We already know how Rooster feels about this idea ... what say others?ALBANY, New York (CNN) -- Like many New Yorkers, I remember a time when nearly everyone smoked. In 1950, Collier's reported that more than three-quarters of adult men smoked. This epidemic had a devastating and long-lasting impact on public health.
Today, we find ourselves in the midst of a new public health epidemic: childhood obesity.
What smoking was to my parents' generation, obesity is to my children's generation. Nearly one out of every four New Yorkers under the age of 18 is obese. In many high-poverty areas, the rate is closer to one out of three.
That is why, in the state budget I presented last Tuesday, I proposed a tax on sugared beverages like soda. Research has demonstrated that soft-drink consumption is one of the main drivers of childhood obesity.
For example, a study by Harvard researchers found that each additional 12-ounce soft drink consumed per day increases the risk of a child becoming obese by 60 percent. For adults, the association is similar.
If we are to succeed in reducing childhood obesity, we must reduce consumption of sugared beverages. That is the purpose of our proposed tax. We estimate that an 18 percent tax will reduce consumption by five percent.
Our tax would apply only to sugared drinks -- including fruit drinks that are less than 70 percent juice -- that are nondiet. The $404 million this tax would raise next year will go toward funding public health programs, including obesity prevention programs, across New York state.
The surgeon general estimates that obesity was associated with 112,000 deaths in the United States every year. Here in New York state, we spend almost $6.1 billion on health care related to adult obesity -- the second-highest level of spending in the nation.
Last year, legitimate concerns about links between consumption of fast food and the prevalence of heart disease prompted New York City to ban the use of trans fats in restaurant food.
No one can deny the urgency of reducing the rate of obesity, including childhood obesity. Obesity causes serious health problems like type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure and high cholesterol. It puts children at much greater risk for life-threatening conditions such as cardiovascular disease and cancer.
We must never stigmatize children who are overweight or obese. Yet, for the sake of our children's health, we have an obligation to address this crisis. I believe we can ultimately curb the obesity epidemic the same way we curbed smoking: through smart public policy.
In recent decades, anti-smoking campaigns have raised awareness. Smoking bans have been enacted and enforced. And, perhaps most importantly, we have raised the price of cigarettes.
In June, New York state raised the state cigarette tax an additional $1.25. According to the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, this increase alone will prevent more than 243,000 kids from smoking, save more than 37,000 lives and produce more than $5 billion in health care savings.
These taxes may be unpopular, but their benefits are undeniable. Last month, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that, for the first time in generations, fewer than 20 percent of Americans smoked. Lung cancer rates have finally begun to decline. As a result, we are all healthier.
Just as the cigarette tax has helped reduce the number of smokers and smoking-related deaths, a tax on highly caloric, non-nutritional beverages can help reduce the prevalence of obesity.
To address the obesity crisis, we need more than just a surcharge on soda. We need to take junk food out of our schools. We need to encourage our children to exercise more. And we need to increase the availability of healthy food in underserved communities.
But to make serious progress in this effort, we need to reduce the consumption of high-calorie drinks like nondiet soda among children and adults.
I understand that New Yorkers may not like paying a surcharge for their favorite drinks. But surely it's a small price to pay for our children's health.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of David Paterson.
Poll... curious about how many CPAP users smoke.
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I, for one, am totally offended by that comment's blatant lack of understanding for those of us with aerophagia-related tourettisms.DreamStalker wrote: . . . BTW - I am considerate and go out of my way not fart or burp in close proximity to other people and I expect the same in return . . .
Not really. Actually, I now have a completely different impression of you, DreamStalker!
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I know what you mean ... the smell of cooking or cooked eggs makes me vomit. <snip>
The example is uhhhh ... different because people that vomit at the smell of flame touched meat or cooked eggs are not just a minority, but a very very small (and weird) minority. *birdshell's emphasis
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My oh my! My idea to start this poll has certainly lead to some lively debate. I think this has got to be one of the most read threads in the forum. Can I have my free hose cover now????
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Personally, I think it is just another excuse for another revenue stream for the government. Raising the price of cigarrettes did not stop people from smoking, heck, we all kept smoking while we complained about the price. What has cut smoking was the societal pressure to not smoke. My husband and I did not quit smoking because of price, we quit because he almost died from it.DreamStalker wrote: I understand that New Yorkers may not like paying a surcharge for their favorite drinks. But surely it's a small price to pay for our children's health.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of David Paterson.
We already know how Rooster feels about this idea ... what say others?
If they want to cut childhood obesity, take the soft drink and candy machines out of the schools and the junk food out of the school lunch programs. Put PE back into the schools and teach kids how to exercise and play games that require fannies off couches....
