mars, better leave this alone, because if you respond you are going to get into trouble. But here I am.

Presentation is all! Well, maybe not all, but it is important. Emotional content can overide presentation, and even be more understandable. Maybe "Caring, Compassionate therapist" is genuine, maybe not. Would I ever go to someone who writes as above and signs themselves "Caring, Compassionate therapist"?

No.

Why not.

I think a professional therapist who wanted the information requested would read the posts, and get their answers that way.
I think a professional therapist would be asking his or her client what he or she (the therapist) needed to do better.
I think a professional therapist would pay more attention to her or his presentation, and therefore allow everybody to concentrate on her or his message, without the distractions we have seen in this thread.

So I will not be responding to this post, and will keep myself out of trouble.

cheers

Mars