Just my 2 cents worth.
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I don't think your from Canada...they tax the heck out of cigarettes both federally and provincially. They also have banned tobacco advertising for the most part, and have made stores put them in shelving out of view at least in the Province of Alberta. Also, stores that have pharmacies can no longer sell cigarettes again in Alberta....result smoking is becoming less acceptable and noticeably less smokers. Oh and you can't smoke in bars and restaurants in most provinces in Canada!Debjax wrote:Personally, I think it is just another excuse for another revenue stream for the government. Raising the price of cigarrettes did not stop people from smoking, heck, we all kept smoking while we complained about the price. What has cut smoking was the societal pressure to not smoke. My husband and I did not quit smoking because of price, we quit because he almost died from it.DreamStalker wrote: I understand that New Yorkers may not like paying a surcharge for their favorite drinks. But surely it's a small price to pay for our children's health.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of David Paterson.
We already know how Rooster feels about this idea ... what say others?
If they want to cut childhood obesity, take the soft drink and candy machines out of the schools and the junk food out of the school lunch programs. Put PE back into the schools and teach kids how to exercise and play games that require fannies off couches....
Just my 2 cents worth.
There will always be smokers but in Canada the government is making every effort to make it difficult for you to smoke...did I tell you that if you want to own a firearm legally in Canada, you have to register it too!
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I don't think your from Canada...they tax the heck out of cigarettes both federally and provincially. They also have banned tobacco advertising for the most part, and have made stores put them in shelving out of view at least in the Province of Alberta. Also, stores that have pharmacies can no longer sell cigarettes again in Alberta....result smoking is becoming less acceptable and noticeably less smokers. Oh and you can't smoke in bars and restaurants in most provinces in Canada!
There will always be smokers but in Canada the government is making every effort to make it difficult for you to smoke...did I tell you that if you want to own a firearm legally in Canada, you have to register it too![/quote]
Nope, not from Canada, although I have been there on busines many times. They started taxing cigaretes here in the states pretty heavily a number of years ago. Price went from about 1.50 per pack to almost 4.00 within a year or so. We used to "hunt the sales" to buy them. Most states in the US have banned smoking in restaurants and other indoor public spaces. I still submit that it was not the taxes but the politically incorrectness of smoking that has cut it back here.
I don't think your from Canada...they tax the heck out of cigarettes both federally and provincially. They also have banned tobacco advertising for the most part, and have made stores put them in shelving out of view at least in the Province of Alberta. Also, stores that have pharmacies can no longer sell cigarettes again in Alberta....result smoking is becoming less acceptable and noticeably less smokers. Oh and you can't smoke in bars and restaurants in most provinces in Canada!
There will always be smokers but in Canada the government is making every effort to make it difficult for you to smoke...did I tell you that if you want to own a firearm legally in Canada, you have to register it too![/quote]
Nope, not from Canada, although I have been there on busines many times. They started taxing cigaretes here in the states pretty heavily a number of years ago. Price went from about 1.50 per pack to almost 4.00 within a year or so. We used to "hunt the sales" to buy them. Most states in the US have banned smoking in restaurants and other indoor public spaces. I still submit that it was not the taxes but the politically incorrectness of smoking that has cut it back here.
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The good new is that the nicotine craving will eventually dissipate. The bad news... well, you need to quit nicotine any way you can, it's a physically addicting drug.
I quit smoking cigarettes in 1982. I still consider myself a nicotine addict. This is one of the reasons I have managed to keep from using nicotine since then. In 1990 I finally stopped constantly desiring nicotine.
I quit smoking cigarettes in 1982. I still consider myself a nicotine addict. This is one of the reasons I have managed to keep from using nicotine since then. In 1990 I finally stopped constantly desiring nicotine.
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I spent years trying to quit smoking, tried everything from the patch to hypnosis, nothing worked. I always started again. Then my husband had his heart attack, and I realized that if I did not quit smoking, he would not quit and if he did not quit, he would die. I threw away a brand new pack, went into the hospital and to their outpatient pharmacy and purchased a box of the patch, since I knew I would need it when the nicotine withdrawl started. Three years later, I threw the box of patches away, unopened. I never had withdrawl the last time, and have not wanted or craved a cigarette since, matter of fact, cant' stand the thought of having one now. However, I would give almost anything for a spicy chicken breast from Popeyes..<grin>jamesj wrote:The good new is that the nicotine craving will eventually dissipate. The bad news... well, you need to quit nicotine any way you can, it's a physically addicting drug.
I quit smoking cigarettes in 1982. I still consider myself a nicotine addict. This is one of the reasons I have managed to keep from using nicotine since then. In 1990 I finally stopped constantly desiring nicotine.
The truth was, before hubby had his heart attack, I never truly wanted to quit, but was doing so because I was "supposed to". Once I had a motivation that was strong enough, it was cold turkey and it was the easiest thing I've ever done.
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I am a non-smoker, have never smoked, and hate the smell, and worse, the thought of inhaling smoke.
But, I have taught myself not to make judgements about people who smoke (or are overweight, especially as I would like to lose a few of those extras) If they want to smoke, then it's their problem; it's their health and their life. I would love every smoker to be more considerate, but the same applies to people who drive noisy cars, and let their dogs leave gifts on the footpath or in the park, and drop rubbish, etc etc. However we live in a community made up of lots of people with lots of different values, and we like to do things our way (I'm very happy to agree that my way is always right!!!!) so my view is that it is my responsibility to avoid situations I don't like, such as breathing smoke or stepping in dog eggs.
Now that I've made that connect, I find that inconsiderate behaviour doesn't bother me any more, I just shrug and move on. And I'm happy!!
So, lets remove the emotion from this issue, and treat as the genuine enquiry that was originally intended.
Cheers
K
But, I have taught myself not to make judgements about people who smoke (or are overweight, especially as I would like to lose a few of those extras) If they want to smoke, then it's their problem; it's their health and their life. I would love every smoker to be more considerate, but the same applies to people who drive noisy cars, and let their dogs leave gifts on the footpath or in the park, and drop rubbish, etc etc. However we live in a community made up of lots of people with lots of different values, and we like to do things our way (I'm very happy to agree that my way is always right!!!!) so my view is that it is my responsibility to avoid situations I don't like, such as breathing smoke or stepping in dog eggs.
Now that I've made that connect, I find that inconsiderate behaviour doesn't bother me any more, I just shrug and move on. And I'm happy!!
So, lets remove the emotion from this issue, and treat as the genuine enquiry that was originally intended.
Cheers
K
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I thought we had beat this horsey dead ...
The genuine inquiry score remains -
smokers 29
non-smokers 123
The genuine inquiry score remains -
smokers 29
non-smokers 123
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All issues have emotions--or they wouldn't be "issues," would they?kopoloff wrote:. . . remove the emotion from this issue . . .
I liked your post a lot, though, kopoloff.
Then again, maybe that's just because I have emotional issues.
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I am a victim of second hand smoke. Tom is allergic to it and we are both on oxygen 24/7 so there fore no smoking is allowed in our home. If you smoke you go outside and then come back in. Even in the winter time. I wish they would ban smoking in all public places here in Wisconsin.
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Hey All,
I am fortunate that I grew up around all non-smokers. Not everyone has had my same benefit. For those that are trying to quit don't give up it will be worth it in the end. I remember hearing several years ago that if you stop smoking your body has the ability to repair lung tissue. I swear our bodies are so amazing. We all struggle with addictions of some sort or another whether too much time on the computer, gambling, drugs, television watching, caffeine, etc, etc, etc. I try not to judge what other people's experiences/struggles are and am grateful if I do not have that struggle. I do hope that I will start losing weight with the CPAP. Pre-CPAP I was down to 200 lbs down from 211 then I went up to 207 and now I am down around 204. I am also not sleeping through the night with the CPAP yet. I have only been using it consistently for one week tonight. Hopefully, the weight will keep coming off as I keep exercising and the CPAP time keeps increasing.
Blessings wished to all and my hats off to everyone who came forward to confess their use of cigarettes, cigars, etc. You are very courageous and I admire that.
Maria
I am fortunate that I grew up around all non-smokers. Not everyone has had my same benefit. For those that are trying to quit don't give up it will be worth it in the end. I remember hearing several years ago that if you stop smoking your body has the ability to repair lung tissue. I swear our bodies are so amazing. We all struggle with addictions of some sort or another whether too much time on the computer, gambling, drugs, television watching, caffeine, etc, etc, etc. I try not to judge what other people's experiences/struggles are and am grateful if I do not have that struggle. I do hope that I will start losing weight with the CPAP. Pre-CPAP I was down to 200 lbs down from 211 then I went up to 207 and now I am down around 204. I am also not sleeping through the night with the CPAP yet. I have only been using it consistently for one week tonight. Hopefully, the weight will keep coming off as I keep exercising and the CPAP time keeps increasing.
Blessings wished to all and my hats off to everyone who came forward to confess their use of cigarettes, cigars, etc. You are very courageous and I admire that.
Maria